Consumer Electronics Group project - build a new city

[Poseidon]

Let's just build a city sized casino/hotel/entertainment precinct in the middle of NT

 

[bunsen burner]

Let's just build a city sized casino/hotel/entertainment precinct in the middle of NT

Good idea. We can go there to get married by people dressed as Steve Irwin.

 

[Illinois Nazi]

Someone has already mentioned the cyclone risk.

Geraldton does work because it's on the west coast, a perfect distance from perth, and the gateway to the Pilbara.

I'm not sure how big the cyclone risk is? I'd ask someone from Gero but they don't have the internet yet.

And is there a river somewhere around there?

Near the coast and with a river works. If no river, we just build one and call it the Clive Palmer River because he'd probably pay to build it.

I used to live there in the 90s. I even had the Internet! (28k dial up)

Cyclones are not an issue. You've got two rivers - Greenough River south of the town and Chapman River to the north. Neither are particularly major rivers, though. The geography of the place is perfect for a major port, though, without using either river.

I know this is a hypothetical build it from scratch thread, but Geraldton has huge potential as a major centre.

Carnarvon is another location to consider too. River, good growing land, not far enough north to be continually smashed by cyclones.

 

[Gough]

The main issue with building a new city in Adelaide is that Adelaide is already there. Unless you're suggesting we knock the city of Adelaide down and use the location of Adelaide to build bunsen's new one..

To be honest I wouldn't object strongly to that as a long as a few heritage buildings are maintained. A re-imagined Adelaide would be amazing.

 

[Admiral Byng]

My thoughts:

Triple transport plan. Roads, suburban rail, and bicycle. Lot of green corridors of parkland, which would have a dedicated network of cycle paths run through them, grade separated from main roads. A bicycle freeway system if you like. Bicycles would be banned from main roads. Main roads would have no residents, no shops, no driveways, no small side streets - in order to improve traffic flow. Freeway ring road around the city through the middle suburbs, with main road spokes going into the CBD and out the outer suburbs.

CBD area. Roads at ground level. Pedestrian level to be built at first floor level. All buildings have their main doors etc at first floor level, and connect their pedestrian levels together, making the whole area navigable by pedestrians above the road level, will need a few bridges over the roads connecting each side of the street. No shops at ground level. All city buildings to have secure bicycle parking and shower facilities for the workers. Bicycles will have their own dedicated road into and out of the city.

 

[The_Reaper]

How about at Albany?

King George Sound is a great harbour

 

[RU486]

Albany has always been considered a city with great potential for major population growth. Build a city near to the undeveloped inlet slightly to the east of Albany. Albany can stay where it is and become a port suburb, much like Fremantle is today. This location is advantageous because a port is already established and there is a road network connecting to Perth, thus a logistical network is already established making it much easier to transport goods to the area.

The CBD will be built at the North Western side of the inlet where a river runs off, creating a perfect oppurtunity for the ultimate 'foreshore' development. Additionally there is another river ~4km to the east the other one, this means all high rise apartments will be built here along the outskirts of the CBD. A suburban model will be used as there is plenty of room for development and the lay of the land allows developers to build divisions suited for all wealth classes.

Mount Marvin will be designated as a national park so visitors arriving to the city via sea will be treated by a remarkably scenic environment that demonstrates perfect synergy between development and the environment. Exclusive suburbs would be the South-West of the CBD, a location both near to the CBD, coast and Mount Marvin, whilst cheaper housing estates would be located inland of Albany and the CBD.

A basic yet efficient public transport system would be developed that benefits those living in the more densely populated areas, this gives an incentive for people to live in those areas rather than continuing the never ending cycle of urban sprawl. Can't really be bothered going into much detail now but it really is the perfect location to build another large Australian city.

 

[Silent Alarm]

Albany has always been considered a city with great potential for major population growth. Build a city near to the undeveloped inlet slightly to the east of Albany. Albany can stay where it is and become a port suburb, much like Fremantle is today. This location is advantageous because a port is already established and there is a road network connecting to Perth, thus a logistical network is already established making it much easier to transport goods to the area.

Albs represent.

Little Grove could be akin to a less ratty Frankston. You can extend the suburbs there to meet up to the one's in town. You can keep building on the east, adding to the few residential spots near the King and Kalgan river. If you keep going west, then the towns of Torbay and Denmark just get engulfed into Greater Albany, which is basically what's happened with places like Melton in Melbourne, from what I understand at least.

As for precincts, just look at North Road on google maps. There's plenty of empty land. To the west of Lockyer Avenue is plenty of space to build a stadium, restaurants, pubs, galleries, and a few high rises. Build something 'notable' at the Albany Sports Complex (as it's called on Maps). Y'know, something akin to Federation Square. Move the pool and public amenities toward the current, actually-happening sprawl up near the cream-brick shitness of Bayonet Head.

 

[bunsen burner]

Shortlist:
Near these centres:

Geraldton
Albany
Esperence
NSW south coast

Any others?

Who thinks WA is a must? East Coast has 3 big cities. West Coast needs some love. And another footy team.

