Preview Changes: R4 vs Brisbane

[Bob Neil]

FB: Doedee - Talia - Murphy
HB: Smith - McAsey - Hamill
C: Sloane - Poholke - Gallucci
HF: McAdam - Himmelberg - Schoenberg
FF: Brown - Fogarty - Crocker
FOLL: O'Brien - Jones - McHenry
INT: Crouch (Matt) - Crouch (Brad) - Kelly - Laird

Out: Walker, Lynch, Seedsman, Atkins (inj.), Keays
In: Poholke, Gallucci, Himmelberg, Schoenberg, McAdam

Ideas:

1. Let's try a different first choice midfield and stick Jones, McHenry and Poholke in the guts and Gallucci on a wing and give them an opportunity (with Schoenberg also getting a run); the Crouches plus Sloane can play second fiddle.
2. Let's try a different forward structure with Himmelberg a tall target (plus genuine ruck chop-out), Fogarty the key leading target in F50, McAdam and Crocker as mid-sized targets to run up and back (ala Lynch).
3. From the 'nothing to lose' pile I suggest switching Brown and Murphy...we know Brown is still our first-choice small lockdown back pocket but we've never really developed a protege...plus Murphy has shown he's simply not up to the job in the forward lines so rather than (or before) discarding him let's give him one last chance in a position in which he's supposedly shown promise in SANFL/U18s.
4. Let's try a different defensive set up that has some genuine speed (Smith, Hamill, Murphy) and the prospect of a bit more dare and penetration in our kicking.
5. It's both sending a message and facing reality that for some senior players they've reached the end (Walker, Lynch) and for others (Seedsman) they need to treat every opportunity as if its their last.

 

[Thetrader15]

Rowe said an interesting thing on AA tonight. No idea if it was true but he said "I messaged Brad after the game and said I hope your cheek is ok, and Brad replied with "who cares".

Made me think twice about his commitment after hearing that.

I think his point was 'who cares about my cheek, we are getting flogged every game. That's what I'm concerned about, not a bruise Rowie".

 

[BACCS]

I think his point was 'who cares about my cheek, we are getting flogged every game. That's what I'm concerned about, not a bruise Rowie".

Yeah it was in reference to his black eye, context is pretty important.

 

[crows dude]

Is that just code for "I paid my Norwood membership so now I can go to the footy"

Surely every member can go? Isn't it 5k crowd?

Yep need the footy fix of a live match. It is 5000 each day. I heard it was under subscribed so everyone in the Ballot got a ticket and that they would release more via ticketek.

Tickets on sale for Round 1 SANFL Statewide Super League - SANFL

sanfl.com.au

 

[Betts are off]

Actually wouldn't mind to have Himmelberg in the side this week. I'll admit i've been off him lately because he marks the ball about as well as the Titanic floated on her maiden run.

But he does provide a contest against absolutely everyone he's standing next to. And usually will half the contest (which is probably why he would be a substantially better CHB then CHF, but hey, why would we play our players to their strengths right?).

Against Harris Andrews though, who I feel is one of the best key defenders in the league, having a ferocious contest splitter might not be the worst thing. Would certainly be more useful then Tex going up 1 handed against Harris who is clearly faster, taller, stronger, more agile and reads the ball better then him....

 

[Golumless]

Actually wouldn't mind to have Himmelberg in the side this week. I'll admit i've been off him lately because he marks the ball about as well as the Titanic floated on her maiden run.

But he does provide a contest against absolutely everyone he's standing next to. And usually will half the contest (which is probably why he would be a better CHB then CHF, but that's another story altogether).

Against Harris Andrews though, who I feel is one of the best key defenders in the league, having a ferocious contest splitter might not be the worst thing. Would certainly be more useful then Tex going up 1 handed against him....

I do think the ability to halve nearly every contest is an incredibly underrated ability as a forward. It does allow the opportunity to bring the smalls in the game, which if done properly, could see the ball locked in your forward 50 (on top of their own scoring abilities). Whereas you are just hoping the player who marks the ball doesn't show urgency to break out of defence otherwise.

Sure you'd rather a mark, but in an age where you'll always 2 v 1 as a deep forward, the ability to not make it easy for an opponent is rather valuable. Though hopefully a bit of extra fitness allows his hands to get better.

 

[Barneythecrab]

A forward line of:

Stengel berg crocker
McAdam fog Davis

Would give me a bit of a stiffy.

 

[Vader]

I do think the ability to halve nearly every contest is an incredibly underrated ability as a forward. It does allow the opportunity to bring the smalls in the game, which if done properly, could see the ball locked in your forward 50 (on top of their own scoring abilities). Whereas you are just hoping the player who marks the ball doesn't show urgency to break out of defence otherwise.

Sure you'd rather a mark, but in an age where you'll always 2 v 1 as a deep forward, the ability to not make it easy for an opponent is rather valuable. Though hopefully a bit of extra fitness allows his hands to get better.

Such a pity we don't have any crumbing smalls to be "brought into the game".

 

[Jcpdragonx]

FWIW

id drop Laird, Atkins, M Crouch, B Crouch
Bring in McAdam, Schoenberg, Gibbs, Davis

walker back, fish forward
Tell Gibbs here’s his chance. Snap out of it or don’t

Get off the weed mate. He's had enough chances.

