How does Labor win the next federal election/elections to come?

[Belushi Brassiere]

The majority of Arab leadership don’t want to “end the Occupation”. They want to destroy Israel and kill the Jews. The Protocols of the Elders of Zion is widely propagated in the Arab-Islamic world, but it is Israel they hate, not the Jewish race, honest!

 

[Doss]

The majority of Arab leadership don’t want to “end the Occupation”. They want to destroy Israel and kill the Jews. The Protocols of the Elders of Zion is widely propagated in the Arab-Islamic world, but it is Israel they hate, not the Jewish race, honest!

What the hell has this got to do with Labor and the next election? Stop derailing this thread.

 

[Original Moody Blue]

The majority of Arab leadership don’t want to “end the Occupation”. They want to destroy Israel and kill the Jews. The Protocols of the Elders of Zion is widely propagated in the Arab-Islamic world, but it is Israel they hate, not the Jewish race, honest!

Well as long as you keep believing that then I promise you it will become a self-fulfilling prophecy. The world has turned a blind eye to what has occurred in Israel, but it is slowly getting fed up with the same rhetoric. All the world sees are Palestinians being slaughtered when Israel responds to an alleged incident.
How do we know that the Palestinians are responsible for these 'attacks'? Mossad could plant a few bombs, they go off and there is an excuse for another attack. You keep asking us to trust Israel, which has a history of killing, assassinations, and treachery, but ignore the Palestinians.

 

[Original Moody Blue]

What the hell has this got to do with Labor and the next election? Stop derailing this thread.

The ALP was a huge supporter of Israel, especially Bob Hawke, and the Party had many prominent Jewish MP's. Not anymore. The next generation like in the UK has become very sympathetic to the Palestinians. They have not reached the level of antisemitism that the Labor Party in the UK has reached, but give it time and it will get there eventually.

 

[Doss]

The ALP was a huge supporter of Israel, especially Bob Hawke, and the Party had many prominent Jewish MP's. Not anymore. The next generation like in the UK has become very sympathetic to the Palestinians. They have not reached the level of antisemitism that the Labor Party in the UK has reached, but give it time and it will get there eventually.

I realise the history of Hawke etc, but it’s got bugger all to do with an election here some time in the next 10 months.

 

[Original Moody Blue]

I realise the history of Hawke etc, but it’s got bugger all to do with an election here some time in the next 10 months.

Yes acknowledged. Just making the observation that Labor has changed from the centrist party that got them into power for 14 years.

Now we have an overtly Leftist Party that has been pushing lefty issues for the past 9 years and lost the last 3 elections.

Behind the scenes the ALP want to eliminate two of the largest exports this country has in coal and gas and replace it with solar, wind & battery which sounds great until you realise we cannot build any of these items in Australia, and we will have to dig up the planet to get the resources to build these items, which adds to Co2. Then there are the electric cars...The most destructive thing that will ever happen to this planet. We should be using hydrogen power to run cars, which is clean and safe.

 

[Doss]

Recent ALP fiscal policy suggests they’ve moved in anything but a leftist direction, but whatever.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

But arent many of the people who come to Australia actually coming from more conservative cultures, I suspect that a person of Chinese, or Indian descent is more likely to vote LNP than Greens. Plus how long do the young remain idealistic before the pressures of life start shifting them more towards immediate needs.

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If they remain locked out of owning their own home, then a very long time indeed.

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

Yes acknowledged. Just making the observation that Labor has changed from the centrist party that got them into power for 14 years.

Now we have an overtly Leftist Party that has been pushing lefty issues for the past 9 years and lost the last 3 elections.

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[Reynolds Number]

Scotty from Marketing has basically said that vaccines are no substitute for lockdowns nor will stop them so you can't blame the public for being hesitant.

If you have gone bankrupt or dealing with mental health problems just remember it's not a race.

So for that reason it's not smart from the ALP to lie about vaccines not being available and still discredit the AZ vaccine and run candidates that are cynical over particular vaccines. Just sell how important it is to get vaccinated regardless of the brand to everyone and bring some hope at the end of these never ending lockdowns and hard borders.

And distance themselves further from the communist shills on social media.

This is good from Shorten (although not the man to win an election though)

 

[Rob R]

I think the portrayal of people automatically becoming more conservative as they get older is a bit of an unexamined furphy personally. I see a lot of people my age (late 50s) absolutely furious at this dishonest, incompetent mob we’ve been lumped with. Would love to see some research on it.

True, it may not be as significant a factor as in the past. it would be good to see some research by an organisation that isnt tied to the two major parties.

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[Seeds]

Yes acknowledged. Just making the observation that Labor has changed from the centrist party that got them into power for 14 years.

Now we have an overtly Leftist Party that has been pushing lefty issues for the past 9 years and lost the last 3 elections.

Behind the scenes the ALP want to eliminate two of the largest exports this country has in coal and gas and replace it with solar, wind & battery which sounds great until you realise we cannot build any of these items in Australia, and we will have to dig up the planet to get the resources to build these items, which adds to Co2. Then there are the electric cars...The most destructive thing that will ever happen to this planet. We should be using hydrogen power to run cars, which is clean and safe.

um you get it was Kevin Rudd back in 07 who pushed the carbon tax harder then any minister.

