Preview 2015 Grand Final: Hawthorn v West Coast Eagles - Gunston IN, Hartung OUT

[Hodginator]

The Herald Sun's ranking of all players in order of importance to the game.
1. Kennedy
2. Mitchell
3. Hodge
4. Nic Nat
5. Priddis
6. Rough
7. Frawley
8. Shuey
9. McGovern
10. Rioli
11. Burger
12. Gunston
13. Gaff
14. Stratton
15. Lewis
16. Masten
17. LeCras
18. Breust
19. Smith
20. B. Hill
21. Wellingham
22. Shiels
23. Schofield
24. Hurn
25. Lake
26. Gibson
27. McEvoy
28. Darling
29. Cripps
30. Yeo
31. Birchall
32. Sheppard
33. Hutchings
34. Duryea
35. Butler
36. Suckling
37. Sinclair
38. J. Hill
39. Sheed
40. Hale
41. Puopolo
42. Ellis
43. Rosa
44. Schoenmakers

 

[macdaddio]

I think everyone is over rating the traveling time and extra game the Hawks had to play this final series.

QF Hawks took foot of peddle and didn't give 100%.
SF Hawks had a training run
PF Hawks had a nice warm up m
Our goal kicking almost at 100% but against the Weagle at maybe 60%.

This leads to a Hawks primed to give 100%.

Heat is no factor at all as Melbourne weather is no were near as humid and hot as in Perth in our hottest day

If we start well we will win...

 

[cryptor]

The Herald Sun's ranking of all players in order of importance to the game.
1. Kennedy
2. Mitchell
3. Hodge
4. Nic Nat
5. Priddis
6. Rough
7. Frawley
8. Shuey
9. McGovern
10. Rioli
11. Burger
12. Gunston
13. Gaff
14. Stratton
15. Lewis
16. Masten
17. LeCras
18. Breust
19. Smith
20. B. Hill
21. Wellingham
22. Shiels
23. Schofield
24. Hurn
25. Lake
26. Gibson
27. McEvoy
28. Darling
29. Cripps
30. Yeo
31. Birchall
32. Sheppard
33. Hutchings
34. Duryea
35. Butler
36. Suckling
37. Sinclair
38. J. Hill
39. Sheed
40. Hale
41. Puopolo
42. Ellis
43. Rosa
44. Schoenmakers

In b4 Schoe kicks a match winning bag...

 

[Brishawk]

That's what I said in my original post, but I also made point of asking how many times Clarko has changed the interchange bench to change the sub?

The sub person would be known to him and it will be one of the four on the bench. Even if there's a late out, it will be Hartung who's the sub. Why do you think Gunston is on the interchange?

Anything is possible but generally Clarko does a double bluff and does not make changes to the selected side. So yes likely it will come from the bench but I doubt Gunston will start on the bench if he does play.

 

[walhawk]

Yes they do as the 4 names on the interchange must start there, which means it's one of those four.

Btw, stop looking at the stat sheet. Puopolo is one of the most important forwards.

No. Can change until 90 mins b4 match.

 

[treefingers]

I was filthy on everyone tipping against us last year, but everyone tipping us is very unsettling

Not having a go at you directly but what is it with Hawthorn bigfooty posters and their obsession with what the media has to say about us? Who cares if they thought Freo were a chance against us in 2013? (Most pundits still tipped us). Who cares if most thought Sydney would win last year? And who cares if most think we will this week?

It has no bearing on the result, and most journos would have no more insight or knowledge then your average bigfooty poster.

 

[Steven Tyler]

Agree

That said the Cats led us at QT and HT

I doubt they will blow us away early, can definately see them tsking ascendency in the second half though

Hawks led the Cats at HT 51 to 48 in 2008

 

[Bumpswithagrin]

The Herald Sun's ranking of all players in order of importance to the game.
1. Kennedy
2. Mitchell
3. Hodge
4. Nic Nat
5. Priddis
6. Rough
7. Frawley
8. Shuey
9. McGovern
10. Rioli
11. Burger
12. Gunston
13. Gaff
14. Stratton
15. Lewis
16. Masten
17. LeCras
18. Breust
19. Smith
20. B. Hill
21. Wellingham
22. Shiels
23. Schofield
24. Hurn
25. Lake
26. Gibson
27. McEvoy
28. Darling
29. Cripps
30. Yeo
31. Birchall
32. Sheppard
33. Hutchings
34. Duryea
35. Butler
36. Suckling
37. Sinclair
38. J. Hill
39. Sheed
40. Hale
41. Puopolo
42. Ellis
43. Rosa
44. Schoenmakers