 

[Golumless]

Such a pity we don't have any crumbing smalls to be "brought into the game".

Considering McAdam is probably debuting this week, we would have one who would potentially thrive. Stengle when he gets back from suspension is another.

I would not be against throwing one or two rookie picks at small forwards this off-season though.

 

[Vader]

Considering McAdam is probably debuting this week, we would have one who would potentially thrive.

I'll wait and see what McAdam brings to the table. Stengle is a decent crumbing forward. Murphy is not. Betts was, but he's no longer on our list.

 

[Pugsley]

A forward line of:

Stengel berg crocker
McAdam fog Davis

Would give me a bit of a stiffy.

No he has retired but I do miss Graham.

 

[cleanhands]

A forward line of:

Stengel berg crocker
McAdam fog Davis

Would give me a bit of a stiffy.

You must be a little like myself and need som help

 

[Betts are off]

I do think the ability to halve nearly every contest is an incredibly underrated ability as a forward. It does allow the opportunity to bring the smalls in the game, which if done properly, could see the ball locked in your forward 50 (on top of their own scoring abilities). Whereas you are just hoping the player who marks the ball doesn't show urgency to break out of defence otherwise.

Sure you'd rather a mark, but in an age where you'll always 2 v 1 as a deep forward, the ability to not make it easy for an opponent is rather valuable. Though hopefully a bit of extra fitness allows his hands to get better.

Exactly. And lets be honest, our mids have seemingly lost all ability to kick to advantage, so a tall fwd who can scrap a contest is worth his weight in gold.

Also I hope Berg can prove me wrong as well. If he could clunk a few grabs occasionally i'd be happy to play him every week. He just went through a patch we're he was dropping literally everything.

 

[Jcpdragonx]

Gibbs seems and has seemed devoid of confidence for a long time

FMD, his introduction to the club was the camp and Burtons fitness program .. the football department/coaches completely f’ed his head

He's by far the worst player in the AFL. Football department has had a negative impact on everyone, but Gibbs has forgotten how to kick a footy.

 

[Mutineer]

I'll wait and see what McAdam brings to the table. Stengle is a decent crumbing forward. Murphy is not. Betts was, but he's no longer on our list.

McAdam if and when his body is ever right brings far more to the table than Stengle, he's quicker, more agile and a real aerial threat something Stengle will never have in his kit.

 

[Apsaalooke]

That may be coming when Stengle is allowed back, though I imagine we'll make him play reserves games for at least a fortnight once his suspension is over.

I think he's already playing reserves now

 

[Mutineer]

Actually wouldn't mind to have Himmelberg in the side this week. I'll admit i've been off him lately because he marks the ball about as well as the Titanic floated on her maiden run.

But he does provide a contest against absolutely everyone he's standing next to. And usually will half the contest (which is probably why he would be a substantially better CHB then CHF, but hey, why would we play our players to their strengths right?).

Against Harris Andrews though, who I feel is one of the best key defenders in the league, having a ferocious contest splitter might not be the worst thing. Would certainly be more useful then Tex going up 1 handed against Harris who is clearly faster, taller, stronger, more agile and reads the ball better then him....

"a ferocious contest splitter"
That doesn't describe the Eliott Himelberg I've been watching these last few years, more chance Big Bad Billy brings what you've described to the table than the Berg.

 

[Vader]

I think he's already playing reserves now

Shouldn't be, given that he's serving a suspension (albeit club imposed).

 

[SaltPeter]

Shouldn't be, given that he's serving a suspension (albeit club imposed).

Pretty sure they said he could play any of the scratch matches.

 

[cleanhands]

"a ferocious contest splitter"
That doesn't describe the Eliott Himelberg I've been watching these last few years, more chance Big Bad Billy brings what you've described to the table than the Berg.

Did bring a smirk to my face

 

[jackster83]

Rowie blaming ROB again as we speak.

I'm guessing the 5AA Crouch boys have been complaining about him again.

 

[Thetrader15]

Yeah it was in reference to his black eye, context is pretty important.

But doesn't always suit the narrative

 

[hey shorty]

Rowie blaming ROB again as we speak.

I'm guessing the 5AA Crouch boys have been complaining about him again.

Not sure he's blaming him, more so he's saying what he does and doesn't do well.

What I'd do.

McAdam for Laird, Murphy goes back
Sholl for Atkins
Poholke for Matt
MacPherson from for Seeds, Doedee upfield
Frampton for Walker

Jones plays midfield and Sloane goes forward.

 

[Thetrader15]

Exactly. And lets be honest, our mids have seemingly lost all ability to kick to advantage, so a tall fwd who can scrap a contest is worth his weight in gold.

Also I hope Berg can prove me wrong as well. If he could clunk a few grabs occasionally i'd be happy to play him every week. He just went through a patch we're he was dropping literally everything.

I think people need to look closely at Tex.

Mids who can't kick to advantage and out numbered on most occassions, usually gets the ball to ground...where there are no forwards crumbing and the 2 in 1 sweep the ball away making Tex look slow.