Preview R2: Changes vs. Western Bulldogs

[jamesclean]

let's gooooo

Out: Laird

 

[1990crow]

Toby Murray didn't look like an AFL footballer to me.
But Dogs are quite tall so maybe he gets a reprieve.

 

[thebirdman 24]

It’s Bond out for me.

 

[TubbsFarquhar]

Laird out is going to be a popular post here (and for good reason), but we all know that it isn't going to happen.

Rankine obviously in, probably for Turray who looked out of depth. Not like for like, but I'm not sure who else goes out.

 

[40porpoise]

Toby Murray isn't quite ready and will cost us in a big game. But, McAndrew can't ruck all game just yet like ROB used to. I think they're a combined package at this stage. TT could be second ruck but that would be a waste

 

[Geoffa32]

Laird out Rankine in.

 

[Ham]

Will Peatling be in trouble for the hold on Daicos that led to umpire contact?

 

[huludicidal]

What I would do:

Out:
Laird (what an embarrassing player and performance. Any chance someone can teach him the “ball has to travel 15m to be called a mark” rule? Kills all forward momentum. Is slow. Cant kick over a jam tin. Useless in the air. Makes horrendous decisions relentlessly. Selfishly screams for the ball when in terrible positions to receive it. Idiot.)

Toby Murray (look I know it was game 1, but ya can’t literally touch it twice and look like a complete donkey out there. Fascinating that Nicks was essentially trying to hide him on the bench for a lot of it after quarter time as he only played 32% total game time, which is ridiculous)

Soligo (rest him for the dogs game as there’s no way he should be playing 3 games in 12 days)


In:
Rankine
Nankervis
Maley

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Will Peatling be in trouble for the hold on Daicos that led to umpire contact?

Fine at worst.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

What I would do:

Out:
Laird (what an embarrassing player and performance. Any chance someone can teach him the “ball has to travel 15m to be called a mark” rule? Kills all forward momentum. Is slow. Cant kick over a jam tin. Useless in the air. Makes horrendous decisions relentlessly. Selfishly screams for the ball when in terrible positions to receive it. Idiot.)

Toby Murray (look I know it was game 1, but ya can’t literally touch it twice and look like a complete donkey out there. Fascinating that Nicks was essentially trying to hide him on the bench for a lot of it after quarter time as he only played 32% total game time, which is ridiculous)

Soligo (rest him for the dogs game as there’s no way he should be playing 3 games in 12 days)


In:
Rankine
Nankervis
Maley

We need to get Soligo's fitness base up.

He's quality worth playing on a 5 man bench on lower minutes.

 

[TRP1996]

Toby Murray isn't quite ready and will cost us in a big game. But, McAndrew can't ruck all game just yet like ROB used to. I think they're a combined package at this stage. TT could be second ruck but that would be a waste

Yeah, this is fundamentally the dilemma.

If we don't want to use TT as the chop-out, we need to play Turray (or Maley?).

But can the team carry someone getting 2 possessions and spending only 30% time on ground (or whatever marginal improvements to those numbers you'd expect from Turray getting over first game nerves or from playing the slightly more experienced Maley)?

 

[Mattrox]

Rankine in.

 

[WetCrow1991]

I was harsh on Bond, but Laird was worse, not that they would drop Laird.

 

[Mattrox]

I'm watching highlights on AFL app.... The 3rd Q highlights make it seem like a close game... the 4th Q starts like Pies will win. hahahahaha

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Yeah, this is fundamentally the dilemma.

If we don't want to use TT as the chop-out, we need to play Turray (or Maley?).

But can the team carry someone getting 2 possessions and spending only 30% time on ground (or whatever marginal improvements to those numbers you'd expect from Turray getting over first game nerves or from playing the slightly more experienced Maley)?

English has the biggest motor of the ruckmen, we we need to double team him on Fridsy.

 

[Thylacinus]

Rankine in.

Um, yes...and in all probability the sun will 'rise' tomorrow.

 

[Barneythecrab]

Rankine for soligo.

 

[CrowToon]

Cant see how they drop Turray. McAndrew needs a chop out, kid is on debut against Pies at the MCG. Played limited minutes - maybe that's his role right now. Or maybe he goes well next week.

As much as we would love to see Laird go it won't happen. Bond more vulnerable but I think that would be unlucky.

I could see them resting Soligo and then the bottom 6 are all on notice for round 3

 

[crowded house]

Rankine comes in.
I cant see them shuffling the team structure round 2 so I imagine it’s Pedlar who makes way.
Really sucks for Peds as laird, bond and T Murray clearly worse.

i would put Nank in for Laird.

If they do mess around with the structure any one of the above could go out.

 

[WeeBlake]

NMurray relief ruck?

 

[crowded house]

Berry went 1/1 with hit outs so we have options.

 

[huludicidal]

We need to get Soligo's fitness base up.

He's quality worth playing on a 5 man bench on lower minutes.

I understand this logic, but our backup ruck already only played 32% game time so not sure we can really call it a 5 man bench if we’re essentially using that tall like a sub.

Soligo was at 60% game time today, and even if we were to roll with him
playing 60% against the Dogs and then the Cats, that’s still a huge ask in 12 days for mine. I think we’d be better off getting him some km in the legs with pure running on the track (and standard training) to freshen him up for a 70% game time performance against Geelong in 12 days personally.

Ultimately a big part of that decision will fall on how he pulls up on Monday. If he’s feeling good, he’ll probably play, and that’s not a bad thing at all.

If Soligo is retained in the side, it will be fascinating to see who makes way for Rankine. Surely they wouldn’t drop Pedlar - I know some people will conclude that he’s the likely one out, but I don’t see it at all. Dropping Bond (or any defender for that matter) for Rank makes little to no sense. I just feel like the player making way for Rankine kinda has to be a “managed” situation personally. Not necessarily Soligo I guess - maybe one of Cumming, Peatling or Ah Chee who all had interrupted preseasons too.

 

[dylan123]

Is our SANFL side playing any kind of practice game?

Ideally would be a good time for Finnbar to compete well as he'd be a good replacement for Toby. McAndrew isn't capable of playing 100% tog and we should be trying to avoid TT in the ruck unless it's dire. So we either bring in ROB who doesn't offer anything around the ground or Finnbar who might be an extra marking target. Not sure anyone else can do it.

 

[cmndstab]

In: Rankine
Out: T. Murray

Thilthorpe, Walker and Fogarty told "whichever of you is offering the least up forward gets put in the ruck when McAndrew needs a rest".

 

[cmndstab]

Is our SANFL side playing any kind of practice game?

Ideally would be a good time for Finnbar to compete well as he'd be a good replacement for Toby. McAndrew isn't capable of playing 100% tog and we should be trying to avoid TT in the ruck unless it's dire. So we either bring in ROB who doesn't offer anything around the ground or Finnbar who might be an extra marking target. Not sure anyone else can do it.

I forgot about Maley. I wouldn't be against us giving him a go in place of T. Murray.