List Mgmt. 2023 Trade & List Management Thread II - Goldy&Bucket➡️✅/'24 EoFR & #44➡️Stephens&#25✅/#21&#25➡️Fisher&#17✅/'24 EoFR➡️#18✅

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[King Hansen]

Trent Bianco deserves to be playing AFL footy.

Always thought Arlo Draper would struggle to adapt to AFL footy, showed highlights of class on juniors but was never able to consistently have an impact. Never settled in one position either.

Cooper Murley seemed like a gun too in his bottom age year.

 

[Passmore]

Bianco doesn't work hard enough

He generally looked like a fish out of water at AFL level.

 

[LB2Snake]

Is he not still contracted?

Out of contract isn’t he?

 

[BlueandWhiteinmyBlood]

Thoughts on James harmes. Big bodied mid that could be useful dishing it out to LDU, TT

Have seen a text from Harmes himself where he states he thinks he is going to the dogs.

 

[Gasometer]

No ooc really that we would want though? Brady didn't look like a man concerned, maybe we have shaken a signed defender free


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In 25 years I am yet to see Rawlings look concerned on or off the field and was stunned to see he actually smiles this morning

 

[Quivorir]

Is that Quivorir

I wish my beard was that full.

 

[kirbonavich]

Need a lot of movement this trade period to cover off our defence.

Ziebel:
488 disposals at 81.8% DE

McKay:
232 disposals at 84.1% DE

Logue:
187 disposals at 80.2% DE

Ziebel's weight of numbers is going to take some replacing. McKays DE shocked me to be fair

Bonar needs to have a breakout year and take Ziebel's defensive spot by the throat.

Draft combine year he had the highest vertical leap, 2nd fastest 20m sprint, 10th in the agility run & 5th in the goal kicking test (25/30). So he has (or had) elite attributes.

 

[r00boy96]

Bonar needs to have a breakout year and take Ziebel's defensive spot by the throat.

I love the wishful thinking and I get you're trying to be positive. Ziebell was a pretty elite kick though most of the time and a very good decision maker. Bonar is neither of those things and I hope he gets delisted.

 

[marklovesbeer]

About 20 goals

 

[marklovesbeer]

Bonar Corr McDonald

It only just set in.

My god.

If the midfield is winning it & the forwards are keeping it down there, the defenders can just chill.

We’ll play finals.

 

[zoomba23]

Need a lot of movement this trade period to cover off our defence.

Ziebel:
488 disposals at 81.8% DE

McKay:
232 disposals at 84.1% DE

Logue:
187 disposals at 80.2% DE

Ziebel's weight of numbers is going to take some replacing. McKays DE shocked me to be fair

Bonar needs to have a breakout year and take Ziebel's defensive spot by the throat.

Draft combine year he had the highest vertical leap, 2nd fastest 20m sprint, 10th in the agility run & 5th in the goal kicking test (25/30). So he has (or had) elite attributes.

All athlete, no footy IQ. Our backline is going to be an absolute sight to behold, barring a coaching miracle that somehow masks its shortcomings in the space of a single preseason. What I wouldn't do for a decent lockdown type and a two way key defender

 

[Better Loosen Up]

Who says no?

WC out: Pick 1 + Pick 20
WC in: Pick 2 + Pick 3

NM out: Pick 2 + Pick 3 + F1 PP + F1 PP
NM in : Pick 1 + Pick 5

GC out: Pick 5
GC in: Pick 20 + F1 PP + F1 PP

WC and NM don't bid on Walter

North 2023 draft hand: Pick 1, 5, 15, 20

Get some player at pick 5 was going to pick at 3
2x F1 PP become redundant next year

No thanks. I'm more than happy with 2 and 3

I'd also rather our 2 x F1 PP's to net us an extra pick or 2 in this years draft so we can get a good bunch of talls that we can develop to compliment our young midfield.

 

[SKD]

Can paperwork be lodged over the weekend?

 

[tiltraise]

What is the projected draft range of the Campo boys?

If its top 10 then Blues F1 should be a target in Fisher trade providing we can increase their points tally for next year.

 

[Lavy_Panther]

Would like us to pick up Haynes for a couple of years and draft Curtin. By the time Curtin is ready to really impact, Haynes will have served his purpose and can ride off into the sunset.

With the holes on our list currently, it's very possible we go backwards next year in terms of competitiveness unless we plug some up.

 

[New_Roo]

Would like us to pick up Haynes for a couple of years and draft Curtin. By the time Curtin is ready to really impact, Haynes will have served his purpose and can ride off into the sunset.

With the holes on our list currently, it's very possible we go backwards next year in terms of competitiveness unless we plug some up.

I'd swap Curtin for O'Sullivan


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[Carey4life]

McKay:
232 disposals at 84.1% DE.

McKays DE shocked me to be fair.

He kicks sideways 20m or long up the line to a contest ...

That's the reason people put too much credit on DE at times as all efficient disposals aren't equal.

 

[roos_fanatic08]

Would like us to pick up Haynes for a couple of years and draft Curtin. By the time Curtin is ready to really impact, Haynes will have served his purpose and can ride off into the sunset.

With the holes on our list currently, it's very possible we go backwards next year in terms of competitiveness unless we plug some up.

The backline is a mess. There is no way we aren’t bottom 4 with the Corr as our best stopper.

 

[franjon]

Xav Clarke would know whether Biggie is worth a crack. Happy to back his judgment.

Has he seen him in action?

 

[rickety]

Can paperwork be lodged over the weekend?

Only if they tick the Penhalluriack box at the bottom of the page

 

[franjon]

He kicks sideways 20m or long up the line to a contest ...

That's the reason people put too much credit on DE at times as all efficient disposals aren't equal.

It's never to the betterment of the position of play, it's always dish off and make it someone else's problem. I'd have loved to hear the bakes under Pagan/Barassi. Carey/Blight/Baker would have destroyed a backman like McKay.

 

[SonofSamsquanch]

Only if they tick the Penhalluriack box at the bottom of the page

Geez Rick you are showing your age. Did you ever bump into Hojuman or Horace buying a bag of nails on a Sunday morning?

 

[shinboner magic]

Twitter link broke:

@CollingwoodFC
has announced the delistings of Trey Ruscoe, Trent Bianco, Tom Wilson, Arlo Draper and Cooper Murley

I’d give ruscoe a go - plays the third tall in defence role and has done it well when given the opportunity.
Just got pushed out by Maynard / Murphy
Can play a role for a few years

 

[Shinboner1]

Would bris take a future first PP for Darcy Gardiner

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Darcy Gardiner

Age

28

Ht

192cm

Wt

91kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.6

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

5.2

4star

M

4.1

4star

T

2.1

4star

MG

196.1

3star

D

10.7

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

2.9

2star

M

3.7

4star

T

2.1

3star

MG

196.1

3star

D

10.2

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

4.2

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.8

4star

? Could be a good stop gap for a few years

 

[Full Chooks]

Who says no?

WC out: Pick 1 + Pick 20
WC in: Pick 2 + Pick 3

NM out: Pick 2 + Pick 3 + F1 PP + F1 PP
NM in : Pick 1 + Pick 5

GC out: Pick 5
GC in: Pick 20 + F1 PP + F1 PP

WC and NM don't bid on Walter

North 2023 draft hand: Pick 1, 5, 15, 20

Get some player at pick 5 was going to pick at 3
2x F1 PP become redundant next year

If we end up with 1 and 5, why should we give out anything more than 2 and 3?

We move up 1 space on one and down 2 on the other. Seems fair to me.

Let the others sort out the rest. Don't be in a rush to give away our picks just because we have a lot of them.