List Mgmt. 2019 Draft and Trade Hypotheticals Thread - Part II

[caesar88]

Disagree. We would quite likely still get Kemp around 9.

No chance

 

[caesar88]

If there's no point having 9, why would Geelong take that trade?

They may think differently

 

[caesar88]

Florent? personally, id have him ahead of mcinerney, hayward, and probably rowbottom and mccartin.

He is Extremely Limited!

 

[barry fu]

Love how we can just throw in or dump a contracted player as trade bait. FFS, reading this thread while away on work and can't believe the what I'm seeing.

One or two well out of their pram Kap.
Harley The Head Honcho has had a hacking over Joe The Groin, yet no trade has transpired to date....Fascinating really the reactions to something that hasn't happened.

 

[caesar88]

Saw in this article that Phillips is on a short list for Essendon. Maybe a trade is starting to form...

Bombers' hard-line stance on Joe Daniher not matched behind the scenes

Essendon's public posturing about the 'irreplaceable' Joe Daniher is a different story to what's taking place in discussions with Sydney.

7news.com.au

Swans out: Papley, 25
In: Daniher

Carlton out: Phillips, Pick 9
In: Papley

Essendon Out: Daniher
In: Phillips, Pick 9, Pick 25

Maybe a few other minor pick swaps.

Please don’t get my hopes up like that Masey

 

[6yearsold]

What about it implies direct quote? More likely looked at our list and decided what was most credible for the next rumour.

It was in quotation marks.

 

[tombomb]

He is Extremely Limited!

gonna take a rough guess and say your reply picked up my wrong post and your comment is about Mccartin , not Florent?

 

[BruceFromBalnarring]

Daniher should sit out the season, get his body right, and come next year.

 

[6yearsold]

One or two well out of their pram Kap.
Harley The Head Honcho has had a hacking over Joe The Groin, yet no trade has transpired to date....Fascinating really the reactions to something that hasn't happened.

It's called hypothetico deductive reasoning. Most develop the ability around adolescence.

 

[BruceFromBalnarring]

It was in quotation marks.

Quoting Ralph.

 

[RobbieK]

He is Extremely Limited!

He has an inside and an outside game. Good speed. Can kick a goal. Only 21.

He is no Stefan Carey.

 

[tombomb]

'happy to let go' implies a direct quote from the club that we are happy to let Reid go

seriously? lol

there is no quote from sydney.

the direct quote, is from Jon Ralph just speculating on who we may give up to please essendon. And it isnt even a 'direct' quote.

It is just click bait nonsense.

It isn't even Ralph's fault cause he isnt saying anything about how we want to, are going to, or plan to give reid. Just that if a player could satisfy essendon, he might be one.

 

[BruceFromBalnarring]

He has an inside and an outside game. Good speed. Can kick a goal. Only 21.

He is no Stefan Carey.

But he can’t fly. And I guess depending on one’s perspective, an inability to fly is an extreme limitation.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

No chance

Every club will have their 5-15 differently. Let’s be real there are 4 tip talents with two elite ones- top 4 of Rowell, Anderson, Green, Serong. Ash probably just behind.

 

[barry fu]

It's called hypothetico deductive reasoning. Most develop the ability around adolescence.
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More like Gareth Evans take for Fu 6yo.

 

[barry fu]

There will far more than 4 or 5 'talents' this draft.
Just not blindingly obvious yet, even for the oracles.

 

[BloodySwan]

seriously? lol

there is no quote from sydney.

the direct quote, is from Jon Ralph just speculating on who we may give up to please essendon. And it isnt even a 'direct' quote.

It is just click bait nonsense.

It isn't even Ralph's fault cause he isnt saying anything about how we want to, are going to, or plan to give reid. Just that if a player could satisfy essendon, he might be one.

Probably reading posts on bigfooty and was like "eh, close enough"

 

[BloodySwan]

Headed over to the Essendon board for a laugh, 2 types of posts.

