Opinion Have St Kilda been overhyped this year?

[Mr Meow]

I said it before but I'll say it again.

We were not hyped - barely anyone picked us for anything better than. 8-10th place before the season started. Expectations were not that high externally.

Just go look at AFL.com.au predictions for example

Wildcard spot was a realistic aim for 2026. 11th-14th would be disappointing and top 6 would be surprising. I'd say that was the rough consensus.

 

[g_TRAIN]

Wildcard spot was a realistic aim for 2026. 11th-14th would be disappointing and top 6 would be surprising. I'd say that was the rough consensus.

Yes pretty much.

Internal expectations I think we're a little higher and also among some of the fanbase but that's ok they usually are.

 

[joey_jo_jo]

Dont think theyve been that bad this year. Probably shouldve jagged at least 1 win out of the pies and dees games where I think composure going into 50 let them down but otherwise I would say most results have gone as expected.
They almost jagged a win against the crows in their 2nd week in a row in adelaide and whilst the loss against the lions looked like a blow out they actually went toe to toe for 3 and a bit qtrs till lions ran over the top of them.

Nas looks to have worked out how to still have a big influence even when copping a tag and while I was baffled with the use of marshall in early games it looks like him and tdk are starting to click as a duo in the last couple of weeks.

They should really aim for a win against suns next week, they are shaky and saints need a scalp to take next step.

 

[Plugger35]

I think we are doing alright, we are in the Top 8.

For the next 10 minutes before the Suns knock us back down to 9th.

 

[Suburbanhack]

I said it before but I'll say it again.

We were not hyped - barely anyone picked us for anything better than. 8-10th place before the season started. Expectations were not that high externally.

Just go look at AFL.com.au predictions for example

Spot on. Thread title is confusing as we were not hyped by anyone, least of all by Saints fans and certainly not by the so called "experts". 8-10 was the realistic goal and winning a final would exceed expectations. 2027 and beyond is where most Saints fans think we will push up the ladder. Instead of being 0-2 really should have been 2-0, which would have set them up nicely (yeah I know – if my auntie had b@11s she’s be my uncle). Lost by a point after being rogered by the umpires against the Crows and beaten by a better team in Brisbane, but were in it up to our necks for 3 ½ quarters. 3 of the 4 wins have been against teams we lost to in 2025 so there is definite improvement

To be 4-4 at this stage is probably disappointing as I think we have played better than that. After the next fortnight we have a very tough run with Swans (away) Freo (away) and the Hawks, with 5 and 6 day breaks mixed in. But after that it opens up and top 8 is still realistic. If they are good enough they make it.

 

[projectv]

Spot on. Thread title is confusing as we were not hyped by anyone, least of all by Saints fans and certainly not by the so called "experts". 8-10 was the realistic goal and winning a final would exceed expectations. 2027 and beyond is where most Saints fans think we will push up the ladder. Instead of being 0-2 really should have been 2-0, which would have set them up nicely (yeah I know – if my auntie had b@11s she’s be my uncle). Lost by a point after being rogered by the umpires against the Crows and beaten by a better team in Brisbane, but were in it up to our necks for 3 ½ quarters. 3 of the 4 wins have been against teams we lost to in 2025 so there is definite improvement

To be 4-4 at this stage is probably disappointing as I think we have played better than that. After the next fortnight we have a very tough run with Swans (away) Freo (away) and the Hawks, with 5 and 6 day breaks mixed in. But after that it opens up and top 8 is still realistic. If they are good enough they make it.

It was changed to hyped because the original flog OP kept renaming it to 'no mans land'.

Anyway, we have a huge next 7 games before the bye coming up, which would certainly answer the question of if we've been overhyped. Gold Coast, Richmond, Freo, Hawthorn, Sydney, Giants, Doggies. If we're 5-10 after that we're cooked. If we can somehow sneak a few more wins and go into the bye at 8-7 we'd be on track for a top 10 at least. But it will be really tough.

 

[GC2015]

It was changed to hyped because the original flog OP kept renaming it to 'no mans land'.

