Prediction Changes: Round 13 Vs Richmond + prematch discussion

[muzzington]

I don’t want to knock the guy

Out Sturt
I’m done with that experiment
Literally offers nothing

 

[Madas]

Yes, but half the board don’t know what they're talking about.

And the other half do ?

 

[Footskill]

TBH after performances like yesterday, he is doing a pretty good job of writing himself off. If that were some others on our list, half the board would be writing "delist now".
I think Corbett would offer more at this stage as a forward/sub.

Yep. I like Sturt, but the leeway he gets on here is too much. They say there is no-one to bring in that Sturt is ahead of, but when they were calling to drop banners and bring in Sturt , Corbett etc, where they now lol

 

[Madas]

Yep. I like Sturt, but the leeway he gets on here is too much. They say there is no-one to bring in that Sturt is ahead of, but when they were calling to bring in Sturt, Corbett etc, where they now lol

Agree
Is Erasmus actually injured?
He would eat that forward line up and provide a rotation for the mids

 

[Joao]

If he really only played 40% game time then 5 touches is about right for a pressure forward.

I'd say the biggest knock on him yesterday was he fumbled a couple of times, but again that's not a surprise given the step up in intensity from a bye at Peel to that game.

This has been said a thousand times but gets forgotten every time he plays - nobody is saying Sturt is a jet, what we say is that he should be given a decent run of opportunities to prove he can play, opportunities literally every other small in the team got and that he hasn't to date.

You can "I told you so" only after he actually gets that chance and fails. Doing it now just proves you weren't listening when we said it the last 500 times.

 

[Madas]

Ok
I should have added “personally “ I wouldn’t knock him
Just don’t really want him in my team if there are other options
Walters , Corbett , Erasmus hell even Henry would be better

 

[Madas]

If he really only played 40% game time then 5 touches is about right for a pressure forward.

I'd say the biggest knock on him yesterday was he fumbled a couple of times, but again that's not a surprise given the step up in intensity from a bye at Peel to that game.

This has been said a thousand times but gets forgotten every time he plays - nobody is saying Sturt is a jet, what we say is that he should be given a decent run of opportunities to prove he can play, opportunities literally every other small in the team got and that he hasn't to date.

You can "I told you so" only after he actually gets that chance and fails. Doing it now just proves you weren't listening when we said it the last 500 times.

His opportunity was last year when we were bereft of forwards and he was fit .
Time and tide wait for no man

 

[Alfonz]

I don’t want to knock the guy but I just don’t think he’s got the killer instinct to make it at this level.
I don’t see enough pressure or game awareness that I see in other debut players.

Look at my boy Arthur Jones at the dogs , played like 5 games .
Runs around like a maniac trying to get a touch , that’s what I want to see.
I could name 20 others but CBF , hope he proves me wrong but I’m not seeing it and I don’t think I’m alone .

They are completely different players. A lead up medium forward versus a small forward.

And Jones started with 5-9-5-9 touches before he moved into the dozen touches range (with one game of 6 touches still in there). Sturt has not been afforded that luxury. There's every chance if he had played against Hawthorn then he would have got 12 touches and kicked 1 or 2 goals, and then been away.

Ash Johnson is the player I personally think compares the closest with Sturt. Johnson routinely has games like Sturt has been playing for Freo. He is probably on the edge of being dropped by Collingwood, but they have kept him in the side.

 

[Joao]

Ok
I should have added “personally “ I wouldn’t knock him
Just don’t really want him in my team if there are other options
Walters , Corbett , Erasmus hell even Henry would be better

Nobody thinks Sturt should play over Walters.

Corbett isn't like for like - he is more likely this week if we replace Darcy with a tall
Erasmus isn't a forward and doesn't play there for Peel
And I am guessing you don't remember Henry playing in the forwardline where he's had more chances than Sturt and done a lot less.

His opportunity was last year when we were bereft of forwards and he was fit .
Time and tide wait for no man

If that were true they would have delisted him. There is something there and his intensity is miles up this year and that is obvious.

 

[Hazelsnuts]

Ras shits all over Sturt for effort and defensive accountability- played high half forward and mid at Subiaco….
At AFL level has played exclusively as a mid and at times last year across half back….
He is definitely not slow, I don’t know where that comes from, he has looked gassed at times, due to the ground he covers…
Sturt never looks gassed because he has no accountability and doesn’t cover the ground
For me I would play Erasmus 10 out of 10 times ahead of Sturt.

 

[kingswood71]

Nobody thinks Sturt should play over Walters.

Corbett isn't like for like - he is more likely this week if we replace Darcy with a tall
Erasmus isn't a forward and doesn't play there for Peel
And I am guessing you don't remember Henry playing in the forwardline where he's had more chances than Sturt and done a lot less.


If that were true they would have delisted him. There is something there and his intensity is miles up this year and that is obvious.

Corbett and Sturt would be like for like though? They are both 190cm.

