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Let's keep the promotion of and sympathy for anti-vax nonsense off here, thanks.
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Definitely could have been a different flick knife and probably was for the reasons you have described. I just meant that the poster was probably right in assuming it was a flick knife generally. Sorry for not being clearer on that.Generally when a charge applies the knife is confiscated and disposed of, he might like flick knives and have replaced it.
Is the accused going to argue that there was no intent to murder because he deliberately did not flick open the flick knife, and if the knife then subsequently opened, that this was accidental?
Is the accused going to argue that there was no intent to murder because he deliberately did not flick open the flick knife, and if the knife then subsequently opened, that this was accidental?
This 16yo imo probably bought a cheap flick knife and he has no to little experience using it.
Things might be so way worse in Sydney last night and today had that knife opened or been opened properly.If you watch it, you can see him launch then pause .. that's when he looks at the knife, then he does a bit a movement which might have been the flick open and continues.
My guess is the blade wasn't snap locked open in to the shaft. He kept stabbing with a loose blade and that's also possibly how he nearly cut one of his fingers off.
Wow! I wonder how many knives have ever failed in a stabbing! And for this to happen in a church...Things might be so way worse in Sydney last night and today had that knife opened or been opened properly.
'PUBLISHED: 14:49 AEST, 16 April 2024 | UPDATED: 15:04 AEST, 16 April 2024Nat Barr asks question on everyone's mind after church stabbing horror
Natalie Barr has asked the question on the minds of many Australian after a 16-year-old boy allegedly attacked a high-profile bishop in a horrific stabbing attack.www.dailymail.co.uk
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They are still not definitely saying whether self-inflicted, retribution or other.My guess is the blade wasn't snap locked open in to the shaft. He kept stabbing with a loose blade and that's also possibly how he nearly cut one of his fingers off.
Comment has been sought from Meta and X. Inman Grant said the quantum of the fines sought could depend on the gravity of the non-compliance. She said more removal notices to other platforms could be issued.While the majority of mainstream social media platforms have engaged with us, I am not satisfied enough is being done to protect Australians from this most extreme and gratuitous violent material circulating online. That is why I am exercising my powers under the Online Safety Act to formally compel them to remove it. I have issued a notice to X requiring them to remove this content. A legal notice will also be sent to Meta this afternoon, and further notices are likely to follow. I will not hesitate to use further graduated powers at my disposal if there is noncompliance.
Completely irrelevant to the current event.The Bishop in this situation was known to be preaching anti-vaxxer and anti-lockdown rhetoric, which have been linked to RW groups. So yes, they are more relevant.
Yes. The bishop has over 120,000 followers.Maybe I missed something but how did so many people turn up so quickly? Was the live stream that popular in the community?
The church service was live-streamed.It spread around Twitter/X like wildfire. We saw it just after it was posted and before people turned up to riot, and we do not follow or engage with any accounts that would have been directly streaming that. There are other accounts that will promote and propagate things like that, regardless of whether they are involved with or interested in the subject matter, and with the algorithm posts like that can end up in people’s feeds very quickly.
Not sure how that changes anything I said? Yes it was live streamed, but clips appeared all over the place very fast, reaching a far greater audience than the original live stream.The church service was live-streamed.
Anyone thinking of posting vids of it here, pls don't, it's really distressing.
2h ago 15.27 AESTAustralia news live: Facebook and X ordered to remove church stabbing content; BoM declares an end to El Niño
Follow livewww.theguardian.com
'Facebook and X ordered to remove church stabbing content
Josh Taylor
Facebook’s parent company Meta and X/Twitter have been issued with notices to remove violent and distressing videos posted online of the stabbing of prominent Orthodox Christian leader Bishop Mar Mari Emmanuel at his church in Wakeley in Sydney’s west on Monday evening.
The eSafety commissioner, Julie Inman Grant, told reporters on Tuesday that notices to remove within 24 hours what had been deemed to be class 1 material, that is “material depicting gratuitous or offensive violence with a high degree of impact or detail” to be removed from X and Meta, with the companies facing potential fines if they fail to comply.
The notices relate to Emmanuel’s alleged stabbing by a 16-year-old on Monday evening during Emmanuel’s mass, which was being live-streamed.
Inman Grant said:
Comment has been sought from Meta and X. Inman Grant said the quantum of the fines sought could depend on the gravity of the non-compliance. She said more removal notices to other platforms could be issued.
Notices have not been issued in relation to the Bondi Junction Westfield stabbings imagery, which has continued to circulate on social media since Saturday.'
Yeah I have seen the pic floating around of the hand and severed fingers, looks almost professionally and surgically done. Doesn't look like something a 16yo could calmly do on his own but then again what do I know
It was absolutely relevant to the broader and more complex discussion I was having with someone, which you could in fact bother to read rather than just responding to a subsequent explanation about part of the conversation.Completely irrelevant to the current event.
I don't think this actually reaches the threshold for those notices, and it seems especially odd given there is equivalent if not more more distressing imagery relating to the Bondi attacks. I think the real reason is that they don't want people being inspired by the stabbing footage or it being out there to incite tensions across the relevant communities, which is fair enough, but I wish they'd just be honest about that.Anyone thinking of posting vids of it here, pls don't, it's really distressing.
2h ago 15.27 AESTAustralia news live: Facebook and X ordered to remove church stabbing content; BoM declares an end to El Niño
Follow livewww.theguardian.com
'Facebook and X ordered to remove church stabbing content
Josh Taylor
Facebook’s parent company Meta and X/Twitter have been issued with notices to remove violent and distressing videos posted online of the stabbing of prominent Orthodox Christian leader Bishop Mar Mari Emmanuel at his church in Wakeley in Sydney’s west on Monday evening.
The eSafety commissioner, Julie Inman Grant, told reporters on Tuesday that notices to remove within 24 hours what had been deemed to be class 1 material, that is “material depicting gratuitous or offensive violence with a high degree of impact or detail” to be removed from X and Meta, with the companies facing potential fines if they fail to comply.
The notices relate to Emmanuel’s alleged stabbing by a 16-year-old on Monday evening during Emmanuel’s mass, which was being live-streamed.
Inman Grant said:
Comment has been sought from Meta and X. Inman Grant said the quantum of the fines sought could depend on the gravity of the non-compliance. She said more removal notices to other platforms could be issued.
Notices have not been issued in relation to the Bondi Junction Westfield stabbings imagery, which has continued to circulate on social media since Saturday.'
I'm confused as to how quickly the NSW police commissioner has arrived at the conclusion that this was a terrorist attack.
I mean, what is the evidence of political or religious ideology from this attacker that normally necessitate the defining of terrorism?
Then they should change the laws to provide clear powers to quickly order the removal of pics and vids from terrorist and other incidents that might incite racial, religious and other violence.I don't think this actually reaches the threshold for those notices, and it seems especially odd given there is equivalent if not more more distressing imagery relating to the Bondi attacks. I think the real reason is that they don't want people being inspired by the stabbing footage or it being out there to incite tensions across the relevant communities, which is fair enough, but I wish they'd just be honest about that.