Mega Thread Port Forum 'General AFL Talk' Thread Part 12

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Imagine Freo make finals ahead of us in 9th and one of their wins was against a team with a guy who placed on bet on himself and had a low percentage shot late in the game and missed, in a game they lost by under a goal.


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Now that you've spoken this into existence, it will definitely happen.
 
Bucks pushing the case that Collingwood should be put on a pedestal, along with Stephenson, for its handing of this.
Thinks the club should come up smelling of roses after this.
Imagine if it were a Port player.
Stephenson's a shoo-in for the 2019 Andrew Gaff Inspirational Redemption Award.
 

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Saw this on Twitter today but would be interested in seeing this table compared to earlier years. Yes the AFL have a lot of work to do with GWS and GCS but surely the bigger issue are those “traditional” Melbourne clubs

Although I am not a fan, the impact of BBL is bloody obvious
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We're not responsible for this and we love the game, so we can debate the penalty.
The kid isn't being hung out to dry, he's fortunate that he'll be returning to play this year.
The AFL has its flaws, like many organisations do, and yes the betting adverts during games are distasteful in my opinion but just because these adverts exist doesn't mean that this young player should be pardoned.

I'm not saying he should be pardoned. Absolutely he should be punished for it.
But is it worse then the thuggery we've seen on field from players, often from the usual suspects? Of course it's not worse, in relation to football.
But compared to the punishment handed down for a few small bets, those incidents of violence on field don't even get a slap on the wrist.
It's disproportionate, and highlights the hypocrisy of the AFL, it's double standards, and making it up as they go along attitude. These idiots running, or more like ruining, the game, can't even be consistent with punishments for head high hits.
 
Saw this on Twitter today but would be interested in seeing this table compared to earlier years. Yes the AFL have a lot of work to do with GWS and GCS but surely the bigger issue are those “traditional” Melbourne clubs

Although I am not a fan, the impact of BBL is bloody obvious
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Would also be interesting to see the crowd numbers versus interstate sides.
 
Saw this on Twitter today but would be interested in seeing this table compared to earlier years. Yes the AFL have a lot of work to do with GWS and GCS but surely the bigger issue are those “traditional” Melbourne clubs

Although I am not a fan, the impact of BBL is bloody obvious
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Too many Melbourne teams. Under the carpet with this one then...
 
Saw this on Twitter today but would be interested in seeing this table compared to earlier years. Yes the AFL have a lot of work to do with GWS and GCS but surely the bigger issue are those “traditional” Melbourne clubs

Although I am not a fan, the impact of BBL is bloody obvious
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Always find these raw numbers completely misleading. The Big Vic clubs and Vic clubs in general have the advantage of many derby games. Big Vic clubs also get the prime fixtures. Also, playing GWS/Gold Coast away severely effects averages. Also playing games in Hobart, China, Launy, Ballarat, Townsville, Darwin, Alice etc also effects these figures. It's just not a level playing field. This is why, pound for pound, West Coasts and Adelaide's crowds are the most impressive in the league. For so called battler clubs that the AFL and the media in general give scant regard for, both us and Freo do pretty well also.
 

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It's a broken measure. Along with the above, Geelong are a big club playing most home games in a tinpot stadium. Then you have whatever smaller club is gifted a double up against the entitled 4, or if Buddy is tearing it up attracting neutrals, etc.
 
Eddie McGuire reveals conversation with Gillon McLachlan about organised crime fears


Eddie McGuire fears AFL players will be pushed into the clutches of organised crime over the AFL’s anti-gambling policy.

Collingwood star Jaidyn Stephenson was forced to face the music on Wednesday when he was hit with a 10-game ban (with a further 12-matches suspended) for a series of multi-bets on himself and his team’s performances this season.
While the bets only totalled $36 and were unsuccessful, McGuire says the AFL’s decision to “clobber” Stephenson will in future drive players “underground” to bet with unregulated bookmakers as a potential gateway towards organised crime.

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(It) is a consequence of the AFL’s hard and fast stance to ban players from gambling on football that concerns McGuire.

“My counter to that would be players are going to get themselves into trouble with organised crime by betting outside of football and racking up massive debts, which are then forced to be paid off by doing something in football,” McGuire said. The Collingwood president even called for the AFL to investigate an “amnesty” period for players to come forward and self report their gambling issues in order to get them out in the open.

McGuire suggested players could be given a period at the end of the 2019 season to confess to gambling problems without facing disciplinary action from the AFL — in a bid to stop them from being vulnerable to approaches from organised crime.

 
Eddie McGuire is a weaselly campaigner, just begging for an amnesty for his corrupt club of cheats

Maybe get your house in order mate. Organised crime was into Collingwood before Stephenson was born.
 
Eddie McGuire reveals conversation with Gillon McLachlan about organised crime fears


Eddie McGuire fears AFL players will be pushed into the clutches of organised crime over the AFL’s anti-gambling policy.