Schoey last?? Boo! There must be half a dozen West Coast players worse than him

 

[Hawkk]

The Herald Sun's ranking of all players in order of importance to the game.
1. Kennedy
2. Mitchell
3. Hodge
4. Nic Nat
5. Priddis
6. Rough
7. Frawley
8. Shuey
9. McGovern
10. Rioli
11. Burger
12. Gunston
13. Gaff
14. Stratton
15. Lewis
16. Masten
17. LeCras
18. Breust
19. Smith
20. B. Hill
21. Wellingham
22. Shiels
23. Schofield
24. Hurn
25. Lake
26. Gibson
27. McEvoy
28. Darling
29. Cripps
30. Yeo
31. Birchall
32. Sheppard
33. Hutchings
34. Duryea
35. Butler
36. Suckling
37. Sinclair
38. J. Hill
39. Sheed
40. Hale
41. Puopolo
42. Ellis
43. Rosa
44. Schoenmakers

Top 5 is 3-2 Eagles way
Top 10 is 5-5
Top 15 is 9-6 Hawks way
Top 22 is 12-10 Hawks way

Bottom 5 is 3-2 Eagles way
Bottom 10 is 7-3 Eagles way
Bottom 15 is 10-5 Eagles way
Bottom 22 is 12-10 Eagles way

Make of that what you will...

 

[Hawkk]

Hawks led the Cats at HT 51 to 48 in 2008

I stand corrected

Of the 4 GF's

Q1 3-1
Half Time 3-1
3QT 3-1
FT 3-1

 

[Main Man]

The Herald Sun's ranking of all players in order of importance to the game.
1. Kennedy
2. Mitchell
3. Hodge
4. Nic Nat
5. Priddis
6. Rough
7. Frawley
8. Shuey
9. McGovern
10. Rioli
11. Burger
12. Gunston
13. Gaff
14. Stratton
15. Lewis
16. Masten
17. LeCras
18. Breust
19. Smith
20. B. Hill
21. Wellingham
22. Shiels
23. Schofield
24. Hurn
25. Lake
26. Gibson
27. McEvoy
28. Darling
29. Cripps
30. Yeo
31. Birchall
32. Sheppard
33. Hutchings
34. Duryea
35. Butler
36. Suckling
37. Sinclair
38. J. Hill
39. Sheed
40. Hale
41. Puopolo
42. Ellis
43. Rosa
44. Schoenmakers

Birchall at 31? They really are a pack of raving lunatics in at the HS, he is one of our most important players, shut him down and you go a long way to shutting Hawthorn down.

I really don't know how some of these guys have a job.

 

[Brishawk]

Schoey last?? Boo! There must be half a dozen West Coast players worse than him

I reckon Hale is the luckiest man in football right now. Form been substandard this year but he has a very specific role and will do it the best of our rucks but he is easily the 44th player this year.

 

[wallyt99]

I just want to wish the boys all the best, they have once again done us proud. It's 1 more game, no tomorrow, you boys know what to do, so do it and make history.

Errrr... The game IS tomorrow.

 

[grumbleguts]

The Herald Sun's ranking of all players in order of importance to the game.
1. Kennedy
2. Mitchell
3. Hodge
4. Nic Nat
5. Priddis
6. Rough
7. Frawley
8. Shuey
9. McGovern
10. Rioli
11. Burger
12. Gunston
13. Gaff
14. Stratton
15. Lewis
16. Masten
17. LeCras
18. Breust
19. Smith
20. B. Hill
21. Wellingham
22. Shiels
23. Schofield
24. Hurn
25. Lake
26. Gibson
27. McEvoy
28. Darling
29. Cripps
30. Yeo
31. Birchall
32. Sheppard
33. Hutchings
34. Duryea
35. Butler
36. Suckling
37. Sinclair
38. J. Hill
39. Sheed
40. Hale
41. Puopolo
42. Ellis
43. Rosa
44. Schoenmakers

LOL @ NicNat, he is a terrible player. Great ruck taps but that is where his game ends. He stands around the region where the ball is in duspute wondering exactly where he should be and what he should do in a sick parody of Majak Daw. He averages 1.89 marks per game. In the early '80s we had Ian Paton, a terrible ruckman for tapping, superb around the ground. That's what we want. I'd love to know what people see in NicNat. How many flags have west coast won in his career if ruck taps are so all important. They are 55-45 at best.

