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His away record is why I’d have him behind both Langer and Hayden, just of the recent opening bats.
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Who is saying that? Way to lose credibility as a journalist. Over the last 35 years, it's Taylor, Hayden, Langer, Khawaja/Warner. Swampy Marsh went ok too.
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Man is there any Australian cricketer in the last 40 years who’s reputation doesn’t match his deeds as much as Geoff Marsh?
His namesake Rodney could nearly boast as good a batting record, and he was a keeper.
For a specialist opener, an average of 33 is pretty poor, he scored 3 of his 4 hundreds against pretty shithouse England and India sides and the fourth was against Hadlee and three plodders. You had to be brave playing the Windies but he simply didn’t score many runs when he did it.
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Hayden and Langer didn't have the West Indies in their pomp throughout their entire careers. Both struggled early facing that barrage and were dropped.
Agree that 33 is pretty sub-par these days but Swampy came in when Australian cricket was really s**t!! Kim Hughes finished with an average of 37. Different times facing Holding, Garner, Marshall, Roberts. Then came Ambrose, Walsh, Patterson, Bishop at.al
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Away averages of other openers during Warner’s career:
Ed Cowan: 26.94
Joe Burns: 35.00
Matt Renshaw: 19.12
Cam Bancroft: 26.70
Marcus Harris: 9.67
Warner’s is 32.50. Meanwhile he’s been completely dominant at home.
His away record hugely effects his reputation, but to suggest he has not deserved to play as many tests as he has is laughable.
Also, we seemed to have an arrogance about us now that we think home tests don’t matter and we could roll out with anyone in the shield and win. That is not the case. Warner played most of his career when winning at home was no guarantee. We have needed his home performances and that should not be forgotten.
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I would love to know Warner's stats on who he opened with. I think Rogers complimented him perfectly and they were our best opening combo since Hayden and Langer
Just speaking strictly test cricket , I'm the same.
Like Hussey a career average of 50 is a little generous to him.
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The good old inflated (bit still shoddy) career average trick to try to justify why he was still getting selected a decade later. My math here lay be a little off but I think it's close:
Warner 2012-2015 = 1792 runs at 41.7,
4 centuries
Warner 2016-2023 = 1556 runs at 25.9,
2 centuries
Warner 2016-2023 minus minnow Bangladesh = 1305 runs at 23,
0 centuries
You simply take out his consecutive 2014 series vs South Africa and Pakistan, and his career away average was 27.
So basically any 'respectability' you can find in Warner's away record relies entirely on a purple patch of form in 2014-2015 (he was pretty good against England here too) and a one-off two test series vs non-serious test minnows in 2017.
For the other decade plus - I repeat, more than a f*cking decade - of his career he was not a test standard away opener. Aside from 2014-2015 he was a 23 - 27 away average player, who could not deliver centuries at all against serious test nations.
No better than Cowan or Bancroft and worse than Burns. And the difference of course being they weren't in the team across 14 different years.
If you want to be an apologist and try to rehabilitate Flat Track Davey's image by desperately pointing to 2014 as proof he didn't suck for literally his entire away career, fine, but this doesn't justify him still being in the team into the year 2024.
Just like how we found Khawaja in his right spot, we had plenty of time to experiment and find a better alternative.
I don’t disagree with you but you can’t just remove a team from an analysis because you don’t rate them, when they squared the series, and have competed with basically everyone they’ve hosted for the better part of a decade bar India
BAN have been reasonably competitive at home for about a decade, and those decks were very spin-friendly. Not easy to score runs on.
If anything, the century in the 2nd BAN Test ranks among Warner's best in my book.
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I think Chris Rogers was a better player but he started way too late.
Lol putting Khawaja as one of Australia’s greatest opening batsmen
England openers in the last 40 years to average within 10 of what Khawaja does opening: (2536 runs at 59)
Downtown, Paul
56 runs at 56.
Who the f*** cares where he sits in Australia’s pecking order. He’d walk into any English XI’s since Hutton hung up the gloves.
More pointless shitposting from you…
Wonder how many England openers you can find who average more than Khawaja in tough batting conditions in England …
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Again, in the last 40 years there are literally 3 England openers who average more than Khawaja’s more than respectable 42.4 opening in England, who have actually scored more than 1500 runs there, and one of them you guys thought was so freakish to average 43 you gave him a f**king knighthood
Nice one, again, though.
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For you to accuse someone else of shitposting is the absolute definition of chutzpah.
Lolllllll
Again, in the last 40 years there are literally 3 England openers who average more than Khawaja’s more than respectable 42.4 opening in England, who have actually scored more than 1500 runs there, and one of them you guys thought was so freakish to average 43 you gave him a f**king knighthood
Nice one, again, though.
He averages 31 in England, but nice try.
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