Adrian Dodoro: Football’s Biggest Fraud IMO

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Agree to disagree. Saads form this year has been electric. He's playing well above what he did at Essendon and that's saying something. Likely second in the BnF and that's no mean feat behind the best player in the AFL.

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According to your Carlton Cohort in the Adam Saad thread during that trade period, we were next to no chance to get a top 10 pick for Adam.

He may be worth it, was out of contract and the history of similar players was that a pick inside 16 would be fleecing Carlton. A top 10 pick was a sensational result for us
 

Ambrosia

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Sure, your claiming he's mediocre now but after trade periods/drafts 4-5 years ago you and many other Essendon posters were boldly claiming how amazing he was and fleecing the rest of the comp for bargains.

Probably still claiming that the pick for Saad was a bargain and you're spot on. For Carlton.

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I’ve never claimed Dodoro as a great list manager. Sure he has some good deals in isolation but I don’t think anyone has ever seen him as one of the better list managers in the comp.

Your second sentence makes it seem like you’ve developed a weird complex regarding Dodoro and the trade period.
 

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Ambrosia

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Can't believe we got Hobbs at 13, we had him top 5 on our board

Hope I’m wrong but not the biggest fan. Probably fills out to Parish’s size but is slower and has a less penetrating leg. Not sure what the upside on that sort of player is? Jarryd Lyons maybe?
 

Milanista28

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Hope I’m wrong but not the biggest fan. Probably fills out to Parish’s size but is slower and has a less penetrating leg. Not sure what the upside on that sort of player is? Jarryd Lyons maybe?
Reckon he just wins the ball, and get the feeling he's a big moments kind a guy.
 

Ambrosia

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Agree to disagree. Saads form this year has been electric. He's playing well above what he did at Essendon and that's saying something. Likely second in the BnF and that's no mean feat behind the best player in the AFL.

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I think real missing information is that it wasn’t a normal top 10 pick. The covid impacted surely dragged down the value of draft picks.

Saad’s a gun but look at the Dawson, Langdon, Tuohy, Hibberd and Saad to Essendon trades. Top 10 picks for running defenders is unheard of so I’m assuming that Carlton didn’t place usual top 10 pick value on the pick.
 

Juddernaut08

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I think real missing information is that it wasn’t a normal top 10 pick. The covid impacted surely dragged down the value of draft picks.

Saad’s a gun but look at the Dawson, Langdon, Tuohy, Hibberd and Saad to Essendon trades. Top 10 picks for running defenders is unheard of so I’m assuming that Carlton didn’t place usual top 10 pick value on the pick.
I think an overpay, but we were in a position to do so given all the young talent we had coming into their prime.

It will pay off if we can contend for the next 3-4 years

We have a lot of depth at hbf but saad brings a lot of points of difference due to his speed
 

Tylerbombers

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Probably fills out to Parish’s size but is slower and has a less penetrating leg. Not sure what the upside on that sort of player is? Jarryd Lyons maybe?
Hes taller then Parish so should end up a little bigger. The upside on that sort of player is Selwood or Boak.
 

Juddernaut08

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Peter Wright, he’ll only do that a couple of times a season but otherwise he’s a beyond solid second or even third forward and relief ruck. For his whole final season at Gold Coast he played reserves, wtf goes on at the Suns? Traded for pick 55 or something
salary cap pressures
 

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The 747

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Peter Wright, he’ll only do that a couple of times a season but otherwise he’s a beyond solid second or even third forward and relief ruck. For his whole final season at Gold Coast he played reserves, wtf goes on at the Suns? Traded for pick 55 or something

He's been a great pick up. But sometimes players need to be traded to get a kick up the arse and sometimes players flourish in a different environment.

Bombers have no tall forwards, so he has to be the tall forward target and it has worked out really well.
 

Foucault1989

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Peter Wright, he’ll only do that a couple of times a season but otherwise he’s a beyond solid second or even third forward and relief ruck. For his whole final season at Gold Coast he played reserves, wtf goes on at the Suns? Traded for pick 55 or something
I don't understand why Seven Seater cops so much heat. I think he's a good footballer.
 

Foxx

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Im sure Hobbs running will improve although I dont think its poor atm anyway. Boak and Selwood are still the most similar types to him.
Is his kicking at Selwood and Boaks level. I'm not sure yet. Ollie Wines would be a good benchmark.
At the least right now I can see he is a competitor!
 

Tylerbombers

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Is his kicking at Selwood and Boaks level. I'm not sure yet. Ollie Wines would be a good benchmark.
At the least right now I can see he is a competitor!
The question was "what is his upside". Im not saying he will be able to run as hard as Boak or kick as well as either of them, he could be a complete bust. However they are a similar type of player and what he should be trying to emulate in the future.
 

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Another great trait Hobbs has is a knack for finding space and providing an option, his teammates just haven't been using him but soon will.
 

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