That wasn't me. That was a different poster who was creating the 'no mans land' threads.

 

[projectv]

That wasn't me. That was a different poster who was creating the 'no mans land' threads.

I know, it was Nostradumbass.

 

[GC2015]

St Kilda go back to having a negative win-loss record after their loss to the Suns tonight. Very likely Adelaide will boot the Saints out of the top 10 tomorrow when they face Richmond. So they've got some work to do from here, but playing Richmond next week should see St Kilda re-enter the top 10 next week.

Still not really sure where the Saints really sit this year, but if I had to guess I'd say the wildcard playoff between 7th - 10th.

 

[Call Me Cake]

 

[Permission Capable]

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Screw you beat me to it. Shame the Saints can't play the absolute worst teams in the comp every week.

 

[beside the seaside]

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Lost our best player before the game and our second best before half time. But yes, let's go post on the st kilda has been overhyped thread because they lost. Good stuff.

 

[Yoda_]

Pot. kettle. black. I know coming from a Dons supporter (thats not the point)

Is there a poorer set of club traded players than this group of mis fits? All honourable players in their own rights but none you would consider needle movers.

Dougal Howard

20

Dougal Howard

Age

30

Ht

199cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.9

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

3.1

3star

M

4.4

4star

T

1.4

3star

MG

176.2

3star

D

9.9

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

1.4

1star

M

4.7

4star

T

0.6

1star

MG

171.9

3star

D

9.0

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

3.6

3star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.8

5star

MG

133.8

3star

(Power)
Jack Carroll (Carlton)
Liam Henry (Fremantle)
Jack Macrae (Dogs)
Mason Wood

32

Mason Wood

Age

32

Ht

192cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.2

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.2

4star

CL

0.3

2star

D

8.3

2star

K

2.7

1star

HB

5.7

3star

M

1.7

2star

T

1.3

2star

CL

0.0

1star

D

15.8

4star

K

8.6

4star

HB

7.2

5star

M

4.6

5star

T

2.6

4star

CL

0.6

3star

(Roos)
Jack Silvagni

3

Jack Silvagni

Age

28

Ht

194cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.0

3star

K

7.1

3star

HB

3.8

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.9

4star

MG

176.9

3star

D

5.3

1star

K

4.0

1star

HB

1.3

1star

M

1.7

2star

T

0.7

1star

MG

91.0

2star

D

9.2

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

3.0

3star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.8

5star

MG

131.4

3star

(Blues)
Tom De Koning

21

Tom De Koning

Age

26

Ht

201cm

Wt

102kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.0

2star

K

3.0

1star

HB

5.0

4star

CL

0.5

2star

HO

1.5

4star

No current season stats available

D

8.0

2star

K

3.0

1star

HB

5.0

4star

CL

0.5

3star

HO

1.5

5star

(Blues)
Brad Hill (Hawks via Freo)
Sam Flanders (Suns)

Throw in alternative signings (SSP's, academy kids) and its evidence they are a collective poorly built list.

Ant Caminiti
Cooper Sharman
Michiti Owens
Marcus Windhager
Max Hall
Callum Wilkie

44

Callum Wilkie

Age

30

Ht

191cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.2

4star

K

9.8

4star

HB

4.4

3star

M

4.5

4star

T

1.8

4star

MG

221.3

3star

D

12.6

3star

K

9.0

4star

HB

3.6

2star

M

2.6

3star

T

1.4

2star

MG

223.1

3star

D

14.0

4star

K

8.4

4star

HB

5.6

4star

M

4.6

5star

T

2.2

4star

MG

170.0

3star

Rowan Marshall

19

Rowan Marshall

Age

30

Ht

201cm

Wt

105kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.4

4star

K

8.8

3star

HB

6.6

4star

CL

3.4

5star

HO

20.2

5star

D

12.9

3star

K

9.3

4star

HB

3.6

2star

CL

2.8

4star

HO

17.8

5star

D

10.6

3star

K

5.8

3star

HB

4.8

4star

CL

1.0

3star

HO

7.8

5star

bolded are the genuine hits

 

[Saint12]

Screw you beat me to it. Shame the Saints can't play the absolute worst teams in the comp every week.