 

[Footskill]

If he really only played 40% game time then 5 touches is about right for a pressure forward.

I'd say the biggest knock on him yesterday was he fumbled a couple of times, but again that's not a surprise given the step up in intensity from a bye at Peel to that game.

This has been said a thousand times but gets forgotten every time he plays - nobody is saying Sturt is a jet, what we say is that he should be given a decent run of opportunities to prove he can play, opportunities literally every other small in the team got and that he hasn't to date.

You can "I told you so" only after he actually gets that chance and fails. Doing it now just proves you weren't listening when we said it the last 500 times.

Don't think carrot farmer will agree with you wth is he in the team for

 

[Rhufus]

Seems like two different philosophies being displayed by BF posters and selection depends on which camp u r in.

Theres the “play the next best available player and shuffle all the magnets to suit” camp. These posters want a Sturt or a Kuek or a Ras to come in to replace Darcy. They will shuffle Fyfe Treacy and the Unicorn to fit in their fave.

Then theres the “leave the magnets exactly where they are and just bring in the next best like for like”. Sort of like the stretcher bearers in the Ben Hur chariot scene. These posters want to leave everyone in their winning positions and disrupt as few as possible when a soldier goes down.

Darcy down, bring in Reidy, message to the Triple J’s: “no change to the game plan.” Keep working on your chemistry.

 

[Sweetback]

I would go Erasmus in for Darcy. Jackson as first ruck, Treacy as second ruck and forward, Fyfe as a roaming chf, and Erasmus to midfield, with a bit of forward time. That sort of gives us the same structure we have been working with successfully.

If Sonny is fit, I hate to say this, I would go Sonny in Drizzy out and Freddie to the wing. I am a Drizzy fan, but he is not doing enough at the moment.

I thought Drizzy did enough to stay in. He set up a couple of goals, created a few turnovers just by getting to the contest and using his reach and leap to intervene. I don’t think he’s far off

 

[s_wd6]

I thought Drizzy did enough to stay in. He set up a couple of goals, created a few turnovers just by getting to the contest and using his reach and leap to intervene. I don’t think he’s far off

He is like 80% of the way there. There is no benefit in dropping him and shuffling someone else to the wing. He gets himself in good positions, especially defensively, and I highly doubt anyone else on our list could do a better job at the moment.

 

[Arkhitect]

Does Richmond run with 1 or 2 rucks? Jackson should be fine rucking against Nankervis if Treacy can give him the occasional chop out.

Out: Darcy
In: Erasmus

I'd bring in a midfielder for extra legspeed. The sub can be used to reward someone who's playing well at Peel. Maybe we'll even see another debut.

 

[Jezzitizle]

Does Richmond run with 1 or 2 rucks? Jackson should be fine rucking against Nankervis if Treacy can give him the occasional chop out.

Out: Darcy
In: Erasmus

I'd bring in a midfielder for extra legspeed. The sub can be used to reward someone who's playing well at Peel. Maybe we'll even see another debut.

Soldo + Nankervis

 

[Sweetback]

He is like 80% of the way there. There is no benefit in dropping him and shuffling someone else to the wing. He gets himself in good positions, especially defensively, and I highly doubt anyone else on our list could do a better job at the moment.

Yeah he’s definitely building and his size and pace makes him a problem while he’s doing it

 

[Sturty2Hurty]

So many options. I'm hoping for a Kuek debut.

 

[FreoRicci]

Schulz didn’t even have a touch in the first half.

It was a dirty tough day for a small/medium forward. Pressure was nuts.
Sturt did okay, could’ve been the hero before Banfield’s goal just couldn’t get it out for the handball.

Frederick is more worrying tbh. He was overrunning every loose ball, pushed off easily, poor possession. He had a horrid game apart from the goal.

 

[Docker82]

Soldo + Nankervis

Has Soldo played a single game this season?

They’re running with Nankervis and Samson Ryan atm. Ryan is ruckman height but is more of forward/ruck at this stage.

Edit: Soldo has played a single game this season - just the one.

 

[Jezzitizle]

Has Soldo played a single game this season?

They’re running with Nankervis and Samson Ryan atm. Ryan is ruckman height but is more of forward/ruck at this stage.

Sorry you’re right, grabbed the wrong team list from today.

 

[ilikepotatoes]

Out: Darcy, O'Meara (if suspended)
In: Walters (if fit), Erasmus

 

[Docker82]

Surely there’s no way JOM gets suspended. The action was barely worth a free kick.

 

[FreoRicci]

Has Soldo played a single game this season?

They’re running with Nankervis and Samson Ryan atm. Ryan is ruckman height but is more of forward/ruck at this stage.

Nankervis is a beast. Need protection. Reidy being selected in the draft was for this very reason.
Even at 40-50% game time, it’s crucial for structure.
Can’t see Kuek being selected BUT never know. If the coaches prefer Treacy as ruck/forward, could see Kuek as the third tall. Man he would be fun to watch.