Collingwood star Jaidyn Stephenson was forced to face the music on Wednesday when he was hit with a 10-game ban (with a further 12-matches suspended) for a series of multi-bets on himself and his team’s performances this season.
While the bets only totalled $36 and were unsuccessful, McGuire says the AFL’s decision to “clobber” Stephenson will in future drive players “underground” to bet with unregulated bookmakers as a potential gateway towards organised crime.

...

(It) is a consequence of the AFL’s hard and fast stance to ban players from gambling on football that concerns McGuire.

“My counter to that would be players are going to get themselves into trouble with organised crime by betting outside of football and racking up massive debts, which are then forced to be paid off by doing something in football,” McGuire said. The Collingwood president even called for the AFL to investigate an “amnesty” period for players to come forward and self report their gambling issues in order to get them out in the open.

McGuire suggested players could be given a period at the end of the 2019 season to confess to gambling problems without facing disciplinary action from the AFL — in a bid to stop them from being vulnerable to approaches from organised crime.


What the hell has D Beams been betting on?
 
Eddie McGuire reveals conversation with Gillon McLachlan about organised crime fears


Eddie McGuire fears AFL players will be pushed into the clutches of organised crime over the AFL’s anti-gambling policy.

Collingwood star Jaidyn Stephenson was forced to face the music on Wednesday when he was hit with a 10-game ban (with a further 12-matches suspended) for a series of multi-bets on himself and his team’s performances this season.
While the bets only totalled $36 and were unsuccessful, McGuire says the AFL’s decision to “clobber” Stephenson will in future drive players “underground” to bet with unregulated bookmakers as a potential gateway towards organised crime.

...

(It) is a consequence of the AFL’s hard and fast stance to ban players from gambling on football that concerns McGuire.

“My counter to that would be players are going to get themselves into trouble with organised crime by betting outside of football and racking up massive debts, which are then forced to be paid off by doing something in football,” McGuire said. The Collingwood president even called for the AFL to investigate an “amnesty” period for players to come forward and self report their gambling issues in order to get them out in the open.

McGuire suggested players could be given a period at the end of the 2019 season to confess to gambling problems without facing disciplinary action from the AFL — in a bid to stop them from being vulnerable to approaches from organised crime.


And yet if it were anyone but his precious maggies, he would be calling them to be strung up by their thumbs. :rolleyes:
 
Not sure why any of this comes as a surprise as the late (not so great) Carl Williams was a huge Fitzroy supporter and was in the Brisbane Lions rooms after the 2003 AFL Grand Final and prior to the game, two players visited his home for family pics. Not suggesting anything illegal took place but 'linament sniffers' have a way of gaining entry.

Read, 'Carl Williams' by Adam Shand
 
Eddie McGuire reveals conversation with Gillon McLachlan about organised crime fears


Eddie McGuire fears AFL players will be pushed into the clutches of organised crime over the AFL’s anti-gambling policy.

Collingwood star Jaidyn Stephenson was forced to face the music on Wednesday when he was hit with a 10-game ban (with a further 12-matches suspended) for a series of multi-bets on himself and his team’s performances this season.
While the bets only totalled $36 and were unsuccessful, McGuire says the AFL’s decision to “clobber” Stephenson will in future drive players “underground” to bet with unregulated bookmakers as a potential gateway towards organised crime.

...

(It) is a consequence of the AFL’s hard and fast stance to ban players from gambling on football that concerns McGuire.

“My counter to that would be players are going to get themselves into trouble with organised crime by betting outside of football and racking up massive debts, which are then forced to be paid off by doing something in football,” McGuire said. The Collingwood president even called for the AFL to investigate an “amnesty” period for players to come forward and self report their gambling issues in order to get them out in the open.

McGuire suggested players could be given a period at the end of the 2019 season to confess to gambling problems without facing disciplinary action from the AFL — in a bid to stop them from being vulnerable to approaches from organised crime.

So Edward is concerned that by taking a tough stance on players betting on AFL games largely due to the possibility of match fixing it could encourage players to get involved in match fixing.
 
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bang on the money, rules for some

Round 9, it's now round 14!!!. Kept hush for a month while the investigation was happening. Stinky Stinky VFL protection.


So he should have been handed a punishment before an investigation returned a result?

Wow this board is getting dumber by the day.
 
So he should have been handed a punishment before an investigation returned a result?
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The investigation knew he’d broken the rules inside the first minute. All that was left to do is determine severity of offense and appropriate suspension.

If you want to use law, that kind of thing can count towards the suspension when decided. Given the final charge was 22 weeks, holding Stephenson out of games for a month, when guilt and a breach of the code are already known to have happened, is not unreasonable.

Also not without precedent in other industries to suspend an employee during investigation.
 
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