gringo2011
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not me mate.
I'm conforming to the mob.
I'm.just here to hang s**t on the club, players and coach.
Just trying to fit in and get along.
About time.
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not me mate.
I'm conforming to the mob.
I'm.just here to hang s**t on the club, players and coach.
Just trying to fit in and get along.
I'll be lucky to see out the week...About time.
I agree. I think Riewoldt's opinion is much more informed than any of ours, so I would trust his word over most others in the media for instance. What's interesting too is that those at the club toe the company line, in the current environment we're in they won't come out and say it's one way or the other. They just can't. However Roo can speak on behalf of them sometimes and I know he has done it in the past, where they'll feed him information and he'll give it as his 'opinion' when asked. Not to mention obviously he has formed his own opinion like any one of us, just that he is right in the thick of it so it definitely holds more weight.Captained arguably our most successful era. Worked for RTB, GT, played with Lenny, BJ, Harves, Hammil...I reckon he’s qualified to have some authority on the subject of coaching. Also reckon if you don’t believe that then it ain’t nuttin but tall poppy syndrome, people just want to take the legend down. SMH.
How would it go down if the club was already leaning towards Ratten, would they still have process?I agree. I think Riewoldt's opinion is much more informed than any of ours, so I would trust his word over most others in the media for instance. What's interesting too is that those at the club toe the company line, in the current environment we're in they won't come out and say it's one way or the other. They just can't. However Roo can speak on behalf of them sometimes and I know he has done it in the past, where they'll feed him information and he'll give it as his 'opinion' when asked. Not to mention obviously he has formed his own opinion like any one of us, just that he is right in the thick of it so it definitely holds more weight.
My opinion of Richardson is primarily based on the teams performance and a little bit about what I hear behind closed doors, I'm obviously not there everyday or involved in the football program so when Nick Riewoldt answers questions on Fox Footy of if Richardson will remain our coach and he responds "I think he'll definitely coach out the year" it's a way of saying it without saying it.
He hasn't been wrong about many things at all involving our club since his retirement so I won't think otherwise now. Smart guy. True leader. Speaks highly of the President who ultimately will be part of the decision making process so I have good faith in them to run proper process and select a strong (pardon the pun!) candidate.
You would bloody hope soHow would it go down if the club was already leaning towards Ratten, would they still have process?
Billings
Gresham
Marshall
Battle
Webster
Lonie...
Wrong thread but. For him to say that as a part of the Club is quite unacceptable. Just has struggled with his ability to be Club Judd and Media Judd
I think the difference is Roo actually loves the club. Lethlean wants the club to be successful and will do the right thing for the club but I don't think he has the emotional investment in it that Riewoldt does and fair enough too.
I've said all along that I would prefer an untried coach over any tried coach (except Clarkson). I've said that I think Scott won't take us to a premiership but I can accept the decision if he comes in for a couple of years ala Roos and then have an untried coach take over from there. I really just echo Riewoldt's comments. It's fine if Scott becomes our coach but not at the expense of a thorough and diligent process.
That's fine. Just my opinion on the only scenario in which I would want him. If you think he won't do it, then I don't want him.Roos took the Dees job knowing it was a temporary job with a handover not too far down the line.
I can’t see BS being happy to do the same. He won’t just come in for a couple of years.
That’s ever. Already out of the game 2 years and goes back to America 2 to 3 months a year
OK, serious question...
What if Roo came out and said in his opinion, Richo deserves another year due to injuries
I agree. I think Riewoldt's opinion is much more informed than any of ours, so I would trust his word over most others in the media for instance. What's interesting too is that those at the club toe the company line, in the current environment we're in they won't come out and say it's one way or the other. They just can't. However Roo can speak on behalf of them sometimes and I know he has done it in the past, where they'll feed him information and he'll give it as his 'opinion' when asked. Not to mention obviously he has formed his own opinion like any one of us, just that he is right in the thick of it so it definitely holds more weight.
My opinion of Richardson is primarily based on the teams performance and a little bit about what I hear behind closed doors, I'm obviously not there everyday or involved in the football program so when Nick Riewoldt answers questions on Fox Footy of if Richardson will remain our coach and he responds "I think he'll definitely coach out the year" it's a way of saying it without saying it.
He hasn't been wrong about many things at all involving our club since his retirement so I won't think otherwise now. Smart guy. True leader. Speaks highly of the President who ultimately will be part of the decision making process so I have good faith in them to run proper process and select a strong (pardon the pun!) candidate.
I believe they want a completely fresh face.
The board do and that’s why the coach is certain to go. We can keep looking to blame everything or we can get in with a new beginning. I’m going the second option. People are still blaming Welles icke. Not sure I see the point.
