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Will the Tim Kelly trade go down as one of the worst ever ?
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Would you trade your current coach for Ross Lyon? LoL
Unless your name is Lachie Neale
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That is true
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The OP shot off way too early
No, it won't. Most teams playing in a hub have been awful, wait until next year to see what West Coast are really capable of.
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Depends what we end up with. West Coast has a proven commodity. Ablett for two first rounders looked like a pretty good deal for someone who was 100% gone until it turned out the players were Josh Caddy (who did pretty much nothing of note until he left Geelong) and Billie Smedts, who pretty much did nothing of note full stop. Ottens for two first rounders looked pretty good for Richmond too, but unfortunately for them those two first rounders combined to play well under 100 games in their AFL careers.
OP, check back in 5 years
Judd deal was the second worst deal in history - for Carlton.
C’mon mate. You’re a bloody bandit.
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Kelly's biggest strength as a mid is he's a goal kicker. That's what he needs to be doing or else he's just another midfielder.
On paper the picks given look to be a bit much for Kelly. 2 first rounders and some decent auxillary picks. The 2020 pick will be pretty revealing.
It will be far from the worst ever though
It will be far from the worst ever though
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If I had a choice between the picks or Kelly now I'd take Kelly. Of course, if that pick turns out to be top 5 that changes the equation a bit. It's a weird season but I wouldn't be writing off WCE, Col, or Rich just yet.
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Geelong gets Picks 14, 24, 37 and the Eagles’ future first-round pick
West Coast gets Tim Kelly, Pick 52 and the Cats’ future third-round pick
Pick 14: Became pick 16, Cooper Stephens. Wait and see what happens there.
Pick 24: Became pick 27, and in a deal the Eagles really couldn't imagine would happen the Suns traded their 2020 mid first round pick for that pick. Potentially great deal for the Cats but I don't think you blame the Eagles for that one.
Pick 37: Used as part of the Jenkins deal.
In general, pick 27 (post academy) and 37 for 52 and maybe 50 (future 3rd rounder) really isn't a huge advantage.
If the Eagles rally and make finals - Tim Kelly for 16, another pick outside the top 10 in an academy and covid impacted draft and a downgrade of later picks is usually going to work out better for the team getting the gun player.
I was surprised the Cats didn't ask for the Eagles to do the dirty work rounding the picks up in a higher pick, but the deal they made with the Suns has now achieved a lot of that. And hey - the reason the Eagles list was in such a strong position to give up a lot for one player was because they made their own great deal with the Suns a few years ago.
Geelong are in a strong position, but as long as the Eagles make finals they won't be too upset.
West Coast gets Tim Kelly, Pick 52 and the Cats’ future third-round pick
Pick 14: Became pick 16, Cooper Stephens. Wait and see what happens there.
Pick 24: Became pick 27, and in a deal the Eagles really couldn't imagine would happen the Suns traded their 2020 mid first round pick for that pick. Potentially great deal for the Cats but I don't think you blame the Eagles for that one.
Pick 37: Used as part of the Jenkins deal.
In general, pick 27 (post academy) and 37 for 52 and maybe 50 (future 3rd rounder) really isn't a huge advantage.
If the Eagles rally and make finals - Tim Kelly for 16, another pick outside the top 10 in an academy and covid impacted draft and a downgrade of later picks is usually going to work out better for the team getting the gun player.
I was surprised the Cats didn't ask for the Eagles to do the dirty work rounding the picks up in a higher pick, but the deal they made with the Suns has now achieved a lot of that. And hey - the reason the Eagles list was in such a strong position to give up a lot for one player was because they made their own great deal with the Suns a few years ago.
Geelong are in a strong position, but as long as the Eagles make finals they won't be too upset.
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Can't have been too bad. He signed a contract extension and is still best 22 years after the pickup.
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West Coast will climb up the ladder in the back half of this season and Kelly will click into gear. Too good not to.
No, what a terrible take.
At worst he is going to be a good AFL mid for the next 5+ years.
At worst he is going to be a good AFL mid for the next 5+ years.
Beams is the correct answer.
Two first round picks for a painter.
Two first round picks for a painter.
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Does gen-Z only know deals from the last 10 years?
Do we need to educate today's youngsters on the Croad/McPharlin deal?
Do we need to educate today's youngsters on the Croad/McPharlin deal?
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Put some specs on him & he'll almost look like Garth from Wayne's World.
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Not even the worst trade last year, Adelaide gave away Geenwood for peanuts which is worse then getting a genuine gun for a fair price
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Reckon there is a bit of s**t on the liver towards Kelly down eagles way.
Entitled and pampered.
Entitled and pampered.