We havent even played Essendon yet

 

[Saint12]

Pot. kettle. black. I know coming from a Dons supporter (thats not the point)

Is there a poorer set of club traded players than this group of mis fits? All honourable players in their own rights but none you would consider needle movers.

Dougal Howard (Power)
Jack Carroll (Carlton)
Liam Henry (Fremantle)
Jack Macrae (Dogs)
Mason Wood (Roos)
Jack Silvagni (Blues)
Tom De Koning (Blues)
Brad Hill (Hawks via Freo)
Sam Flanders (Suns)

Throw in alternative signings (SSP's, academy kids) and its evidence they are a collective poorly built list.

Ant Caminiti
Cooper Sharman
Michiti Owens
Marcus Windhager
Max Hall
Callum Wilkie
Rowan Marshall

bolded are the genuine hits

Jade Gresham trumps all of them

 

[danster168]

They were only over-hyped by casual fans. They brought in a worse ruckman, essentially torched Rowan Marshall

19

Rowan Marshall

Age

30

Ht

201cm

Wt

105kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.4

4star

K

8.8

3star

HB

6.6

4star

CL

3.4

5star

HO

20.2

5star

D

12.9

3star

K

9.3

4star

HB

3.6

2star

CL

2.8

4star

HO

17.8

5star

D

10.6

3star

K

5.8

3star

HB

4.8

4star

CL

1.0

3star

HO

7.8

5star

, and brought in a bunch of role players. They just randomly thought that 2 rucks would work even though it didn't work with Grundy and Gawn. The evidence was there. I said it at the time and I'll say it now, it was never going to work and the people that brought in TDK should be sacked.

 

[BrutThough]

Pot. kettle. black. I know coming from a Dons supporter (thats not the point)

Is there a poorer set of club traded players than this group of mis fits? All honourable players in their own rights but none you would consider needle movers.

Dougal Howard (Power)
Jack Carroll (Carlton)
Liam Henry (Fremantle)
Jack Macrae (Dogs)
Mason Wood (Roos)
Jack Silvagni (Blues)
Tom De Koning (Blues)
Brad Hill (Hawks via Freo)
Sam Flanders (Suns)

Throw in alternative signings (SSP's, academy kids) and its evidence they are a collective poorly built list.

Ant Caminiti
Cooper Sharman
Michiti Owens
Marcus Windhager
Max Hall
Callum Wilkie
Rowan Marshall

bolded are the genuine hits

Why do opposition fans make lists like this to illustrate how clueless they are about other teams lists? What do you gain out of it?

 

[Yoda_]

Jade Gresham trumps all of them

comprehension not a strong suit clearly,

 

[Yoda_]

Why do opposition fans make lists like this to illustrate how clueless they are about other teams lists? What do you gain out of it?

its an illustration how poorly built the Saints list is

 

[BrutThough]

its an illustration how poorly built the Saints list is

All you illustrated was how uninformed you are about certain players.

 

[joe444]

Probably, but I ain't judging them on the hardest trip in AFL.

 

[Feraligatr]

Yeah, who’s ever hyped us ever

It's true, even when you were playing in Grand Finals no one ever hyped you.

Seriously though, I think St. Kilda are a 5-10 team. They'll play finals more likely than not and I think thats what most rational people had them at.

But we'll really see where they're at with the super tough game they've got next week against the Mighty Tigers.

 

[Yoda_]

All you illustrated was how uninformed you are about certain players.

are we really doing this? taking aim at semantics and not the actual point in a "gotcha" moment that really isnt there?

 

[Count_Zero]

Why do opposition fans make lists like this to illustrate how clueless they are about other teams lists? What do you gain out of it?

They gain closure that not only their team made huge blunders like paying Ben McKay a tonne of money.

 

[schmuttt]

They'll make top 10 easily, very good fixture. Should be sacking Ross if they don't though.