I'd really like to see who Ratts (and Gubby) could get to be his assistants.Would Ratts stay on in some capacity if that happened I wonder?
All the assistant coaches are relatively fresh faces still after only one season.
Improvement? Compared to their under 18 years? They are very good players. Some are only now finding form.
Who knows the players they could have become under a better coach, in a better team - same for all. Too many variables for me to be convinced of the coaches worth based purely on SOME players natural progression.
If it were all players, or if he'd taken poor players and made them useful I'd be more convinced.
The only players you could really put in that bracket are Geary, Wright, Weller, Bruce and Hickey.
If you're just talking about players that are fulfilling their potential under Alan, I'll see your list and raise you
Coffield
Savage
Ross
Dunstan
Acres
Steele
Newnes
Longer
Long
Austin
Phillips
White
Sinclair
MacKenzie
Rice
Clavarino
Pierce
Connelan
Freeman
Markworth
O'Kearney
Lee
Spencer White
Murdoch
Saunders
I'm not saying he's responsible for the spuds, a bad player is a bad player, but what has he done / did he do with those players?
I don't see improvement apart from expected improvement that would happen in any given (non-toxic) scenario.
That’s as likely as Roo coming out & saying that Watters was unfairly booted & deserves another chance.
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Even if Ratts got the main gig, he'd probably want his own assistants.Would Ratts stay on in some capacity if that happened I wonder?
All the assistant coaches are relatively fresh faces still after only one season.
Would prefer we appoint the singed dwarf.That’s as likely as Roo coming out & saying that Watters was unfairly booted & deserves another chance.
Most probably is the one pushing for Roughead and the reason Dermot is hanging around as well as Robbie ChancellorEven if Ratts got the main gig, he'd probably want his own assistants.
Well, nothing much left to say except I wholeheartedly agree. And you're on the money with it all.Riewoldt epitomises the culture of the club between 2004-2011, when we were ruthless, beating up on all those clubs who made us the laughing stock for 100 years. In my time I’ve never been as proud as a supporter as during the ‘Roo era’. He brought pride & hope to the jumper.
In the short period since his retirement he has already built up a reputation as one of the finest football analysts in the business. He can talk to just about any topic with a high level of understanding & convey it to the audience as if he is painting a picture.
I’ve been watching/listening to Roo on various shows & on every occasion he absolutely commands the room. Old, wise heads that have been in the footy industry for years really take notice & listen when he talks.
He is the best commentator in the media right now, but I wouldn’t be alone in saying that, & yes I’m biased. Can he do no wrong? Of course not, I couldn’t stand the way he shouted down kids when he played. But as a St Kilda person who bleeds for the club & as a person that obviously has retained close relationships with people of authority within the club, he is well informed, probably more so than anyone else in the media.
Why would “us”, “St Kilda fanatics”, not sit & listen to a guy we have admired for two decades, who speaks from a position of knowledge on matters involving St Kilda & who presents himself & his opinions in such a way? I think if you are paying attention to what he says you should consider yourself well informed.
I believe Nick is an extremely intelligent guy, he doesn’t just say things for the hell of it, he clearly has an agenda - He wants what’s best for the St K FC - Sure, Lethlean might want what’s best for the club from a professional point of view but Roo is like a fan & has an emotional investment in the club. Same goes for Bassett who I believe utilises Roo as somewhat of a confidant. With these two backing the club, I am confident we are in good hands even if it seems Roo is not overtly involved with decision making, I think he is to a degree.
As Roo pointed out last night, I simply one a proper process in finding a coach. If that occurs & we get Scott or Rats or whoever, I don’t care. As long as the club has made the correct decision based on conducting a thorough process & used the evidence put in front of them then I’m happy with it. If a mistake occurs, & the appointee doesn’t work out, at least the club can be satisfied they made the correct decision based on what they knew at the time.
Would prefer we appoint the singed dwarf.
OK let me try another way.That's actually comical.
How many of those have gone on to forge a career at other clubs?
So players who haven't improved are all his fault, but those who have, well that's just natural improvement.
Seriously?
Welles Eicke destroyed the club with his selfish attitude. The club has never been the same since he got a hold of it. Ask P66.It’s actually Wells Eicke and he’s my mates grandfather.
What exactly are they blaming him for? Please enlighten me!
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Welles Eicke is responsible for our modern woes. He began the slide into mediocrity last century. Plugger66 can fill in more. Welles has a lot to answer for. The youngest man ever to play for the club and the youngest to destroy it.It’s actually Wells Eicke and he’s my mates grandfather.
What exactly are they blaming him for? Please enlighten me!
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