Predict the results of the 2019 Federal Election

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It means shorten is only governing for some. He is not Keating, he is not aspirational. He is not even Gillard?

Whereas this mob is governing for everyone? LOL. Just more meaningless rubbish. Wealthy people have had it all their way for far too long - a little balancing of the scales will be 'governing for everyone' at this point.
 
Every bit of that post is a lie.....and whats more you know it is
is that why i know self funded retirees who will wholly end upworse off as a result of the franking credits windback and they arent elligible for the pension. furthermore they dont get much difference in terms of payments from their portfolio as those a generation younger who had very beneficial superannuation systems and didnt have superannuation as it predated the time they were working.

then when you have cops and a number of other similar occupations complaining re negative gearing about 1 property and who wont fit in to the 8 or 9 houses category that labor keeps telling us all about then it is clear that issues exist with the policies. but no we should all just listen to bill and labor about how they will assist battlers immensely especially when the former labor government and the current leader has such a gopd track record of doing this.
 

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is that why i know self funded retirees who will wholly end upworse off as a result of the franking credits windback and they arent elligible for the pension. furthermore they dont get much difference in terms of payments from their portfolio as those a generation younger who had very beneficial superannuation systems and didnt have superannuation as it predated the time they were working.

then when you have cops and a number of other similar occupations complaining re negative gearing about 1 property and who wont fit in to the 8 or 9 houses category that labor keeps telling us all about then it is clear that issues exist with the policies. but no we should all just listen to bill and labor about how they will assist battlers immensely especially when the former labor government and the current leader has such a gopd track record of doing this.

When you're clearly trying to cause emotive reactions by mentioning particular professions, I dunno that cops are who I would've gone with.

Diddums to boomers who've priced their kids out of the housing market, who got every advantage of free education, cheap housing et al, and still retain their sense of entitlement thinking they should get a refund on tax they didn't pay.
 
When you're clearly trying to cause emotive reactions by mentioning particular professions, I dunno that cops are who I would've gone with.

Diddums to boomers who've priced their kids out of the housing market, who got every advantage of free education, cheap housing et al, and still retain their sense of entitlement thinking they should get a refund on tax they didn't pay.
LOL let's just say it is not the boomers who will be hurt by the franking credits removal nearly as much as those who were the generation before them who were never beneficiaries or had the options like the boomers did to go in superannuation. They are the ones who will hurt and who aren't the legitimately loaded people like Turnbull or Jones.
 
LOL let's just say it is not the boomers who will be hurt by the franking credits removal nearly as much as those who were the generation before them who were never beneficiaries or had the options like the boomers did to go in superannuation. They are the ones who will hurt and who aren't the legitimately loaded people like Turnbull or Jones.
So I'm going to feel a sense of loss over money I never got?
 
LOL let's just say it is not the boomers who will be hurt by the franking credits removal nearly as much as those who were the generation before them who were never beneficiaries or had the options like the boomers did to go in superannuation. They are the ones who will hurt and who aren't the legitimately loaded people like Turnbull or Jones.

If you're that hard up, sell some of the portfolio that's earning you these franking credits - to earn enough from dividends that franking credits changes will leave such a big hole in your budget, your portfolio has to be worth hundreds of thousands of dollars.

And if you're still that hard up, sell the house that you got for nothing for a 3000% profit and live on that.

The people you talk about (ie. the ones losing large franking credits cos their portfolios are huge) are legitimately loaded not through skill or hard work, but through the sheer dumb luck of capital gains and every decision taken by Howard and Costello around super, tax and welfare being made to benefit them so as to buy their vote. The bullshit of "Howard's battlers" is now coming back to bite the rest of us in the arse, which is why we talk about structural deficit in the budget and the doubling of national debt under the current government. And it's why the rest of us will never buy a house while these greedy pricks own houses in great suburbs with share portfolios worth hundreds of thousands of dollars, but still hold their hand out for more.

The boomers, and the generation before them that you speak of, are the first people in Australia's history whose children will be worse off than they were - and they continue expecting more from us.

