Opinion VICBias - Genuine Discussion

[3207]

This is just ridiculous. Why would they even need to changes their watches?

Seriously, if you're basing your argument on this little tidbit, it's lost already.

In your opinion and your opinion only.

 

[Freomaniac]

And given the biggest market is vic, and vic has a population that outnumbers all the other footy states and territories combined (by over a million), then that poxy league gets all the best players, coaches, staff etc. TV rights, crowds etc. like it used to before it was expanded.

You all complained then, are complaining now, and if you get your wish above, you'll all be complaining that it's like it used to be before expansion.

'They're pinching our best players, because our players wanna play in the highest profile league, wah!'

Then you can keep your poxy whatever is breakaway league, enjoy.

I enjoyed the 2020 AFL season just for your posts alone.

Dan Andrews should be a hero for his way of handling corona virus.

 

[Carringbush2010]

I enjoyed the 2020 AFL season just for your posts alone.

Dan Andrews should be a hero for his way of handling corona virus.

Thanks!

What's that clown Andrews got to do with anything?

 

[sr36]

So.... Would you be happy with Western Australia getting a 3rd team? I dont mind that. I agree that More derbies is an advantage. A 3rd WA club changes things. That means dockers get eagles twice a year and 3rd WA club twice a year.

Dockers go from Having 22 games a year with 10 stand out home games, 2 eagles derby games and 10 away games to 22 games a year, 9 Stand out home games, 4 derby games (2 vs west coast and 2 vs 3rd WA club) and only 9 away games.

Wa all know WA teams travel more.

In theory, 3 WA teams would be the right number in terms of players from WA and population. But how do you do it? Who's going to barrack for them?

 

[doppleganger]

They also seem to get gifted easy draws post-bye when they are in finals contention, because the AFL would rather have the majority of finals in Melbourne, hence the bigger Melbourne clubs annually getting softer draws so the AFL gets a chance at engineering big 4 clubs against each other in finals.

The big 4 Melbourne clubs are Collingwood, Richmond, Essendon and Carlton.

Carlton havent finished top4 this century
Essendon haven't won a final in 20 hears
Richmond were shit for 30+ years before eventually being good for a tiny window (which included Covid when no games were in Melbourne).

You just make up rubbish.

The teams who dominate H&A ladder are non Melbourne teams.

AFL CEO(Dillon) has already come out and said(during Derby week) that the premiership is harder to win for WA sides than Vic sides and that the travel burden is 'unfair', as did your own coach.

The travel is "unfair".

But that isnt the result of any bias, it is the result of geography.

Perth is in the middle of nowhere, so if you want to compete in a national competition where the 16 other teams are east coast based (like the Australian population) you are going to travel further for each of your away games.

If the Eagles don't want to travel, relocate somewhere on the east coast.

No sporting leagues can ever solve geography. Teams based in remote cities will ALWAYS travel more than those who are in major population hubs.

 

[bzparkes]

The big 4 Melbourne clubs are Collingwood, Richmond, Essendon and Carlton.

Carlton havent finished top4 this century
Essendon haven't won a final in 20 hears
Richmond were s**t for 30+ years before eventually being good for a tiny window (which included Covid when no games were in Melbourne).

You just make up rubbish.

The teams who dominate H&A ladder are non Melbourne teams.


The travel is "unfair".

But that isnt the result of any bias, it is the result of geography.

Perth is in the middle of nowhere, so if you want to compete in a national competition where the 16 other teams are east coast based (like the Australian population) you are going to travel further for each of your away games.

If the Eagles don't want to travel, relocate somewhere on the east coast.

No sporting leagues can ever solve geography. Teams based in remote cities will ALWAYS travel more than those who are in major population hubs.

**** me dead, I swear you lot have severe reading comprehension issues.

We understand travel is unavoidable, what isn't unavoidable is scheduling WA teams to play off a short break, after the the longest trip in footy, against rested Vic teams, when they should be scheduling the WA team the longer break. This happens all the time.

Why do I have to keep explaining this to people who keep repeating the same shit that nobody is even complaining about?

 

[ghostbat12]

The big 4 Melbourne clubs are Collingwood, Richmond, Essendon and Carlton.

Carlton havent finished top4 this century
Essendon haven't won a final in 20 hears
Richmond were s**t for 30+ years before eventually being good for a tiny window (which included Covid when no games were in Melbourne).

You just make up rubbish.

