RussellEbertHandball
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Unfortunately Eddie will be there for another decade and then will still stick his nose in.
Toast #BringBackTheBars - Our Heritage, Our History, Our Right! Part 1
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So if hypothetically the AFL said Port, you can wear the Prison Bar strip in all home games on the proviso that you use teal numbers, Port fans would be against this?
I love how Caro goes 'Conflict of interest' re Cardone being a director at PAFC and also working at Ed's Media Company (do you think??) - we need to be at war over this not in bed having directors working with Eddie. There is so much wrong at the moment.
We need to fight it hard from our end, lead the charge (KT + Kochie ???), find someone with deep pockets (??) to throw legal action over it, we also need the AFL to open up the discussion for it (Gillon beholden to the VFL.....??????).
Long road ahead - but one worth traveling.
With the perilous economic circumstances the AFL keeps reminding us of you'd think they'd be out there encouraging clubs to come up with alternative playing strips - like every other professional sporting competition in the world already does - not putting illogical barriers up to clubs raising revenue. I know we're doing this to salute our heritage in our 150th year, but it's a line worth pushing with the AFL commission.
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Absolutely.
The entire reason we want to wear it is to honour the historical significance of the guernsey to our club.
Altering it to suit another club's agenda does nothing but dishonour the guernsey.
Yes, vehemently against it. I would rather never wear it, than wear a bastardised version. To change it to suit an opposition club would utterly shatter the very argument for pushing so hard* to wear it.
*I don't think Port (our Vanilla Board) pushes hard enough.
How much consideration was given to Fitzroy's feelings when the crows entered the afl with the same colours?
They weren't the same. Fitzroy was maroon (actually red), royal blue and gold. Crows are navy blue, red and gold. Royal blue and navy blue are quite different shades.
they weren't maroon in 1990. And arguing the toss over shades shows how petty the whole argument is.
It's not about collingwood it's about our identity. Do you seriously believe that us being able to wear our traditional guernsey will have any affect on your club at all? How many members do you think you will lose to us? How much money do you think you will lose in lost sales because people can't tell the difference between your guernsey and the bars? How many sponsors will accidentally divert money from collingwood to Port because they're confused by the colours? How much of your history will get rubbed out of existence because of what we wear?
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Come one mate, Manchester United and Liverpool don't argue about who gets to wear red. They both acknowledge the storied histories of their respective clubs, respect the others right to wear their home colours at home, and play football against each other for 90 minutes twice a year.
I respect Collingwood as a football club that values very similar ideals to the football club I support. I don't respect the idea that Port should not be able to wear their traditional jumper.
I actually don't think Macguire is on the same page as most collingwood supporters on this issue. Most collingwood supporters i've known over the years don't think their club is so fragile that they need to care about what we wear. And despite the stereotype are smart enough to see that the guernseys aren't the same - and lots of them love the look of ours.
This is more about macguire being a snowflake than any sort of battle between the clubs.
This is more about macguire being a snowflake than any sort of battle between the clubs.
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Port Adelaide chairman David Koch has doubled down on the prison bar guernsey and is pushing to have it used more in the future
Port Adelaide chairman David Koch has said he will continue with a push for the club to wear its famous prison bar jumper in all future Showdowns.
Simeon Thomas-Wilson, Dan Batten, Grady Hudd, The Advertiser. June 4, 2020 12:58pm
Port Adelaide chairman David Koch will continue with a push for the club to wear its prison bar guernsey in all Showdown clashes from next year despite stinging criticism from Collingwood president Eddie McGuire.
After Koch said he would seek AFL approval to wear the historic guernsey in all clashes against Adelaide from next year, McGuire on Footy Classified said Koch was being “disingenuous” to the Port faithful and that he “doesn’t have the guts to tell supporters that wearing the guernsey was an unrealistic ambition.
He also alluded to initiating legal action should the AFL side with Port Adelaide and permit it to wear the black and white strip on a regular basis.
“Well, they can if they want to go to court,” he said.
“If the AFL Commission doesn’t do what it’s there for, ie protect its clubs and its trademarks, then they’re really going to get into (some trouble).”
Port Adelaide chairman David Koch has said he will continue with a push for the club to wear its famous prison bar jumper in all future Showdowns.
Simeon Thomas-Wilson, Dan Batten, Grady Hudd, The Advertiser. June 4, 2020 12:58pm
Port Adelaide chairman David Koch will continue with a push for the club to wear its prison bar guernsey in all Showdown clashes from next year despite stinging criticism from Collingwood president Eddie McGuire.