Swans need to pay up because Joe is contracted and they want him.

Bonar should be cheap due to his injury history but despite him being contracted

 

[The King!]

Need a Panadol for Joe Daniher fatigue headache

 

[The King!]

Headed over to the Essendon board for a laugh, 2 types of posts.

Swans need to pay up because Joe is contracted and they want him.

Bonar should be cheap due to his injury history but despite him being contracted

There’s a book here somewhere

dumb shit essendon fans say

 

[Corpuscles]

Thought I’d brush off the old username and join the conversation/bitching. I’m hoping by the end of the trade window this user name won’t be an appropriate description of our efforts.

Anyway, my 2c worth for this trade window.

It’s time to show some teeth and stay strong. We often get shat on from a great height by the AFL and Vic clubs/media. No free lunches for other teams this time around and the media rabble can do one.

Daniher is a great player (or) was a great player (or) might again be a great player (or) is totally knackered. There’s a lot of unknowns there. The known is he will cost a lot in picks and cap space. We should be offering according to those risks and balance that out against imminent need and value next year. He costs us nothing next year or bankrupts us this year. Anyone remember us signing Bradshaw.... and what that promised.... how did that turn out again.
I’d offer next years first and 25 - nothing more. Next years first is about what they would get if he walked but they can access it and trade it now, 25 would be their no.1 pick as it currently stands. Points for next year are next years problem. I wouldn’t be allowing Dodoro to drag us into endless negotiations.

Papley... we’ll I’m gutted. If we lose him on top of F/S’s Mitchell and Dunkley not wanting us it looks ugly. He’s not even played 100 games to have F/S offspring either.
Anyway, Carlton and Geelong gave us the blueprint with Gibbs and Kelly and Brisbane set the current market with Cameron.
It’s pick 9 or it’s nothing and he stays. I don’t know his circumstances but I’d absolutely back his professionalism and our support structures for one extra year. If that want something back it should be expletives. They can find currency for Martin from some other sucker. Papley is proven, a leader, still young and there is nothing in the draft in that position that is obviously better.

Jones.... hmmm. I think he’s worth pick 15-25. We know we’ll get unders and also know any future is going to slide massively. I don’t think there is much angle to work with on this trade, either way dont let this drag on and remind them that they owe us. I really wanted us to draft Acres a few years back.... maybe player is the way to go? If picks then try for 18 with something going back. Shit club he’s chosen and a shit trade window to do it too...

Good thoughtful post

It is my long term observation that part of the successful 'Bloods culture' (post Bradshaw) is … if you play in Sydney for Swans you have to want to be there and commit. (In such a diverse sporting city they have to rely on each other more than most.)

If not, the club helps them get out, or doesn't bring them in!

Papley has publicly stated if a deal can't get done he "will be professional" and re-commit.

Swans have the upperhand in the Daniher thing. There is no desperation just diligently go through the process.

Joe is in Italy. Either he don't care coz it is about contract extension$ pressure or he has definitely told Essendon he absolutely does not want to be there, no correspondence direct, FULLSTOP

 

[mikey_san]

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Pressing family reasons my arse!

Not yours, his girlfriend's!

 

[Opts]

i agree

but if sydney are floating reid out i get the feeling they are willing to do 5 9 and reid

reid has to agree though, not sure he would want to go to essendon

Please no! 5&9 is too much by itself. That's what you give up for a Kelly or a Cameron. 9&Reid I could accept.

 

[The King!]

Please no! 5&9 is too much by itself. That's what you give up for a Kelly or a Cameron. 9&Reid I could accept.

It’s 5 and 9 and freeing up cap though I guess

 

[Opts]

i can’t help but feel our list management team has lost the plot wasting time on this Daniher trade. We have a lot of needs in which a key forward is not one. We finally have high end draft picks to properly address our midfield and look set to lose them. Is the marketing team now running recruitment

Well it is all about bums on seats, not premierships.