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That's not actually what you said though. You said "F/S trumps Academy".
Alwyn's master plan will work then. The club should have listened to him a long time ago.In 20 years both the Davey twins will have had twins
"pedantic" AKA factualYou can be pedantic as you like - The fact is Academy eligibility doesn't over-ride FS eligibility - And history so far shows that players usually follow the FS route - And I'll add what happens when Academies aren't around in twenty years ?
Ignorant question alert, have there ever been father/son twins before?
How does bidding work if we wanted to get both of them? Is there a 'one egg, one pick' rule ha?
"pedantic" AKA factual
history shows they don't always choose FS - I'm pretty sure I've seen you whinge that a player chose Academy over FS
just as relevant as your last point: what happens if they scrap father-son?
I didn't say it was relevant, only just as relevant as you point.It's more likely the Academy system will be scrapped before FS - And one FS hardly supports your argument - Yes, players should not have multiple ways to be drafted - And the F/S was around long before Academies.
Nobody said that it does. You however said that Father Son overrides Academy. Which is incorrect.You can be pedantic as you like - The fact is Academy eligibility doesn't over-ride FS eligibility - And history so far shows that players usually follow the FS route - And I'll add what happens when Academies aren't around in twenty years ?
At the end of the day, it’s the players choice if they are eligible for bothNobody said that it does. You however said that Father Son overrides Academy. Which is incorrect.
Exactly. Although I do think that any player that's eligible for FS should be ruled out of academies. These academies are set up to develop players that would otherwise not be in the game. Heeney and Mills are perfect examples of this, neither would have played AFL if not for Sydney's academy so I think their work with them should be rewarded. Blakey though? Nope.At the end of the day, it’s the players choice if they are eligible for both
Nobody said that it does. You however said that Father Son overrides Academy. Which is incorrect.
Yeah it seems like there's a lot of potential to abuse the system by scouting promising juniors and signing them up early so by the time their draft year rolls around you get first dibs and you've already groomed them for a roleExactly. Although I do think that any player that's eligible for FS should be ruled out of academies. These academies are set up to develop players that would otherwise not be in the game. Heeney and Mills are perfect examples of this, neither would have played AFL if not for Sydney's academy so I think their work with them should be rewarded. Blakey though? Nope.
'The Talent Code' by Daniel Coyle answers a lot of these questions imo. Really good read for sports nuts and those interested in the mind / learning in general.I've always been interested in the nature vs nuture debate. Are we born with it or are we taught?
What makes a son able to play like his dad, genetics or just the fact he was brought up around footy?
I always had this feeling you were mostly born with gifts but they could he honed or lost in certain environments but of late I've swung more from nature to nuture.
As a Chelsea fan ive watched our dominant academy with great interest, and finally now it is bearing fruit as we have been forced to play them.
On the surface you assume ok, they have ploughed money into the academy, poached any young teen kid who was showing ability and the elite environment does the rest, but the more ive looked something has astounded me.
Alot of the kids in that academy, who are now performing in the best league in the world, have been there since age 6
Think about a 6 year old kid... Now think how could you possibly identify a 6 year old and say ok... He looks to me like he will have the attributes to make it at the top level in 2 decades time...
Surely all you are looking for is sharp hand eye, athletic looks .. then the environment takes care of everything else. Not born with it... It's taught.
With all that being said, clearly we can't have academy in Australia like Europe because of equilisation. Can't sit on kids for 15 years and call them yours, but fs... Different story. I do wonder if there is a way to be more Intensive for longer....if there was evidence it was more likely to churn out AFL standard players.
Maybe there could be enough fs/nga names to have them all play for the same local team, learn to play together early, form bonds, play the Essendon way
Far fetched I know but, cutting edge ideas sometimes garner results before other follow.
Any way just chewing the offseason fat. Thoughts?
It’s an interesting debate. I was always decent at sports that required a high level of hand eye coordination (cricket, tennis, hockey etc.) but well below average at sports that required me to use my feet on a ball like footy, soccer etc. Unsure if this was my parents encouragement or if it was inherent but it would take a fine tuned long term (Decades/multiple generations) experiment to really get conclusive results. Would be great if someone would fund this (has it been done before?). It is interesting that there are many examples of people being good at both “hand eye” and “foot eye” (for lack of a better term) sports and having to choose one or the other.I've always been interested in the nature vs nuture debate. Are we born with it or are we taught?
What makes a son able to play like his dad, genetics or just the fact he was brought up around footy?
I always had this feeling you were mostly born with gifts but they could he honed or lost in certain environments but of late I've swung more from nature to nuture.
As a Chelsea fan ive watched our dominant academy with great interest, and finally now it is bearing fruit as we have been forced to play them.
On the surface you assume ok, they have ploughed money into the academy, poached any young teen kid who was showing ability and the elite environment does the rest, but the more ive looked something has astounded me.
Alot of the kids in that academy, who are now performing in the best league in the world, have been there since age 6
Think about a 6 year old kid... Now think how could you possibly identify a 6 year old and say ok... He looks to me like he will have the attributes to make it at the top level in 2 decades time...
Surely all you are looking for is sharp hand eye, athletic looks .. then the environment takes care of everything else. Not born with it... It's taught.
With all that being said, clearly we can't have academy in Australia like Europe because of equilisation. Can't sit on kids for 15 years and call them yours, but fs... Different story. I do wonder if there is a way to be more Intensive for longer....if there was evidence it was more likely to churn out AFL standard players.
Maybe there could be enough fs/nga names to have them all play for the same local team, learn to play together early, form bonds, play the Essendon way
Far fetched I know but, cutting edge ideas sometimes garner results before other follow.
Any way just chewing the offseason fat. Thoughts?