The teams who dominate H&A ladder are non Melbourne teams.


The travel is "unfair".

But that isnt the result of any bias, it is the result of geography.

Perth is in the middle of nowhere, so if you want to compete in a national competition where the 16 other teams are east coast based (like the Australian population) you are going to travel further for each of your away games.

If the Eagles don't want to travel, relocate somewhere on the east coast.

No sporting leagues can ever solve geography. Teams based in remote cities will ALWAYS travel more than those who are in major population hubs.

No one is asking to move geography. It’s about equating some other things that are disproportionally unfair.

We travel to Tasmania and go to Geelong on annual basis - why can’t a vic club do that? We aren’t asking to not travel but we should simply play in Melbourne and not have to take on some of these extra travel issues.

flipping one game as an extra home game due to imbalance caused by a gather round. We weren’t given a home game to balance that out as we have to travel again

Also not to play a game after 6 day break after a 6hr flight to Gold Coast.

Nothing there is too controversial. Is it really? Issue is that clubs have self interest and are simply willing to ensure competitive disadvantage is maintained.

Hence simplistic explanations like “business class” as they know fans are not educated to assess the depth of the arguement or the point. They think it’s all luxury and equate to being business class as some ultimate happiness. Indicator of peasant thinking really. Jet lag, sitting down, delayed recovery for hours doesn’t go away.

 

[bzparkes]

No one is asking to move geography. It’s about equating some other things that are disproportionally unfair.

We travel to Tasmania and go to Geelong on annual basis - why can’t a vic club do that? We aren’t asking to not travel but we should simply play in Melbourne and not have to take on some of these extra travel issues.

flipping one game as an extra home game due to imbalance caused by a gather round. We weren’t given a home game to balance that out as we have to travel again

Also not to play a game after 6 day break after a 6hr flight to Gold Coast.

Nothing there is too controversial. Is it really? Issue is that clubs have self interest and are simply willing to ensure competitive disadvantage is maintained.

Nah, they won't read any of that and will just accuse you of being a 'sook' and say "yOu joInED oUR LEagUe!!!!"

 

[ghostbat12]

Nah, they won't read any of that and will just accuse you of being a 'sook' and say "yOu joInED oUR LEagUe!!!!"

But we joined league with Fitzroy in it. This club no longer exists. Therefore we joined a league that no longer exists as we joined it.

It was also less travel, less overall teams and no travel to Tasmania.

So we should go back to league we joined.

 

[doppleganger]

No one is asking to move geography. It’s about equating some other things that are disproportionally unfair.

The only thing that is disproportionally unfair is the distance travelled by WA teams, which is a result of geography.

We travel to Tasmania and go to Geelong on annual basis - why can’t a vic club do that? We aren’t asking to not travel but we should simply play in Melbourne and not have to take on some of these extra travel issues.

A direct flight to Tasmania v a direct flight to Melbourne is no difference to the WA team

The team that ia shafted is the Melbourne team who has to travel for a supposed HOME game.

flipping one game as an extra home game due to imbalance caused by a gather round. We weren’t given a home game to balance that out as we have to travel again

All teams, except SA teams, had an extra travel game.

Why do WC deserve an extra home game but Brisbane or Melbourne dont?

Also not to play a game after 6 day break after a 6hr flight to Gold Coast.

All teams get a mix of short and long breaks.

5 day breaks are the tough ones, 6 day are pretty standard.

Nothing there is too controversial. Is it really? Issue is that clubs have self interest and are simply willing to ensure competitive disadvantage is maintained.

Hence simplistic explanations like “business class” as they know fans are not educated to assess the depth of the arguement or the point. They think it’s all luxury and equate to being business class as some ultimate happiness. Indicator of peasant thinking really. Jet lag, sitting down, delayed recovery for hours doesn’t go away.

Yep, geography is real.

WA clubs should do what teams like Melbourne have done and spend a week out East and get two away games done without flying back and forth.

Sooking that they deserve extra home games is a nonsense.

 

[garlic munchers]

I have no issue with retaining all Vic based clubs, even those who are on their knees in front of the AFL so much their front teeth are worn away (no Collingwood supporters I’m not having a shot at you.. or suggesting you are receiving a shot).

Just fix the abomination that is the fixing of the GF at the MCG, which coincidentally is the biggest fix of all in a State that is the biggest grifter in the Aussie Federation.

