Preview Changes and prematch discussion vs Carlton

[Forever North]

The only positive at the moment is that the pandemic is minimising the anger, frustration and misery of our season. In a normal season the club would be copping it far worse from every angle and fans would be more livid. It‘s a good time to be shite then. I think the players are trying but we have no confidence, are slow, unskilled and bland. Our leadership is also a massive problem. It’s the perfect chance for Carlton to do a number on us I reckon.

 

[amaz199]

I think to beat Carlton we have to seriously get back to basics about the way we move the ball.

I went on a bit of a research hunt and found some videos of our games from 2016, 2017, 2018, and 2019. What was evident in those games I was looking at was the ability to get numbers behind the ball, ready to push forward for a counter-attack. Now Shaw has done this sort of tactic last year and Brad Scott even used this tactic countless times in his best seasons (14, 15 and 16). So back to that counter-attack movement, it involved one of Atley or Macmillan to push-up juuust behind the contest to be that extra man to just manically run forward for the linkup. Eventually what happens is if the last kick inside 50 is a shank, the numbers that pushed up now become a threat to the ball carrier that intercepted, and all of a sudden an easy exit is not as easy as it looks with numbers covering the flanks.

We beat Carlton by bringing numbers to the contest, meaning we push-up and stop the quick play before Carlton can get it out. It's risky because those 'extra' numbers could be marked, but it covers our F50 defensive deficiencies whilst we get the players we need back. It also makes opposition more defensively accountable. Which we haven't done at all since Rd 2.

In the videos I looked at, more often than not, regardless of the disposal, we scored from it.

You can be defensive af Rhyce, but if you're not making opponents worried about defending. You are gifting them the game.

 

[Cyber_punk]

The only positive at the moment is that the pandemic is minimising the anger, frustration and misery of our season. In a normal season the club would be copping it far worse from every angle and fans would be more livid. It‘s a good time to be sh*te then.

Is it though? Flying off the radar and no pressure won't exactly bring change quicker. Have the boys become complacent because they know the new coach has a honeymoon period for at least another year?

 

[tazaa]

To follow on from what Mastermind said, definitely the game on Saturday night wasn’t like other disastrous results in our history like playing Brisbane 2004, Adelaide 2006, Geelong 2009 and 2011 or St Kilda under Ross. Even Collingwood under Malthouse. We had shown glimpses and an ability to match it with good sides in those times. Even in 2017 we beat Adelaide and pushed Geelong.

Saturday nights game stood out as it was the perfect combination for so many factors to come together and form the perfect loss.

COVID 19, hub life, whole team in a form slump, Brown out of form, massive injury list, Metricon hoodoo, dewy weather, weaker Richmond lineup, shortened quarters and inability to score.

Our best 22 could have taken the field Saturday night and still have lost. That’s how bad this is.
I’d rather we have hubbed in Perth. Least we’re 1-1 there and have some support.

 

[ChoppyGun]

Brown's confidence is shot. Any other time, I'd drop him to the VFL. However there isn't a VFL, so I think we just need to back him in again. Hopefully if we get some decent delivery, he can snag a couple and get his confidence up.

I agree Brown massively struggling. That is obvious and lacks confidence.

But with our forward entries (which take 5 minutes to move from HB to him) its simply impossible to be too harsh.

If I was at war with an aircraft an engine down (Waite gone, now Larkey), that is a model i suspect I and 99% of others would go down in flames also.

 

[ChoppyGun]

Out: Macmillan, Ziebell, Mahony, Hayden
In Daw, Zurhaar, Turner, LDU

Larkey in the week after

Hayden stays (If fit to play)

The year is shot.

Our 200gamer complete deer in headlights (Atley) must go before Hayden if we are serious on rebuilding.

 

[bennymate]

what is yuck about that is that we then wasted 18 and 19 still not being good enough for anything and not properly rebuilding.

And if this continues it will be the downfall of the club.

 

[goalieboy82]

Coach Scamper's training this week:
1: catch Tilly while she is running (she acts wild when i go over to my mom and dad's place)
2: keep running until you hit the horizon then turn back and do it the same the other way.

 

[Friday Night Lights]

People are off their meds if they think LDU is coming in this week off the back of one 12 a side scratch match for the calendar year.

 

[Waussie]

Hayden stays (If fit to play)

The year is shot.

Our 200gamer complete deer in headlights (Atley) must go before Hayden if we are serious on rebuilding.

He'd have to have passed a littany of test before that can happen.

 

[Hojuman]

He'd have to have passed a littany of test before that can happen.

Kyron misses a week or two. Safety first. Bring in Murph.

 

[Heaps of fun]

People are off their meds if they think LDU is coming in this week off the back of one 12 a side scratch match for the calendar year.

There wasn't a scratchie on the weekend?

 

[New_Roo]

There wasn't a scratchie on the weekend?

No


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[The Nostradamus]

There wasn't a scratchie on the weekend?

They had an extra training session instead

So he’s got enough training load into him

 

[Heaps of fun]

No


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Damn, that's a shame. Terrible year for player development.

 

[Hojuman]

Damn, that's a shame. Terrible year for player development.

Perfect storm for us this year;
. New coach and coaching panel
. New C.E.O.
. Covid
. Injuries
. No V.F.L.
. Interstate hub
. More injuries
. Another hub ( Tas. ? )
. Poor monetary returns
. Dees win flag !

 

[Tectonic]

Throw Brown in the ruck to start the game.

He gets a good run at the ball, forced contact, can actually touch the footy and his 1 handed technique at the moment for marking attempts will transfer nicely.

 

[FiftyFive50]

I've been reading the Carlton thread and they're shitting bricks, I think we will come back firing but unless zurhaar or larkey are back I only see Ben Brown flopping his arms around like one of them inflatable dolls at a car yard and us scoring another 2 goals.

 

[LuvtheKangas]

People are off their meds if they think LDU is coming in this week off the back of one 12 a side scratch match for the calendar year.

We'll see whether or not these "people" are correct in a few days. Has more to do with the Match Committee than the medical state of posters, I'd suggest.

 

[Thndr]

One at least for mine as a no brainer, thinking on the rest ...

Out : Wood
In : Hosie.

 

[ChoppyGun]

We'll see whether or not these "people" are correct in a few days. Has more to do with the Match Committee than the medical state of posters, I'd suggest.

As long as not a significant risk of injury and he's healed, even if his fitness base not quite ready i'd still definitely play LDU this week for a set % of time.

I want to see the team evolve and clearly LDU is a big part of that especially with no VFL.

 

[KnaveyBlue]

I've been reading the Carlton thread and they're shitting bricks

Of course we are. Your players go absolutely flipping mental against us every goddamn time.

 

[Horizons_00]

People are off their meds if they think LDU is coming in this week off the back of one 12 a side scratch match for the calendar year.

Just as crazy as Zeebs coming back after a “2 week” hammy with no scratch match

 

[LuvtheKangas]

Of course we are. Your players go absolutely f*n mental against us every goddamn time.

Unfortunately, most of our mental play this season has resulted in us delivering the ball to our opponents.

 

[kool kangas]

In : back and forward line coaches
Out: whoever is doing it at the moment...unless its Rhyce...