WWE TV, Rumours and Discussion - Part VII

[RossFC]

Banned logos and faces in the WWE Thunderdome:

• AEW
• IMPACT Wrestling
• New Japan Pro-Wrestling
• Enzo Amore
• Kenny Omega
• Jon Moxley
• MJF
• Tony Khan
• Cody Rhodes
• Brandi Rhodes
• Marty Scurll
• The Young Bucks
• Chris Benoit
• CM Punk
• Jim Cornette
• Alberto El Patron
• Ryback
• Ashley Massaro
• “Superstar” Billy Graham
• Vickie Guerrero
• Flag of Hong Kong
• Flag of Taiwan
• Flag of Tibet

 

[NSWCROW]

AJ

 

[ULTIMATE_WARRIOR]

Only just caught up on RAW and I didn’t think it was half bad. I know it gets s**t canned a lot and rightfully so, but that last episode was an improvement in my opinion

 

[Cleavy]

Only just caught up on RAW and I didn’t think it was half bad. I know it gets sh*t canned a lot and rightfully so, but that last episode was an improvement in my opinion

for people like me who only read the reviews, how is it showing signs of improvement?

 

[RossFC]

for people like me who only read the reviews, how is it showing signs of improvement?

3 positives
McIntyre is a face people can actually cheer, Randy a great heel.
The Hurt Business
Keith Lee vs Strowman vs Sheamus, with AJ Styles wanting to be raw team captain.

Everything else, don't really care.

 

[Biggie]

3 positives
McIntyre is a face people can actually cheer, Randy a great heel.
The Hurt Business
Keith Lee vs Strowman vs Sheamus, with AJ Styles wanting to be raw team captain.

Everything else, don't really care.

The Bliss and Fiend angle is something I’m enjoying of late

 

[nobbyiscool]

Just a little pro tip for those who haven't yet discovered it, and who don't mind waiting - Kayo sports have started uploading Raw, SD and NXT about 36-48 hours after they're aired on Fox 8.

Why would anyone care? Because they cut they ads. The couple of times I've done it, it actually makes the show eminently more watchable (especially the sometimes epic-feeling Raw.) Not only because obviously the ads are cut, but cos the show flows better, and cos you get less time to start tuning out and doing other things.

Oh, the things I've learned over the last month while actually watching the show!

- While people will bash "rest hold Randy" and the Edge matches (and while I absolutely do not want to see Edge return and win the rumble), every single facet of Randy's work is the best it's ever been at the moment. Which is crazy - they have no crowds, he's old enough and rich enough that he could rest on his laurels, and he's at an age where he could probably command the Brock schedule. Instead he seems to have decided that he wants something to define his legacy, and he's realised that it could be the "dark" or "COVID" era.

- Roman Reigns is actually a hell of an actor when he's in his wheelhouse. You wouldn't ask Seth Rogan to play James Bond, and they never should've booked Roman as a face saying "suffering suckotash."

- Dominik Mysterio is not even close to ready to be in the ring. And while we should smile that our local Melbourne ledge Murphy is being trusted to guide him through passable matches, I'm not sure what happens to either of them next.

- It's a bummer that, for all the "women's revolution", Vince's fingerprints are still all over it. On in-ring talent and on promos, neither Dana Brooke, Mandy Rose or the other interchangeable blonde with Ruby Riotttttt have any business whatsoever being on this show. (And they are sending Toni Storm to NXT!)

- The Claymore has to be in the top 5 moves ever to depend entirely on how it's shot. When it's shot like it was on Brock before WM (when he took those 2 on the stage) it looked ******* brutal. When it was shot like it was last week at the end of Raw, it looks comical.

- While everyone has (rightly) turned their attention to Reigns/Uso... Bayley vs Sasha is the best thing going in WWE and it has been for year. *, if it weren't for a couple of mis-steps 3ish years ago, it might be WWE's very best rivalry over the last 5 years.

 

[Cleavy]

3 positives
McIntyre is a face people can actually cheer, Randy a great heel.
The Hurt Business
Keith Lee vs Strowman vs Sheamus, with AJ Styles wanting to be raw team captain.

Everything else, don't really care.

McIntyre has been good and well received since he won the title at WM.

 

[ULTIMATE_WARRIOR]

for people like me who only read the reviews, how is it showing signs of improvement?

Aside from the fact it’s far, far too long at 3 hours, and only a few weeks back it was very hard to watch, I felt the show this past week done an ok job of starting a story for the night and keeping it going throughout, to a sort of conclusion and interesting finish, won’t say cliffhanger but leaving you wanting more.

I also really like the fact that characters are crossing over into each other’s stories and that they are more intertwined. For a long time it was just a segment and then that was it for the night for the character. Last episode we seen McIntyre, Miz, Morrison, Orton, Wyatt, Bliss and Nikki Cross, even Sheamus sort of, all involved with one another but all having their own stories.

I think they’ve done a good job of placing everyone in the right role now. McIntyre would be over as hell with a crowd. Orton is at his career best currently as a heel. Wyatt and Alexa have been awesome together. The Hurt Business is one of the best things going, who 3 of the members were essentially charisma vacuums and are now actually interesting characters with MVP as their voice. And even Retribution, whilst for the most part are absolutely horrible, I’d rather watch Ali now as their leader than a bland and boring wrestler with no character.

That’s just RAW, which has been miles behind SmackDown, where in my opinion, the new Roman Reigns is must watch TV.

