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Undone all his good work by being so remorseful and accepting of penalty.
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Undone all his good work by being so remorseful and accepting of penalty.
You guys are dead set wrong. It can absolutely happen. Not saying it did, but not willing to crucify him so quickly as some here on what little we know!
These managers and list people meet all the time. They have stables of players at various clubs. Could easily go down like this....
Manager: I have player X and Y that you might be interested in. They are not getting games at Club A, and will be available... Where are you guys at?
Carlton List Guy: Well we might be interested in player X, but player Y we have covered. What we really are interested in its some extra midfield grunt. Where is Ollie at down at Port?
Manager: Well he is going ok and looks like his shoulder will be fine. Had a shocker of a year though, as has the club, so he hasn't been a happy camper the last few months.
Carlton List Guy: Where is he at with this co-captains crap? Has been a debacle looking on from the outside, could we tempt him to walk?
Manager: Anyone can be tempted if the price is right! Give me some possible figures and I will sound him out on it
Carlton List Guy: OK sure.Get back to me on it, add Wines to our midfield, and will have one of the best in the league!
Manager: OK. I'll get back to you by next week.
Manager:..... so what do you reckon Ollie?
Ollie: Tell them to get stuffed! I want to be wearing the #1 on my jumper in the next two years at Port!
Carlton List Guy: Yes Ollie's name was brought up in discussions
Port Fans: Port supporters descend on Alberton with lynch ropes, burning Ollie Wines effigies out front of Allan Scott headquarters!
BF Port Board: Who the hell knows what happened, but let's lynch the barstard anyway!
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- Jun 12, 2012
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Almost everyone tests the waters at some point so it’s probably not worth getting all bent out of shape over it.
Also Ollie will need to play close to his best this year if he wants another club to pay him anywhere near what we currently are, so even if he does want out we will likely benefit from it in terms of on-field results and trade capital.
Not fussed either way to be honest.
Also Ollie will need to play close to his best this year if he wants another club to pay him anywhere near what we currently are, so even if he does want out we will likely benefit from it in terms of on-field results and trade capital.
Not fussed either way to be honest.
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Was it revealed it was a family member?
What your suggesting is completely different to what happens with Wines, you’re suggesting Carlton asked us about him where as his Manager approached them. They are two very, very different scenarios.
"So it was just his manager ringing around to see what was out there" This whole fiasco is not merely a case of just his manager ringing around.
The weasel words that Ollie hadn't personally done the asking seems like corporate speak Jonas was handed by our spin doctors.
No matter how hard this turd is polished it still stinks.
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Regardless of which family member it may have been, why does someone in their mid 20's need others in his family to get involved in his professional life?
There are virtually only two ways to spin it, ie he either has a number of interfering relatives who won't let go, or he is still immature and needs them to organise some aspects of his life, and I suspect it may be a bit of both.
The good thing about Ollie is when real pressure is applied he generally plays his best
Should have a few points to prove
Should have a few points to prove
bomberclifford
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Or it was done to keep distance from the approach. Plausible deniability is what they were aiming for.
An approach like that wouldn't be done without the player's instruction.
GoTheMightyCrows
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..........good luck Tom
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Yeah. Like that crucial snap at goal in the Showdown...
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Yeahhh thats not what the rumours are though.
Carlton's side of the story is that his manager went up to Carlton and asked them to make a play for him (presumably because he wants out). Carlton said sorry they didn't have the currency for him currently as they were tied up in other trades and it would take 2 first rounders to pull him out at least.
GoTheMightyCrows
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PORT ADELAIDE young gun Connor Rozee has thrown his full support behind newly appointed captain Tom Jonas, saying he is “definitely the right man for the job”.
Rozee who is embarking on his second pre-season at the senior level, says one captain was the best decision for Port Adelaide moving forward.
“Obviously I’ve only been here for 12 months, so it’s hard to gauge things 100 per cent,” Rozee said on SEN Melbourne with Nick Dal Santo and Jack Heverin on Tuesday morning.
“I think Tommy (Jonas) is definitely the right man for the job at this stage - Ollie (Wines) did a terrific job last year, but I think it was hard for him not being able to be out on the park as much as he would’ve liked.
“At this stage, I think the best position for the club was one captain going forward, and Tommy was definitely the man ready for that.”
“Behind the scenes, he is a pretty laid-back character - he can get pretty aggressive on the field, he’s a pretty stern bloke.
“But off the field, he’s pretty quiet. He likes to get around the young boys, which is good. He sets really high standards at training.”
