List Mgmt. 2023 Staying or Going? - Delistings

[bennymate]

I'm gonna wait till after the trade period before losing my s**t over Turner.

 

[Ashley B]

I'm gonna wait till after the trade period before losing my s**t over Turner.

Start preparing benny

 

[north_lad]

Pleased to see we have kept our best player.

Go Roos

 

[DuckYeah]

No surprises to be fair.

 

[The Dingrel]

Just quietly, Howe was easily our best performer in the SUB role this year, and had solid form at VFL level when he wasn’t best 22.

Turner played reasonable roles in all 3 of our wins this year, sets standards at training and is in the right age range.


I know everyone is desperate for these guys to be supplanted by superior players, and they will be - very quickly - but we’re going into next year having lost BMac, Cunnington, Ziebell and Goldstein.

If one of both of them get retained for another year to have a bit of stability at the club I can live with it.

Stop it, this isn’t the place for common sense and well supported factual arguments.

 

[SonofSamsquanch]

A very dark day for Ligma

Did you remove the picture from your Facebook page?

 

[DuckYeah]

Hate on turner all you like. Clarkson is a better coach than all you *s on bigfooty combined

 

[KangaRooster]

Stop it, this isn’t the place for common sense and well supported factual arguments.

My bad, Dingo.

Delist ‘em all and let God sort ‘em out.

 

[travelli]

How is he Mahoney, Bonar and Turner on the list? Crikey

They can all play a role. Depth as the younger guys come through

 

[Gasometer]

Who was it that was going to explode if Turner wasn’t exited?

 

[The Anvil]

So with Perez leaving, we now have realised the outcome that we traded Serong for Powell.....how on earth was that Champion Data clown allowed to play moneyball with pick 8 in the draft.

 

[SonofSamsquanch]

Realistically, the only way to improve a team is to identify players who aren't able to compete at the level above their opponents, who are unable to deliver in the roles assigned or who are of a similar profile with others on the list AND who's contacts are up for renewal / able to be paid out with little pain.

These guys lived the dream for a time. Good luck to them and any others that join them over the next few days. There's no need to kick them on the way out.

 

[Gasometer]

Mahoney was injured most of the year so if AC is true to his word he wants to see how they all go with his own eyes; all of these delists got their chances

 

[Ligma]

Did you remove the picture from your Facebook page?

What?

 

[Rob in Cologne]

That’s 9 players out, assuming we don’t match McKay - and if he wants away we don’t want him.
With Logue injured, Bonar may get a reprieve (break glass in emergency).
Turner works his butt off and I love him, players voted him in leadership too. As others have said he is a role player. Jack Mahoney has had injuries and did his shoulder in a contest with Zak Butters

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Zak Butters

Age

23

Ht

181cm

Wt

77kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.3

4star

K

7.7

3star

HB

6.7

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.6

4star

CL

0.8

3star

D

14.7

4star

K

8.9

4star

HB

5.9

3star

M

3.9

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.1

3star

D

17.0

5star

K

9.0

4star

HB

8.0

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.6

4star

CL

0.6

3star

. Unless anyone in the 50s in the draft looks better Clarko might think he’s worth keeping. In the coaches we must trust
I’d be for bringing in 4-5 in the first 20 drafted, using next year’s PP where possible. After that where do we get another 4-5? Perhaps Clarko is trading someone in? That still means 2-3 Rookie picks.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Howe and Turner should be gone.

But I think that due to the dearth of hardened bodies in that age range, they might need to be on the list.

 

[The Nostradamus]

Howe and Turner should be gone.

But I think that due to the dearth of hardened bodies in that age range, they might need to be on the list.

I’m fine with turner having 1 more year

Not Howe tho, bloke is a spud who should have stayed delisted

 

[Makeshift Park]

I guess it numerically makes sense to keep Bonar, Mahony, Turner and Howe for the time being.

38 on the main list minus Goldy, Cunners, Ziebell, Hall, Mckay, Young, Perez, Spicer = 30 players.

Add George, that's 31 players. Meaning there's room for 7 more.

Take Edwards from the rookie list, and there's only space for 1 more there.

So as things stand, we have space for 8 new players.

Meanwhile we have 2, 3, 15 and 20 in the first round.
41 and 53 in the third.
61 in the fourth.
Plus 19 and 20 next year.

The fourth rounder is probably useless unless its a token pick in a salary dump.

So there are 8 vacancies for the 8 picks.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

I’m fine with turner having 1 more year

Not Howe tho, bloke is a spud who should have stayed delisted

He's our only gut runner through the middle. They're molding Taylor but his tongue is hanging out half the time. Scott's a winger. The kids aren't up to it yet.

 

[DuckYeah]

Who was it that was going to explode if Turner wasn’t exited?

Half this board. Turner must do some right. Perhaps he is first to show last to leave, perhaps players like Baily scott have trained harder because of his leadership? There is something there inside the 4 walls why he keeps getting a gig. Obviously not ripping up the footy field, but is better to have around than not.

 

[DuckYeah]

Maybe Turner has footballing genius whose footy IQ outweighs his physical capabilities? He could be the next Clarko?

 

[Gasometer]

Maybe Turner has footballing genius whose footy IQ outweighs his physical capabilities? He could be the next Clarko?

In real life it’s clear he runs and runs and runs putting opponents under pressure

On the hand he looks a bit like Bailey Fritsch so AC thinks he might start playing like him

 

[DuckYeah]

In real life it’s clear he runs and runs and runs putting opponents under pressure

On the hand he looks a bit like Bailey Fritsch so AC thinks he might start playing like him

Maybe he sees a little bit of himself when looking at him

 

[leighlee13]

Cannot move on Bonar until we have some idea what we are doing with our key defenders. He is not a KP defender but has shown he can at least compete, even against the likes of McKay. Mahoney, Turner and Howe have plenty of competition.

This may change by the end of the trade period but haven't heard many names yet. Corr and Dawson are it right now.

I get that but how useful is it to keep him on the list when he has played 25 games in 5 years and just 2 games this year. I would rather have someone who can actually get on the park.

 

[roos_fanatic08]

2023…gets extra rookie list spots, proceeds to waste said rookie list spots on limited D grade players (Howe & Turner). Despite having no Key Position depth on the list.

2024….gets extra rookie lists spots, proceeds to do the same thing again despite the two above players showing zero notable improvement.

And we wonder why we are a ******* shitshow on the field.