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So prove it wrong. Come on, show me. Where's your proof. I've provided a source, come on now, show me your proof?
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So prove it wrong. Come on, show me. Where's your proof. I've provided a source, come on now, show me your proof?
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We're a rabble of a club with only premierships to console ourselves.
C'mon. It's Fox. It's a source.
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Yeah we’ve got a few ourselves.
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Hawthorn supporters b**thurt because they know they are heading south.
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Hawks finished 4th and ess 11th yet ess is closer to winning a flag!!
Big footy at its best. Some teams are awesome in the off season before reality hits.
Big footy at its best. Some teams are awesome in the off season before reality hits.
Wild bill following another essendon related thread to throw another unwanted opinion. Some trolls are awesome in the off season.
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7 spots is a big difference. It’s the same between Ess and the Blues this year.
Should the Blues think they are closer than Ess to a flag? Or is it just when it suits your team?
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You blokes are better placed too.
As are Adelaide, the Lions...
Come now Billy boy, you know as well as I do that the finishing position of one year is far from an indicator of the relative strength of lists going forward.
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What exactly about his post was trolling?
Just more I am sick of him following every essendon thread for 5 years with negative comments. See user history if required.
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Top 4 is a good indicator. You can’t be weak and finish top 4. Hatred is making you under rate them.
I wouldn’t write off any team with Clarkson coaching.
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But they didn't finish top 4.
They finished fifth - were trounced actually once put under finals pressure.
And Clarkson is, in my firm view - really all they have. That list is so poor as to be non-competitive with most decent sides without Clarko at the helm.
Or I’ll just call you out for poor posting when I see it with the aim to reduce troll engagement.
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I think you have gone over the top - Mitchell won the Brownlow last year - Wingard, Breust and Gunston are extremely dangerous forwards. Sicily and Stratton down back are guns. Smith and Scully could be the best wing combos in the comp if they get Scully going. They beat you twice this year - even when you were playing your best footy.
I wouldn’t be surprised at all if they finish in the top 6 again.
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Let me ask you a question, do you reckon you could list a similar list of players for another club? I'll do Essendon, purely from a position of familiarity, using your exact words and just replacing names (and the Brownlow reference obviously) - but I'd invite you to do the same for any number of sides.
"Shiel moved across this year - Stringer, Fantasia and Daniher are extremely dangerous forwards. Saad and Hurley down back are guns. Merrett and McGrath could be the best wing combos in the comp if they get McGrath going. They beat the Eagles this year, eventual premiers, at home, and did it easy."
My point here is, just about any side could be manipulated to make a list of 7-8 players that are of course impressive - most teams have them.
The difference is, most decent lists can fill that out substantially. What do they have beyond the names you've mentioned - and I'm not talking hopes and dreams, but actual players?
Burgoyne? Absolutely. Unquestionably. But he's 34.
JOM? Yeah ok, but Heppell shits all over him. Forget JOM's wicked guns, and the Shortsteppell Schtick; Heppell is a FAR superior player on output.
Shiels? Yeah, can play. Is he any better than Zaharakis. I mean, really? I pick Zaharakis deliberately too - what is he, sixth, maybe seventh in line in our midfield now?
Who else? Impey? Ok sure. McEvoy? Well ok, yeah. Henderson? Sure, starting to struggle a bit now for players.
Hooker, McKenna, Walla, Smith, Bellchambers - these are players that have unquestionably performed at a high level already, and with the exception of Bellchambers (due to teams playing a single ruck) would almost certainly walk in to the best 22 of any side in the game.
Then you go to the blokes that look like they have long careers ahead of them, not based on hopes and dreams but actually putting games together in Langford, Parish, Gleeson, Redman, Guelfi - and my personal favourite, Aaron Francis, who looks like he's about to embarrass both SA sides.
Not sure where to put Myers - can obviously play, but injuries, ya know...
Then getting in to the speculative, but if you'd watched closely look the goods - BZT, Ridley, Begley, Draper (seriously, keep your eyes peeled, this bloke will be a gun).
The Hawks simply DO NOT have that.
Now for clarity sake, this isn't a big swinging dick Essendon post (though I did enjoy typing it) - I'd actually love to see you do a North one, because it's the same. It's to illustrate the reason I think Hawthorn's list is crap, and why Shiel chose Essendon (and even Carlton) over the Hawks.
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Great - I get to call you out for being a sook in the aim to reduce sooking.
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Eagles played finals - won a final in 2017. Richmond was the only bolter. Like the Dogs winning the flag from the bottom 4 of the 8 - its the exception more than the rule.
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Why did Wingard choose Hawthorn if we are so bad?
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He did?
Seems to me he was damn near booted from Port.
In addition, Hawthorn reeked of desperation after Lynch and Shiel both chose teams in better shape to go to.
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Because Essendon pulled out of the race.
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