Roast I've lost my faith in Chris Davies

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Fellows, I have a question regarding our club structure: is there a "Football Coordinator?"

I mean, would there be someone below the CEO, but above the football departments: analytics, academy, list management, physical training, Magpies, Power, etc. Is there someone above Hinkley, only responsible to coordinate Port's football as a whole?

If so, who is he? If not, why not?!

Thanks.

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P.S.: It is obvious that our problem relies on the top, but I can't identify precisely who is in the wrong place, what the right place would be (including out of the club), and who should replace those who would need to be replaced.

Having said that, I don't think the club is struggling in other areas as much as we are in football – if we are struggling at all. So there would be my starting point for the Operation What Happened, Port's investigations.

Thus, my first suspect would be Chris Davies. I would begin taking a look at his responsibilities as head of football and what he has done. From the answers to these questions, we would have a better idea of what is wrong and how it could be fixed.
 
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Fellows, I have a question regarding our club structure: is there a "Football Coordinator?"

I mean, would there be someone below the CEO, but above the football departments: analytics, academy, list management, physical training, Magpies, Power, etc. Is there someone above Hinkley, only responsible to coordinate Port's football as a whole?

If so, who is he? If not, why not?!

Thanks.

Chris Davies. General manager of football. Though he would have zero say on match day.

You would be surprised how compartmentalized the club is though. High performance have almost zero contact with the coaches for example. Coaches have offices upstairs with the admin while the high performance guys are all lodged essentially in the gym downstairs.

This is likely by design so that specialists are left to do their specific jobs, however I also think you need a balance so that there is still synergy and everyone is pulling in the same direction.

Additionally there are guys based permanently in Victoria for scouting both the talent coming through in Vic leagues plus strategy/opposition analysis.

I don't think our current structure works at all, though.
 
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Chris Davies. General manager of football. Though he would have zero say on match day.

You would be surprised how compartmentalized the club is though. High performance have almost zero contact with the coaches for example. Coaches have offices upstairs with the admin while the high performance guys are all lodged essentially in the gym downstairs.

This is likely by design so that specialists are left to do their specific jobs, however I also think you need a balance so that there is still synergy and everyone is pulling in the same direction.

I don't think our current structure works at all, though.

Thanks for the reply. I agree on our structure. I think I have lost faith on Chris Davies, then. Our issues are shown on matchdays, but begin way before that.
 

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From Davies downwards, I strongly suggest people admiting their share of responsibility on this season's failure. Everyone! No exceptions. They should do sessions AA-meeting style, where everybody take a turn to talk (although Marshall should be immediately excused right after he says "Hi, my name is Todd.").

If no good answer comes out from these meetings, we should bring outside help. "The 'status quo' is not acceptable."

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He could've invented an app that turns Faulkners and Burleys into Sherrins, but having Hinkley's son on staff in any capacity seems incredibly bush league.
I agree, but I can bet it is common practice around the league. It is a sin, but not a big one.
 
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Trying to fix a football club from within is pointless. The old 'internal review' is nothing more than activity to appease supporters with no real end goal in mind aside from fan perception.

I'm sure once we miss the finals we'll hear how KT or Davies is doing this or that and the club will release some footage of someone in authority talking to the players and/or coaches and saying tough, harsh words like "we know who you are" and come beginning of the pre-season everything will have been forgotten and we'll go on from there.

Chris Davies is part of the problem, he's not part of the solution. He's no orphan in regards to the problem though.
 
Yeah, can we not? His job is to bring them in, not his fault our coach is an idiot.
If he is the head of football, it should be his fault. Hinkley responds to whom?

Football is not working as it should. If there is no one directly responsible for it; then, it is time to assign someone for the task — exclusively.
 
If he is the head of football, it should be his fault. Hinkley responds to whom?

Football is not working as it should. If there is no one directly responsible for it; then, it is time to assign someone for the task — exclusively.



Hinkley answers directly to Davies and he answers to CEO Thomas.
 
Hinkley answers directly to Davies and he answers to CEO Thomas.
That's why I would begin our "soul searching" with Davies. The CEO is not solely responsible for our football; Davies is ...
 

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You are grasping at straws which shld be banned;
Wc have on field kennedy, nic nat, gaff they win
Power ryder, dixon houston play out game we win last night

What is the logic in turning to davies

They burnt people in the middle ages with more so called evidence of the time, that this thread involves.

Reeks of mcarthism if you need a more recent historical example.
 
You are grasping at straws which shld be banned;
Wc have on field kennedy, nic nat, gaff they win
Power ryder, dixon houston play out game we win last night

What is the logic in turning to davies

They burnt people in the middle ages with more so called evidence of the time, that this thread involves.

Reeks of mcarthism if you need a more recent historical example.
I didn't say we should get rid of Davies. I am just saying that I would start looking for the source of our football problems at his role:
So there would be my starting point for the Operation What Happened, Port's investigations.

Or do you deny that we have problem in our football department?
 
You are grasping at straws which shld be banned;
Wc have on field kennedy, nic nat, gaff they win
Power ryder, dixon houston play out game we win last night

What is the logic in turning to davies

They burnt people in the middle ages with more so called evidence of the time, that this thread involves.

Reeks of mcarthism if you need a more recent historical example.
Bullshit !! Years of failure mate cmon wake up. Enough excuses we’ve had enough !!
 
You are grasping at straws which shld be banned;
Wc have on field kennedy, nic nat, gaff they win
Power ryder, dixon houston play out game we win last night

What is the logic in turning to davies

They burnt people in the middle ages with more so called evidence of the time, that this thread involves.

Reeks of mcarthism if you need a more recent historical example.
If you think everythings ticking along nicely and we are just a kick and an unlucky twisted ankle away from a premiership run, then theres no problem. I dont know about davies or anyone else, but i do know its been a long time since a top 4 finish despite topping up our list with a number of ready made players. Im not smart enough to know what needs to be done, but im not happy with where we are.
 
He could've invented an app that turns Faulkners and Burleys into Sherrins, but having Hinkley's son on staff in any capacity seems incredibly bush league.
He does the computers mate! wash ya mouth out he's heaps good at downloading
 
i dont have any real problems with the recruiting, i thinks its been pretty good, the coaching is the real issue
Again, would Davies' only responsibility be recruiting? People here are saying it is not.
 
I didn't say we should get rid of Davies. I am just saying that I would start looking for the source of our football problems at his role:


Or do you deny that we have problem in our football department?

To win a premiership a lot of things have to be put in place.
Recruiting has improved in hinkley era
Competiveness has improved
Coaching has been ok
We have been around the place with tastes of disappointment
Can i see a premiership around the corner. Probably not.
What i know is that hinkley will coach us next year
We can be better nexy year with hartlet, drew, marshall and a real pity hayes and knee.
I will be a memer next year
Thats it
 
What gets me is how Port Adelaide can have a decade of football in which we finish top four only once and no one is held accountable? Maybe all the scapegoats were slaughtered in 2011-12 when we disposed of Duncanson, Haysman, Williams, Primus and co. Maybe Koch thinks everyone is doing a wonderful job and we are just unlucky?
 

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