 

[Garf]

On 3-peat eve I have discovered my neighbour must be a Cats or $wans fan. He was mowing the lawn at 8:30 this morning.

 

[Stranglers]

What a great time of year. Does it get any better than this?

 

[walhawk]

Anyone know the running times for pre-match stuff? Can't find anywhere.

 

[Ned Ryerson]

Anyone know the running times for pre-match stuff? Can't find anywhere.

http://www.mcg.org.au/whats-on/events-calendar/2015/october/2015-afl-grand-final


SCHEDULE
11:45am-12:00pm: TAC presentation
12:30pm-12:40pm: Sprint heats
12:58pm-1:10pm: Entertainment and Premiership Cup lap of honour
1:10pm-1:30pm: Team on-field warm up
1:31pm-2.10pm: Motorcade and entertainment
2:26pm: National Anthem
2:30pm: AFL Grand Final commences
Half-time: Auskick and sprint final

 

[JustKickIt]

LOL @ NicNat, he is a terrible player. Great ruck taps but that is where his game ends. He stands around the region where the ball is in duspute wondering exactly where he should be and what he should do in a sick parody of Majak Daw. He averages 1.89 marks per game. In the early '80s we had Ian Paton, a terrible ruckman for tapping, superb around the ground. That's what we want. I'd love to know what people see in NicNat. How many flags have west coast won in his career if ruck taps are so all important. They are 55-45 at best.

Hopefully you havent just set him up for the game of his life

 

[Thaihawk]

Suckling to be sub, I will be annoyed if Doc is sub...

There is no possible way Doc would be sub. We need him right from the aggressive start.
I have a feeling that Shoey will be sub, and replace Hale sometime in the third quarter. This is if we don't have an injury.

 

[JustKickIt]

Not having a go at you directly but what is it with Hawthorn bigfooty posters and their obsession with what the media has to say about us? Who cares if they thought Freo were a chance against us in 2013? (Most pundits still tipped us). Who cares if most thought Sydney would win last year? And who cares if most think we will this week?

It has no bearing on the result, and most journos would have no more insight or knowledge then your average bigfooty poster.

Correct! I, for one, havent read even one of their articles. Just the title of the articles is usually enough for a laugh, I don't even bother opening them.

 

[Bikefreak]

Jon Anderson predicts a WC giving us a lesson, and game over early.

I never thought much of Jon Anderson as a Journo, and he barricks for the handbaggers, so it's a natural distain for our club.

Bitter tears.......

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[Thaihawk]

Not having a go at you directly but what is it with Hawthorn bigfooty posters and their obsession with what the media has to say about us? Who cares if they thought Freo were a chance against us in 2013? (Most pundits still tipped us). Who cares if most thought Sydney would win last year? And who cares if most think we will this week?

It has no bearing on the result, and most journos would have no more insight or knowledge then your average bigfooty poster.

Well said tf. After all the scribe's opinions and selections become history when the game starts. It's what takes place after that moment that counts.

 

[Bikefreak]

Jon Anderson is tainted. He most recently did an article early in the year stating that the cats dynasty was greater than Hawthorns.....he has no leg to stand on if Hawthorn brings home the bacon. He is desperate for Hawthorn to fail.

Just another handbagger campaigner.

They are a dime a dozen.

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[Bikefreak]

Not sure if I agree about Gunstall as the sub. He is our leading goal scorer.

But, let's not forget that win, lose or draw, this is most likely Hale-storms last game. The man has a heart the size of phar lap and won't die wondering.

The thing that gives me the most confidence is that it isn't a single player that will win it for us, it's the team that will.

Across every line you can compare player for player and we can look like we can be beaten, but it's about what we do as a team that makes us so great.

And more dangerous than most of the rest.

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