 

[bunsen burner]

Albany has always been considered a city with great potential for major population growth. Build a city near to the undeveloped inlet slightly to the east of Albany. Albany can stay where it is and become a port suburb, much like Fremantle is today. This location is advantageous because a port is already established and there is a road network connecting to Perth, thus a logistical network is already established making it much easier to transport goods to the area.

The CBD will be built at the North Western side of the inlet where a river runs off, creating a perfect oppurtunity for the ultimate 'foreshore' development. Additionally there is another river ~4km to the east the other one, this means all high rise apartments will be built here along the outskirts of the CBD. A suburban model will be used as there is plenty of room for development and the lay of the land allows developers to build divisions suited for all wealth classes.

Mount Marvin will be designated as a national park so visitors arriving to the city via sea will be treated by a remarkably scenic environment that demonstrates perfect synergy between development and the environment. Exclusive suburbs would be the South-West of the CBD, a location both near to the CBD, coast and Mount Marvin, whilst cheaper housing estates would be located inland of Albany and the CBD.

A basic yet efficient public transport system would be developed that benefits those living in the more densely populated areas, this gives an incentive for people to live in those areas rather than continuing the never ending cycle of urban sprawl. Can't really be bothered going into much detail now but it really is the perfect location to build another large Australian city.

Best idea I have seen yet. What are the bitches like in Albany? Lots of sand? Do they have any good waves?

 

[Gough]

Shortlist:
Near these centres:

Geraldton
Albany
Esperence
NSW south coast

Any others?

Who thinks WA is a must? East Coast has 3 big cities. West Coast needs some love. And another footy team.

This all sounds suspiciously like a West Australian secessionist plot.

 

[rayven]

Unless you're suggesting we knock the city of Adelaide down and use the location of Adelaide to build bunsen's new one..

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You knock down, what doesn't work and build on what does. To much works for you to waste it, if you want the best possible scenario for a new city.

 

[raven echo]

Subway system is a must IMO

 

[Admiral Byng]

Shortlist:
Near these centres:

Geraldton
Albany
Esperence
NSW south coast

Any others?

Who thinks WA is a must? East Coast has 3 big cities. West Coast needs some love. And another footy team.

If money is no objection, find a salt lake somewhere and fill it full of water, then build a city around it.

 

[Messenger]

This all sounds suspiciously like a West Australian secessionist plot.

They can't secede until the market for their rocks slows down.

 

[Underdog]

Shortlist:
Near these centres:

Geraldton
Albany
Esperence
NSW south coast

I like the Albany idea and Carnarvon more then Geraldton or Esperance.

With Carnarvon, you'd just want to be careful with regard to flooding.

 

[davo99]

Best idea I have seen yet. What are the bitches like in Albany? Lots of sand? Do they have any good waves?

Mostly older folk down in Albany and Pom's great beaches and scenery, If you go away from town there are some decent waves. There a few good lookers there too

 

[Underdog]

The climate in Albany would be a significant drawback...maybe not for Victorians

 

[The_Reaper]

Aerial shot of Albany

 

[Admiral Byng]

I like the Albany idea and Carnarvon more then Geraldton or Esperance.

With Carnarvon, you'd just want to be careful with regard to flooding.

On the other hand, you'd want it close enough to Perth to make high speed rail a realistic option, if it's going to be a city of a million or two. So I'd put Albany and Geraldton ahead of farther flung places.

 

[bunsen burner]

The climate in Albany would be a significant drawback...maybe not for Victorians

It's still closer to the equator than Melbourne. Maybe a bit cold, but still okay.

 

[bunsen burner]

On the other hand, you'd want it close enough to Perth to make high speed rail a realistic option, if it's going to be a city of a million or two. So I'd put Albany and Geraldton ahead of farther flung places.

Carnarvon prolly too hot. Never been there but I think Perth is on the cusp of being too hot. Wouldn't want to go further north than Gero.

 

[Gough]

Fitzroy Crossing.

 

[The_Reaper]

On the other hand Geraldton does have several advantages over Albany.

A city needs an economic reason to exist. Logically this second WA city would exist by diversifying from Perth- thus reducing the burden on Perth.

Geraldton is closer to the mining (as well as being near Oakjee).

 

[Silent Alarm]

Mostly older folk down in Albany and Pom's great beaches and scenery, If you go away from town there are some decent waves. There a few good lookers there too

Poms? Not really. Heaps of English in Bunbury and Perth per head I'd say. Considering you basically know everyone, everyone is mostly boringly third or fourth generation Australian than anything. Fair few old people, but I don't know about this good looking business! Country Week was always full of "who's the hot town this year?" and it mostly seemed to be Esperance, weirdly enough.

It's also pretty much perfect in summer. Winter's are dreary and grey and dull and nothing happens. It resembles The Falklands in July. But you get a summer breeze without sweltering, sweaty, uncomfortable mornings and middays – unlike Perth. It basically sits between 26 and 33ish for summer: perfect. Some of the best beaches in Australia too.