This sense of entitlement seems to be intergenerational - for some reason these age groups don't see the need for structural reform because they believe their children and grandchildren are entitled to inherit their sheer dumb luck while the beneficiaries tell the rest of us that we aren't working hard enough, we're not "having a go", and we're eating to much smashed avocado. And maybe that's how they sleep at night while ******* the rest of us in the arse.
 
If you're that hard up, sell some of the portfolio that's earning you these franking credits - to earn enough from dividends that franking credits changes will leave such a big hole in your budget, your portfolio has to be worth hundreds of thousands of dollars.

And if you're still that hard up, sell the house that you got for nothing for a 3000% profit and live on that.

The people you talk about (ie. the ones losing large franking credits cos their portfolios are huge) are legitimately loaded not through skill or hard work, but through the sheer dumb luck of capital gains and every decision taken by Howard and Costello around super, tax and welfare being made to benefit them so as to buy their vote. The bullshit of "Howard's battlers" is now coming back to bite the rest of us in the arse, which is why we talk about structural deficit in the budget and the doubling of national debt under the current government. And it's why the rest of us will never buy a house while these greedy pricks own houses in great suburbs with share portfolios worth hundreds of thousands of dollars, but still hold their hand out for more.

The boomers, and the generation before them that you speak of, are the first people in Australia's history whose children will be worse off than they were - and they continue expecting more from us.

This sense of entitlement seems to be intergenerational - for some reason these age groups don't see the need for structural reform because they believe their children and grandchildren are entitled to inherit their sheer dumb luck while the beneficiaries tell the rest of us that we aren't working hard enough, we're not "having a go", and we're eating to much smashed avocado. And maybe that's how they sleep at night while ******* the rest of us in the arse.
Hhahahahahaha!
None of us worked?
We didn't see 17% INTEREST RATES?
WE DIDN'T SEE RECESSIONS?
We didn't live, work and actuaally struggle to feed our family through unemployment rates over 10+%. Over 30% if you were young.

It was all dumb luck and funded by a generous Government!!
LOLOLOL
No, just ***ing LOL!
 
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If you're that hard up, sell some of the portfolio that's earning you these franking credits - to earn enough from dividends that franking credits changes will leave such a big hole in your budget, your portfolio has to be worth hundreds of thousands of dollars.

And if you're still that hard up, sell the house that you got for nothing for a 3000% profit and live on that.

The people you talk about (ie. the ones losing large franking credits cos their portfolios are huge) are legitimately loaded not through skill or hard work, but through the sheer dumb luck of capital gains and every decision taken by Howard and Costello around super, tax and welfare being made to benefit them so as to buy their vote. The bullshit of "Howard's battlers" is now coming back to bite the rest of us in the arse, which is why we talk about structural deficit in the budget and the doubling of national debt under the current government. And it's why the rest of us will never buy a house while these greedy pricks own houses in great suburbs with share portfolios worth hundreds of thousands of dollars, but still hold their hand out for more.

The boomers, and the generation before them that you speak of, are the first people in Australia's history whose children will be worse off than they were - and they continue expecting more from us.

This sense of entitlement seems to be intergenerational - for some reason these age groups don't see the need for structural reform because they believe their children and grandchildren are entitled to inherit their sheer dumb luck while the beneficiaries tell the rest of us that we aren't working hard enough, we're not "having a go", and we're eating to much smashed avocado. And maybe that's how they sleep at night while ******* the rest of us in the arse.
YOu make a lot of assumptions about things don't you. Not everyone who will be affected has giant portfolios that are huge like you claim they are.

Not all of them have property in these prime locations you refer to.

I'm guessing you are a millenial like me who is for largely socialist principles who deep down actuallt wants everything for free like their parents got?
 
YOu make a lot of assumptions about things don't you. Not everyone who will be affected has giant portfolios that are huge like you claim they are.

Not all of them have property in these prime locations you refer to.

I'm guessing you are a millenial like me who is for largely socialist principles who deep down actuallt wants everything for free like their parents got?

Not everyone affected will have huge portfolios - but most of them will. Over 50% of franking credits go to the wealthiest 10%. And as I said, if you're losing an amount that is a massive whack then, by definition, it's cos you're getting a lot of dividends.

