Are South African racial quotas hurting the game?

[Scotland]

People didn't want the government paying for it.

And this is relevant how?

Have been people been lobbying the govt. of RSA not to host international cricket tournaments?

 

[Bomberboyokay]

And this is relevant how?

The government would be paying for it.

 

[Scotland]

The government would be paying for it.

Any danger of relevance to race quotas being introduced?

 

[The_Reaper]

A government executive decision to not fund bids for international tournaments doesn't undercut the last 15 pages of debate.

If I recall correctly a lot of Australian rules fans cracked the shits big time at the Australian Government trying to get the FIFA World Cup, to put things in perspective.

Soccer costs alot more than cricket or rugby. For one the cricket and rugby stadiums already exist

 

[ManWithNoName]

Any danger of relevance to race quotas being introduced?

"Do what we want or we're not giving you our money"

 

[The_Reaper]

Basically that's what 4 white players max in the South African lineup?

AB, Steyn, Faf and Morkel?

 

[ioppolo]

Basically that's what 4 white players max in the South African lineup?

AB, Steyn, Faf and Morkel?

Zimbabwe mk.II

 

[Zach Package]

Apparently the 'ultimate long term goal' of these 'transformation guidelines' is for the quotas to mirror the population, Which would mean 9 Black, 1 white and 1 Asian.

You just have to shake your head when you see Kallis getting flamed on twitter for calling out this bullshit, despite the fact that he runs a cricketing scholarship program for underprivileged black kids.

 

[Rob]

Amazingly athletics is getting called out as well. It's probably got the most objective performance criteria amongst all sports. You pick the fastest runner, the longest or highest jumper and longest thrower.

How the * can you possibly impose racial quotas in athletics???

 

[ioppolo]

Amazingly athletics is getting called out as well. It's probably got the most objective performance criteria amongst all sports. You pick the fastest runner, the longest or highest jumper and longest thrower.

How the **** can you possibly impose racial quotas in athletics???

More whites in the running and jumping.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Amazingly athletics is getting called out as well. It's probably got the most objective performance criteria amongst all sports. You pick the fastest runner, the longest or highest jumper and longest thrower.

How the **** can you possibly impose racial quotas in athletics???

Do they mean that it's a measure of the systems they have in place?

So not so much about the final selection - which as you say is not subjective in athletics - but about the pool of athletes they have/haven't developed.

The final result means they haven't been putting the resources in at lower levels, younger age groups etc.

 

[Rob]

Do they mean that it's a measure of the systems they have in place?

So not so much about the final selection - which as you say is not subjective in athletics - but about the pool of athletes they have/haven't developed.

The final result means they haven't been putting the resources in at lower levels, younger age groups etc.

I doubt it - because that approach takes literally decades, and even then there's no guarantee to actually getting your desired result because only 1 or 2 athletes are picked for any given discipline. Even if 90% of your participants are black then there is absolutely no guarantee that 90% of your best of the best of the best will also be black.

Funnily enough, their 3 best chances at medals in Rio will all be black.

 

[Gough]

84% of under 18s in South Africa are black, it's a political imperative that this is reflected in broader society. Bad luck if you don't like it, join the other whites who fled democracy.

 

[ioppolo]

From what I've read and researched, South Africa's 'Democracy' seems very, very loose.

 

[The Speaker]

84% of under 18s in South Africa are black, it's a political imperative that this is reflected in broader society. Bad luck if you don't like it, join the other whites who fled democracy.

how soviet of you

 

[The_Reaper]

From what I've read and researched, South Africa's 'Democracy' seems very, very loose.

Parliament in South Africa has voted not to impeach President Jacob Zuma, despite a court ruling against him.

 

[ioppolo]

'Democracy'

I just see black supremacy creeping in. But that's ok coz of what whites did in the past, and apartheid.

 

[The_Reaper]

I don't think it's even black supremacy.

Just a corrupt party that is still getting elected based on the connection to Mandela looking for ways to distract the population.

 

[Bomberboyokay]

'Democracy'

I just see black supremacy creeping in. But that's ok coz of what whites did in the past, and apartheid.

You really don't know much about it do you

 

[Bomberboyokay]

I don't think it's even black supremacy.

Just a corrupt party that is still getting elected based on the connection to Mandela looking for ways to distract the population.

The ANC has been losing votes since 2004. They'll lose majority status* eventually. The older voters understandably loyal will keep dying off and post-1994 voters will keep taking their place.

*when Australia didn't have a majority government from 2010-13 a lot of people screamed how horrible it was, by the way

 

[Hellgood]

84% of under 18s in South Africa are black, it's a political imperative that this is reflected in broader society. Bad luck if you don't like it, join the other whites who fled democracy.

Horrendous post.

 

[ioppolo]

I've read from multiple sources that between 50,000-90,000 whites on estimate have been murdered by blacks in recent times. Some of these have been shocking torture murders (one I read was a guy having his head put in a vice clamp and clamped together until it crushed him...after seeing his daughter raped and murdered).

But this is somewhat justified, because "the whites reap what they sow..."

The sooner the ANC is out of power (and Zuma) the better. And Robert Mugabe can't be far off passing surely.

 

[Bomberboyokay]

I've read from multiple sources that between 50,000-90,000 whites on estimate have been murdered by blacks in recent times. Some of these have been shocking torture murders (one I read was a guy having his head put in a vice clamp and clamped together until it crushed him...after seeing his daughter raped and murdered).

But this is somewhat justified, because "the whites reap what they sow..."

Don't share more of your chain emails.

You said in the West Coast's 'Yellow Peril' thread "Racism only applies if you're White mind you". So think you're full of crap.

 

[ioppolo]

Don't share more of your chain emails.

You said in the West Coast's 'Yellow Peril' thread "Racism only applies if you're White mind you". So think you're full of crap.

I haven't received a chain email since high school.

You're one of the ones who could have half their neighbours and family murdered by ISIS supporting Muslims and you'd still say "it's ok, it's not all Muslims".

 

[Rob]

84% of under 18s in South Africa are black, it's a political imperative that this is reflected in broader society. Bad luck if you don't like it, join the other whites who fled democracy.

It worked for Zimbabwe I suppose.