- May 1, 2016
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Okay.Have you got a slither of evidence of this claim or just a story you made up in your head as to why you couldn't land Smith and Rocky? i dare say McGovern wouldn't be coming because he enjoys wearing blue.
The reason you can't land players is because Carlton have performed poorly for a very long time. Players want success.
If you are applauding SOS for not offering players more money than say other clubs then while thats great you'll never land anyone decent which is ringing true since he has taken over.
Certainly I don't. What I've got is the fact that Tuohy left after having been offered less money than he felt he should've, Daisy choosing to forgo the bulk of his financial contract and to remove the trigger for this season, Murphy spending a significant amount of time thinking before resigning, us inquiring after pretty much every player that has been a FA or traded and is of the sort of player we might need (midfielders, mainly) early and making a reasonable offer, only to have it blown out of the water by North Melbourne (usually). Have you got a slither of evidence to dispute that claim? I'm curious how you think I'd know confidential contract information, nor why you think that I'd pick this particular bridge to die on.
And, had you bothered to actually read the post I was replying to, you would have seen that what I was saying was, based on the available evidence - which, granted, isn't much, but it's more than you've got - we don't seek to overpay for players, whether in picks or in contracts, which undercuts the notion that in future years our TPP will be unbalanced.
As for your last sentence, that is factually untrue. Geelong have made a case study of not overpaying with their 'no-one gets more than Selwood' scheme. Hawthorn managed to keep that list together and still get in more players, Lake and McEvoy. Collingwood won a flag off the back of bringing in two players - Ball and Jolly - on decent not exorbitant salaries. Richmond paid what Prestia and Caddy were worth, and won a flag as a consequence.
And, like I said in 'the uphill road to becoming a destination club', you can make the case that every single club in the AFL is a destination club based purely on the sheer amount of player movement, and both players and club's inability to see how close/far they are from success. What actually exists is every club's pitch to each player they seek, and the degree to which that pitch offers what that player considers attractive over other clubs.
We have had no issue getting in players, of the kind that we've sought (young, talented) and I've thoroughly more confidence in SOS's ability to manage a list than I do yours. Why are you even still here?