Yes, you're right - not all of these people have property in prime locations, I was being a little city focussed in that comment. But 1) if you bought your first house in Melbourne 50 years ago, it sure as hell wasn't in Mernda cos the place barely existed. More than likely you're in an inner suburb, or in people now call the "middle ring"; 2) even if you bought in, picking a random place, Warrnambool - maybe you aren't sitting on a gold mine, but you are sitting on something that is still worth 1-2000% what you paid when you first got into the market.

I don't know anyone who expects "everything for free like their parents got" (especially as no one thinks their parents got stuff "for free.")

I think people of this generation just want a similar opportunity to what their parents got, and they want to not be lectured by boomers who had it comparatively easy about how home ownership and opportunity is obtainable. I read recently that, in the 1970s, a house cost about 6 times the average income. Now? It's over 12 times the average income. Just to have a 20% deposit requires almost 3 times the average income.

It's why I get ******* furious about entitled boomers demanding more whilst hoarding up investment properties and ensuring that their grandchildren won't be able to afford one property for their family to live in.
 

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Not gotten much attention, but an independent candidate in Farrer seems to be mounting a strong campaign - now the favourite according to one bookmakers.
Guess it’ll give Sussan Ley more time to spend in her 795k apartment she bought on ‘impulse’
 
Not gotten much attention, but an independent candidate in Farrer seems to be mounting a strong campaign - now the favourite according to one bookmakers.

I think in the age of social media and disillusionment with the major parties, there is room for independent candidates to really make a mark in the House of Reps.
 


Baffled by UAP results - especially Herbert, it's where Townsville is located. The same Townsville that Palmer destroyed.
Big swing in Deakin - I was expecting more.
 
is that why i know self funded retirees who will wholly end upworse off as a result of the franking credits windback and they arent elligible for the pension. furthermore they dont get much difference in terms of payments from their portfolio as those a generation younger who had very beneficial superannuation systems and didnt have superannuation as it predated the time they were working.

then when you have cops and a number of other similar occupations complaining re negative gearing about 1 property and who wont fit in to the 8 or 9 houses category that labor keeps telling us all about then it is clear that issues exist with the policies. but no we should all just listen to bill and labor about how they will assist battlers immensely especially when the former labor government and the current leader has such a gopd track record of doing this.

Anyone who has a geared property already will see no change? There is so much that can go wrong with property, just giving those who didn’t do it properly a scapegoat really
 
Minority Liberal Government by a bee's dick and QLD/NSW results, However will be truly ****** that a coalition will hinge on one nation, UAP, Nationals. We'll be an absolute dumpster fire.
That would require a swing towards the govt, who is already minority
 
Minority Liberal Government by a bee's dick and QLD/NSW results, However will be truly ****** that a coalition will hinge on one nation, UAP, Nationals. We'll be an absolute dumpster fire.

UAP will be lucky to get more than one seat, One Nation will be even more lucky to have any in the House, and the Nationals are guaranteed to be in coalition with the Libs.
 
One Nation will be even more lucky to have any in the House, .

People keep saying that but talking to Sharon Lohse recently, (One Nation for Flynn), she was very bullish about her chances, especially with Nat's preference flows coming her way. I hear the same in Capricornia.

The recent polling numbers show a slump nationally, but I'm not sure it is reflected in certain seats.
 
People keep saying that but talking to Sharon Lohse recently, (One Nation for Flynn), she was very bullish about her chances, especially with Nat's preference flows coming her way. I hear the same in Capricornia.

The recent polling numbers show a slump nationally, but I'm not sure it is reflected in certain seats.

Look, the way the House of Reps works means that unless your primary vote is far more than 20% you have a near zero chance of harvesting enough for preferences to push you over 50%.

The key is for the ON or UAP vote to be anywhere near the majors (otherwise they will eventually be eliminated and have their own preferences distributed) and even with favourable how to vote cards, people still often don't follow them.

There is a reason why even though the Greens vote has hovered about 10% nationally, that they have never had more than one person in the House of Reps in political history. Michael Organ and Adam Bandt needed ideal preference flows from the two major parties to win election along with a huge primary vote.
 

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