 

[Original Moody Blue]

um you get it was Kevin Rudd back in 07 who pushed the carbon tax harder then any minister.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

Peta Credlin has admitted that the carbon price under Gillard wasn't a carbon tax. It was an emissions trading scheme that has a set price for the first year or two before being allowed to float. A price on carbon is the most efficient way to cut emissions.

 

[dusty1234!]

Peta Credlin has admitted that the carbon price under Gillard wasn't a carbon tax. It was an emissions trading scheme that has a set price for the first year or two before being allowed to float. A price on carbon is the most efficient way to cut emissions.

One of the great Labor achievments IMO. Trashed and fear mongered by the twats at Murdoch.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

One of the great Labor achievments IMO. Trashed and fear mongered by the twats at Murdoch.

I get the feeling Gillard wouldn't have gone for it had the Greens not insisted upon a price on carbon, but Labor still deserve credit for showing the courage to take it and run with it.

 

[tandino]

Peta Credlin has admitted that the carbon price under Gillard wasn't a carbon tax. It was an emissions trading scheme that has a set price for the first year or two before being allowed to float. A price on carbon is the most efficient way to cut emissions.

Gillard herself said it was effectively a tax. She shouldn't feel hard done by.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

Gillard herself said it was effectively a tax. She shouldn't feel hard done by.

"Carbon tax" refers to a very specific mechanism where the carbon price is known in advance and not allowed to float. Calling it a tax in general may be strictly true, but then we could also call every charge imposed by the government a tax, right down to processing fees on visa applications.

 

[Gough]

We'll be paying a carbon tax soon anyway only it will be one we gain no benefit from and don't set the rate of. How's Sqotty's precious sovreignty now?

 

[Rob R]

I get the feeling Gillard wouldn't have gone for it had the Greens not insisted upon a price on carbon, but Labor still deserve credit for showing the courage to take it and run with it.

I reckon she would have held off until the next election then openly campaigned for it with her popularity bolstered by Gonski and NDIS but was forced to run with it to get the cross bench support.

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[Johnny Bananas]

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

Perfectly encapsulates the sclerosis destroying Australia’s potential. I have NFI what is the solution, and obviously neither does anyone else.

 

[dusty1234!]

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Libs ****ed in Victoria

 

[dusty1234!]

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And Dickson in play, Clive Palmer attacking Dutton

 

[dusty1234!]

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Libs f’ed in Victoria

Here is the full article

PM attacked for alleged NSW bias

Prime Minister Scott Morrison. Picture: NCA NewsWire / Gary Ramage

• By JOHN FERGUSON
• 5:56PM AUGUST 1, 2021

Scott Morrison’s attempts to stitch together an election win are being compromised by hostility towards his leadership in Victoria.
Focus groups conducted in Melbourne’s outer suburbs are reporting parochial anger over his perceived bias towards NSW, amplified by Labor’s claim he is the “Prime Minister for NSW”.
Political strategy company Redbridge has reported significant angst over his handling of the pandemic, with the deteriorating NSW situation and the incoherent vaccination rollout exacerbating voter concerns.
The focus groups also are highlighting a rejuvenation of Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews’s standing; respondents said he had largely acknowledged the mistakes but believed he was doing his best in difficult circumstances.

One member of a focus group panel accused Mr Morrison of “playing chess with our lives” while others lamented the perception that Mr Morrison was strongly allied to NSW Liberal Premier Gladys Berejiklian.
The groups were conducted last week and the week before, mirroring views held by senior strategists on both sides of politics about the state of play in Victoria.
Senior Morrison government figures believe the Prime Minister’s fortunes will improve dramatically once larger numbers of Australians are double vaccinated.
The Liberal Party holds just 12 of the 38 federal seats in Victoria plus three Nationals.
Labor is expected to pick up the newly created seat of Hawke at the next election.
Labor must defend two marginals – Corangamite (1 per cent) and Dunkley (2.7 per cent).
Labor is hoping to pick up the eastern Liberal Melbourne seat of Chisholm, which is on a 0.5 per cent knife edge.
Similar focus group work conducted by Redbridge in Sydney’s western suburbs also showed voter hesitancy about the Prime Minister.
Senior Liberal sources said it was premature to be judging the election outcome because voters would shift their thinking once vaccination rates improved.
The negatives reported in the Melbourne focus groups mirror a long-running problem in Victoria for federal Coalition governments, with a divide between Melbourne, western Sydney and Queensland.
For 25 years, the federal Coalition has had to juggle the divide between Melbourne and large parts of the rest of the country, with Labor dominating in the southern capital.
Liberal Party sources said Mr Morrison had performed strongly during 2020 but the Sydney outbreak had started to polarise voters, with Labor successfully targeting flaws in the vaccine rollout and hotel quarantine.
Both sides of politics believe it is too early to predict what will happen at the next federal election, expected in the first half of 2022, but failure by the Coalition to markedly accelerate the vaccine rollout would be “terminal”, a senior party source said. “Everyone knows it is the key.’’
Redbridge’s focus groups have reinforced something of a resurgence of the Victorian Premier.
Labor sources said Mr Andrews was still below the height of his popularity after government bungling contributed to the 112-day lockdown last year.
Victoria is also taking a punt on hard, sharp lockdowns to control the Delta variant.
While it has worked in recent months, rolling lockdowns have upset many business people.
“Dan is doing better but it’s not like the whole world loves him,” a government MP said.
“You wouldn’t expect anything else.”