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Rozee who is embarking on his second pre-season at the senior level, says one captain was the best decision for Port Adelaide moving forward.
“Obviously I’ve only been here for 12 months, so it’s hard to gauge things 100 per cent,” Rozee said on SEN Melbourne with Nick Dal Santo and Jack Heverin on Tuesday morning.
“I think Tommy (Jonas) is definitely the right man for the job at this stage - Ollie (Wines) did a terrific job last year, but I think it was hard for him not being able to be out on the park as much as he would’ve liked.
“At this stage, I think the best position for the club was one captain going forward, and Tommy was definitely the man ready for that.”
“Behind the scenes, he is a pretty laid-back character - he can get pretty aggressive on the field, he’s a pretty stern bloke.
“But off the field, he’s pretty quiet. He likes to get around the young boys, which is good. He sets really high standards at training.”
Rozee: Jonas definitely the right man for the job
Power young gun Connor Rozee says newly appointed captain Tom Jonas is definitely the right man for the job.
I did say 'generally'
His year before the big contract extension was his best
I also re-call Timmy G revving him up publicly last year and having a nice game that weekend
I stand by my statement
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His manager added fuel to the fire of him losing his captaincy if this is true...
Meaning a paycut
Yep it's a fantastic pic, we get that and we also get that you and others are in his corner.
Those of us who openly Q whether it's a good choice don't therefore wish him ill or want Port to do badly next year.
We're Port tragics hurting because for however many years we've been served up mediocrity and those responsible have not
been made accountable. Tough league, battling club and some-one's gotta lose are cop outs.
The number of recent posters who've suddenly appeared spouting an argument that if your not with this mediocrity your not Port
is mischievous bollocks. Muddy the waters all you want the facts are we've been ordinary for too long and for some enough is enough.
If our crowds are down next year, as seems likely, the reason just might be that those entrusted to lead our club have dropped the ball.
The fans are not the problem and whats more they're not stupid.
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Ultimately it would just really sting to have another guy not fulfil his early potential at Port. There was a time that Wingard and Wines were going to lead us to success for years to come. To see both of them leave while we continue to rebuild would be a real kick in the guts.
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It’s an indictment on the current regime. This might be an unpopular opinion but I think we should consider sacking a few heads.
GoTheMightyCrows
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He is not my first choice of captain but I'm more than prepared to give him a go as the sole front man rather that spending the next six months bitching about this appointment, some people will only be happy if Tom doesn't go well at the gig as it will appease their own hopes and/or belief that he will fail.
I'm more than happy to have all the negative stuff thrown towards KH and DK as they are proven failures.
Doctor Feel
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uhhhhhh, what? I have never seen that trait in him at all.
Doctor Feel
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PORT ADELAIDE young gun Connor Rozee has thrown his full support behind newly appointed captain Tom Jonas, saying he is “definitely the right man for the job”.
Rozee who is embarking on his second pre-season at the senior level, says one captain was the best decision for Port Adelaide moving forward.
“Obviously I’ve only been here for 12 months, so it’s hard to gauge things 100 per cent,” Rozee said on SEN Melbourne with Nick Dal Santo and Jack Heverin on Tuesday morning.
“I think Tommy (Jonas) is definitely the right man for the job at this stage - Ollie (Wines) did a terrific job last year, but I think it was hard for him not being able to be out on the park as much as he would’ve liked.
“At this stage, I think the best position for the club was one captain going forward, and Tommy was definitely the man ready for that.”
“Behind the scenes, he is a pretty laid-back character - he can get pretty aggressive on the field, he’s a pretty stern bloke.
“But off the field, he’s pretty quiet. He likes to get around the young boys, which is good. He sets really high standards at training.”
Rozee: Jonas definitely the right man for the job
Power young gun Connor Rozee says newly appointed captain Tom Jonas is definitely the right man for the job.
Thank god for that, hey?
There are many other possibilities besides those outlined. I vaguely remember reading somewhere that Wines manager denied that he had approached another team regarding the possibility of trading Wines, and the club (PAFC) also denied they considered trading him (I may be wrong but thought I remembered reading that somewhere). If so, that doesn't mean (hypothetically) that someone else close to the player (ie his father) couldn't have made an exploratory inquiry to Carlton (or another potential suitor) with or without the players knowledge. There are too many unknowns at this point to make any judgement on anyone's commitment, motivation or character so at this point I'm happy to offer him the benefit of the doubt and hope he has a blinder of a season as one our VCs in 2020.
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