Rumour Voss about to walk?
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How many coaches do Carlton need to sack before they realise it isnt actually the coaches fault the club sucks?
They have 2x Coleman medalists, a Brownlow winner, a top 3 Brownlow player, Saad and Weitering AA defenders. There's no excuse for being s**t across multiple coaches reigns
That said Walsh is a stat padder, Saad turns it over as much as he doesnt, and McKay has gone to shite
They have 2x Coleman medalists, a Brownlow winner, a top 3 Brownlow player, Saad and Weitering AA defenders. There's no excuse for being s**t across multiple coaches reigns
That said Walsh is a stat padder, Saad turns it over as much as he doesnt, and McKay has gone to shite
Quick shoutout to the "journalists" that trawl Bigfooty for stories - there's a ripper about a monkey that someone needs to run.
Including Scott, Adams and Ratten in that is just ridiculous.
Scott was there for nearly 10 years...
Adams was a caretaker only ever intended to be a caretaker after Noble was sacked mid-season.
Ratten is there because of Clarkson's issues which have nothing to do with North Melbourne.
Shaw and Noble were both terrible appointments, there's no arguing that but the way you have crafted the 6 coaches thing is comically dumb.
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Really what does it matter if Cripps plays finals or not....plenty of players and star players have not played finals or maybe played one or two at best. It happens and seriously Cripps is just a good ordinary player especially over the last 4 years. Carlton fans should be only concerned about the future years not weather Cripps will retire with a finals game under his belt.
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Curious… how many Brownlow medalists never played a single final in their career?
Would be rare as.
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Bobby Skilton won 3 Brownlows and played in 1 losing final
If you had to bet on whether Cripps would win another two Brownlows or a final first, well, the smart money would be on the Brownlows.
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On topic:
Why would Voss walk? He’s getting sacked and no one will ever hire him as a senior coach again. May as well wring as many dollars out of the Blues as he can.
Why would Voss walk? He’s getting sacked and no one will ever hire him as a senior coach again. May as well wring as many dollars out of the Blues as he can.
Yep, pretty much.
You'd have no chance fronting up to the interview process and trying to explain to them the shortcomings in their list and the fact it will like take 3 to 4 years of drafting and trading to get the list anywhere near it needs to be to contend.
They'd laugh you out the door and explain to you 'Don't you realise we have Cripps, Curnow, McKay, Walsh and Weitering? All the pieces are already there!'
Since 1989 Geelong have had four coaches (Blight, Ayres, Thompson, Scott) with 0 sacked.
You're thinking of this all wrong.
Carlton are helping to keep the economy afloat by providing frequent job openings and opportunities.
Mmmm, it seems to permeate throughout the club, its supporter base, and basically anything to do with Carlton.
Even Essendon supporters seem more grounded, despite all their turmoil. It's quite bizarre to me that even after 2 decades of this that people aligned with Carlton still have no patience or no ability to look inward.
Reading the list management board, there's some on there now wanting to turf everyone including Cripps and Doch. This is kinda disturbing to even contemplate that for mine - as they're the heart and soul of the club. You get rid of them, and many, many others will join the exodus too.
There's a good core, but outside of those players, there's very few consistent role players who you can depend on every week. I'd take Cripps (not currently though), Curnow, Docherty, Walsh, Weitering, Saad, Cerra and maybe TDK (as we likely will), Hollands, Cottrell and Kemp as young talent, but outside of that, it drops off dramatically. This is everyone else who's played at least 1 AFL game:
H. McKay (solid, but massive mental yips to the point of hampering the team and sapping confidence)
Hewett (role player, but far too many inside mids so dropped, subbed, or played out of position)
Fisher
M. Kennedy (same as Hewett)
J. Motlop
Owies
L. Young
M. McGovern (injury prone, overpaid and lazy)
Newman
Z. Williams (gun but just too injury prone and overpaid as a result)
Acres
J. Martin (injury prone)
Marchbank (injury prone)
Cunningham (injury prone)
J. Silvagni (looked good last year, but dropped off a cliff since)
Pittonet
L. O'Brien
Honey
Philp
Durdin
J. Boyd
Cincotta
Plowman
Cowan
L. Fogarty
E. Curnow
Dow
Carroll
S. Durdin
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It's seriously bad reading for a side who has had so many Top 10 picks and so long rebuilding, changing coaches - and what do they have to show for it? A bottom 6 that most weeks wouldn't get a game with a Bottom 6 club...and a salary cap at breaking point, where players who are quite honestly useless, are getting paid more than guys who could actually be decent players if they weren't getting shafted in favour of others.
Whole thing is a mess, and their list is getting worse by the year, as the good players they do have, either age/decline in performance. Worst thing is barely any of them have played finals in their lives, 2 have played in a GF, and none have ever won a flag.
I think the thing that would be hardest for all the Carlton faithful to admit, is that maybe their list just isn't that good outside of their top end? Lot of high picks burned, but barely any development and constant breakdowns in the playing group.
I thought it had passed when Voss came in along with Cook, and some of the old heads left...but alas...it's here to stay.
Hell, I'd take our list just knowing what our development is no matter the picks - and we have nowhere near the amount of raw talent/high picks that Carlton have/had.
Like I said, a mess.