After Koch said he would seek AFL approval to wear the historic guernsey in all clashes against Adelaide from next year, McGuire on Footy Classified said Koch was being “disingenuous” to the Port faithful and that he “doesn’t have the guts to tell supporters that wearing the guernsey was an unrealistic ambition.
He also alluded to initiating legal action should the AFL side with Port Adelaide and permit it to wear the black and white strip on a regular basis.
“Well, they can if they want to go to court,” he said.
“If the AFL Commission doesn’t do what it’s there for, ie protect its clubs and its trademarks, then they’re really going to get into (some trouble).”
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It has taken 6 years since we last wore it to get to wear it again, and just to broach the idea of wearing on a regular basis, even if only once a year. This might take a good 20 years to get what we rightly should have if it continues at this pace.
RussellEbertHandball
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Unless he chokes on his food a bit earlier.
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Today is a landmark day in the #bringbackthebars movement.
The club has definitively and publicly stated our intention to wear the bars on our terms, forcing the AFL to make a decision. With a public statement from the club, the argument is assessed by the media and the AFL are forced to justify their decision publicly if they deny us, against what will be swelling public opinion, especially if Eddie inserts himself hard into the narrative and turns the general football public against his side.
Congratulations to the people who have done the hard work with the #bringbackthebars campaign, and to everyone who signed the petition. Getting the club on board is the first victory of many.
The club has definitively and publicly stated our intention to wear the bars on our terms, forcing the AFL to make a decision. With a public statement from the club, the argument is assessed by the media and the AFL are forced to justify their decision publicly if they deny us, against what will be swelling public opinion, especially if Eddie inserts himself hard into the narrative and turns the general football public against his side.
Congratulations to the people who have done the hard work with the #bringbackthebars campaign, and to everyone who signed the petition. Getting the club on board is the first victory of many.
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Plus it would look like s**t.
RussellEbertHandball
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Not real, the one posted on the net, but McAlister did write one. Have a look at
News - 11 June 2020 - Restarting the 2020 AFL season
9 did the Thursday night, Friday night and Sunday game and Foxtel the other games. I saw Thursday and Friday nights and they seemed to have a good balance. Where the other games similar? Better? Worse than those 2? I only saw the games on FOXTEL so I cannot compare them with the NINE coverage...
www.bigfooty.com
and
News - 11 June 2020 - Restarting the 2020 AFL season
9 did the Thursday night, Friday night and Sunday game and Foxtel the other games. I saw Thursday and Friday nights and they seemed to have a good balance. Where the other games similar? Better? Worse than those 2? I only saw the games on FOXTEL so I cannot compare them with the NINE coverage...
www.bigfooty.com
and the extract from the book Destiny - How Port Adelaide Put Itself on the National Stage, published late 2018 or early 2019 by Dr/Prof Norman Ashton.
News - 11 June 2020 - Restarting the 2020 AFL season
The letter was reproduced in the book that was published in the last year or two about our entry to the afl (not home so can't check name and author) I believe the content to be accurate. If that's so, and I do not doubt it, it is ridiculously bad that they mocked it up like that. What on...
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Reversing this exact post also shows how much preventing Port Adelaide using its most famous and popular guernsey impacts negatively on the club, and its supporters.
Do you seriously believe that us not being able to wear our traditional guernsey will not have any affect on our club at all? How many members do you think we will lose? How much money do you think we will lose in lost sales because people can't wear the bars? How many sponsors will accidentally divert money from collingwood to Port because they're confused by the colours? How much of our history will get rubbed out of existence because of what we can't wear?
Port wearing the Prison Bars, even as regularly as every home game, and every away game, except against Collingwood has no negative impact on Collingwood. Not being able to wear them limits Port's ability to recognise its traditions, please and retain members, and maintain revenue streams. No reasonable person can build a case that Collingwood, its brand, history, popularity, or traditions is impacted negatively. The same certainly cannot be said about Port.
An impartial, balanced, AFL Commission encouraging clubs to find ways of being financially stable would rule in favour of Port.
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Eddie everywhere can ramble on as much as he likes, but I suspect the PB guernsey being many times better than the rather bland wobbler design, which as has already been pointed out by NoddyHolder is extremely similar to that of the Hawks and North, is the major reason behind his push to keep it from view on the national stage.
The more Eddie declines and kicks up a stink the more drive and passion I feel towards the guernsey. He is doing himself and his club more harm than good.
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