The VAFL gave up access to the truckloads of money that would have been on offer for a rotating GF (cough up or you don’t get to host seems fair and at least test the market) and it also blew its easiest and simplest way to generate growth and interest in a so called National game, just so it could keep its shiny toy.

 

[Lunchtime]

I have no issue with retaining all Vic based clubs, even those who are on their knees in front of the AFL so much their front teeth are worn away (no Collingwood supporters I’m not having a shot at you.. or suggesting you are receiving a shot).

Just fix the abomination that is the fixing of the GF at the MCG, which coincidentally is the biggest fix of all in a State that is the biggest grifter in the Aussie Federation.

The VAFL gave up access to the truckloads of money that would have been on offer for a rotating GF (cough up or you don’t get to host seems fair and at least test the market) and it also blew its easiest and simplest way to generate growth and interest in a so called National game, just so it could keep its shiny toy.

Why fix the abomination? What's the issue with the Grand Final being at the MCG?

 

[Demons09]

Nah, they won't read any of that and will just accuse you of being a 'sook' and say "yOu joInED oUR LEagUe!!!!"

It should be we joined and saved your league and just put a token A instead of V in front of it.

 

[Demons09]

Why fix the abomination? What's the issue with the Grand Final being at the MCG?

Fairness.

 

[Jez1974]

The big 4 Melbourne clubs are Collingwood, Richmond, Essendon and Carlton.

Carlton havent finished top4 this century
Essendon haven't won a final in 20 hears
Richmond were s**t for 30+ years before eventually being good for a tiny window (which included Covid when no games were in Melbourne).

You just make up rubbish.

The teams who dominate H&A ladder are non Melbourne teams.


The travel is "unfair".

But that isnt the result of any bias, it is the result of geography.

Perth is in the middle of nowhere, so if you want to compete in a national competition where the 16 other teams are east coast based (like the Australian population) you are going to travel further for each of your away games.

If the Eagles don't want to travel, relocate somewhere on the east coast.

No sporting leagues can ever solve geography. Teams based in remote cities will ALWAYS travel more than those who are in major population hubs.

Every team plays each other twice home and away. That's the only fair way

 

[LoungeLizard]

It should be we joined and saved your league and just put a token A instead of V in front of it.

Why are you in a Vic bias thread saying this crap, it has nothing to do with the thread.

Ok, you saved our arses, thanks heaps, there, are you happy now?

Now? do you have anything to say that's related to the title?

 

[Demons09]

Why are you in a Vic bias thread saying this crap, it has nothing to do with the thread.

Ok, you saved our arses, thanks heaps, there, are you happy now?

Now? do you have anything to say that's related to the title?

Calling it the Australian Football league is the definition of irony.

 

[Jez1974]

Why are you in a Vic bias thread saying this crap, it has nothing to do with the thread.

Ok, you saved our arses, thanks heaps, there, are you happy now?

Now? do you have anything to say that's related to the title?

Feisty.........

 

[Jez1974]

Calling it the Australian Football league is the definition of irony.

Still vfl really

 

[LoungeLizard]

Calling it the Australian Football league is the definition of irony.

You're right about that, it's just a name, but it is still the VFL, I have been trying to tell you all that for years.
And guess what?
I doubt it will ever change.

 

[Underarm]

Calling it the Australian Football league is the definition of irony.

ftfy

 

[Lunchtime]

Fairness.

Are you referring to the Grand Final results?

 

[Coolangatta]

Yep, geography is real.

WA clubs should do what teams like Melbourne have done and spend a week out East and get two away games done without flying back and forth.

Sooking that they deserve extra home games is a nonsense.

This is a good idea. Not sure how many times the Eagles and Dockers play in Melbourne a year but say if it’s six, if they double up three times, that’s three less plane trips.

 

[doppleganger]

Every team plays each other twice home and away. That's the only fair way

Yep and guess what, WC would travel 16 times to Collingwood 8.

That is geography.

 

[doppleganger]

This is a good idea. Not sure how many times the Eagles and Dockers play in Melbourne a year but say if it’s six, if they double up three times, that’s three less plane trips.

They have 10 away games spread across 6 months.

So yeah instead of travelling back and forth across the continent 10 times, do 8 trips and have dbl header in Melbourne and a dbl header in NSW/QLD.

Do one early in the season, say April in Melbourne and then July for the QLD/NSW trip.

The "travel" load reduced, and players get chance to bond.

But no, the WC thinking is they deserve extra home games.