 

[Shaxx Attaxx]

Banned logos and faces in the WWE Thunderdome:

• AEW
• IMPACT Wrestling
• New Japan Pro-Wrestling
• Enzo Amore
• Kenny Omega
• Jon Moxley
• MJF
• Tony Khan
• Cody Rhodes
• Brandi Rhodes
• Marty Scurll
• The Young Bucks
• Chris Benoit
• CM Punk
• Jim Cornette
• Alberto El Patron
• Ryback
• Ashley Massaro
• “Superstar” Billy Graham
• Vickie Guerrero
• Flag of Hong Kong
• Flag of Taiwan
• Flag of Tibet

Well that would explain this shirt... https://www.prowrestlingtees.com/wrestler-t-shirts/youngbucks/banned.html

 

[Chops18]

Just a little pro tip for those who haven't yet discovered it, and who don't mind waiting - Kayo sports have started uploading Raw, SD and NXT about 36-48 hours after they're aired on Fox 8.

Why would anyone care? Because they cut they ads. The couple of times I've done it, it actually makes the show eminently more watchable (especially the sometimes epic-feeling Raw.) Not only because obviously the ads are cut, but cos the show flows better, and cos you get less time to start tuning out and doing other things.

Oh, the things I've learned over the last month while actually watching the show!

- While people will bash "rest hold Randy" and the Edge matches (and while I absolutely do not want to see Edge return and win the rumble), every single facet of Randy's work is the best it's ever been at the moment. Which is crazy - they have no crowds, he's old enough and rich enough that he could rest on his laurels, and he's at an age where he could probably command the Brock schedule. Instead he seems to have decided that he wants something to define his legacy, and he's realised that it could be the "dark" or "COVID" era.

- Roman Reigns is actually a hell of an actor when he's in his wheelhouse. You wouldn't ask Seth Rogan to play James Bond, and they never should've booked Roman as a face saying "suffering suckotash."

- Dominik Mysterio is not even close to ready to be in the ring. And while we should smile that our local Melbourne ledge Murphy is being trusted to guide him through passable matches, I'm not sure what happens to either of them next.

- It's a bummer that, for all the "women's revolution", Vince's fingerprints are still all over it. On in-ring talent and on promos, neither Dana Brooke, Mandy Rose or the other interchangeable blonde with Ruby Riotttttt have any business whatsoever being on this show. (And they are sending Toni Storm to NXT!)

- The Claymore has to be in the top 5 moves ever to depend entirely on how it's shot. When it's shot like it was on Brock before WM (when he took those 2 on the stage) it looked ******* brutal. When it was shot like it was last week at the end of Raw, it looks comical.

- While everyone has (rightly) turned their attention to Reigns/Uso... Bayley vs Sasha is the best thing going in WWE and it has been for year. fu**, if it weren't for a couple of mis-steps 3ish years ago, it might be WWE's very best rivalry over the last 5 years.

If you don't want to wait the extra day or two there's a site called watchprowrestling.com that uploads all shows on the day. Usually about an hr after the live broadcast finishes you get the full show uploaded. They also do a alot of the network shows, all PPV's, AEW, NJPW, ROH, Impact and also do UFC and Bellator if those things interest you. All free too which is always a positive.

 

[Cleavy]

The Undertaker's 'Final Farewell' set for WWE Survivor Series

Thirty years after debuting at the same event, The Undertaker's "Final Farewell" will take place at Survivor Series. WWE sent out a press release today

www.f4wonline.com

oh boy, Undertaker TikTok Challenge!

 

[The Casey Cat]

Only just caught SD. Holly #### what a let down after the last few weeks. Absolute rubbish after Banks v Bailey.

 

[ptrg]

Captain Styles is very enjoyable to watch.

And really enjoyed that tag match. Actual characters, all very different, and clashing. That’s wrasslin!

 

[ptrg]

WTF!? They removed the Jaws intro tune from the start of Hurt Business entrance!
That was the best part - so cool and menacing!
Now it’s just nothing background music.

Either someone has meddled because this is wwe after all, or they got copyrighted for the jaws similarity

 

[Chops18]

I'm thinking Lana gets the W for the Raw women at Survivor Series

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[Cleavy]

I'm thinking Lana gets the W for the Raw women at Survivor Series

On SM-G950F using BigFooty.com mobile app

Nia comes out to celebrate, pretends she's going to put Lana through a table but hugs her instead, then puts her through a table anyway?

 

[Cleavy]

so Orton vs McIntyre on RAW next week for the title. Title switch to change the Survivor Series match vs Reigns? MITB cash-in? Crap DQ finish?

 

[RossFC]

John Morrison shouldn't have bothered coming back to WWE, been jobbing non-stop. Even Orton made sure to say he wrestled in the "minor leagues".

 

[Cleavy]

John Morrison shouldn't have bothered coming back to WWE, been jobbing non-stop. Even Orton made sure to say he wrestled in the "minor leagues".

we all could have told him that it was going to happen. hope the money is good.

 

[The Casey Cat]

John Morrison shouldn't have bothered coming back to WWE, been jobbing non-stop. Even Orton made sure to say he wrestled in the "minor leagues".

Playing second fiddle to the ####en Miz of all people.

 

[ptrg]

so Orton vs McIntyre on RAW next week for the title. Title switch to change the Survivor Series match vs Reigns? MITB cash-in? Crap DQ finish?

Feels like it might be to give Drew his final rematch, let Sheamus interfere, moving Drew on from Orton/the title

 

[Cleavy]

Feels like it might be to give Drew his final rematch, let Sheamus interfere, moving Drew on from Orton/the title

could be on to something there.

 

[mackem]

Feels like it might be to give Drew his final rematch, let Sheamus interfere, moving Drew on from Orton/the title

IIRC someone posted that Drew was going to be champion until at least the Royal Rumble a few weeks ago.

 

[ULTIMATE_WARRIOR]

Feels like it might be to give Drew his final rematch, let Sheamus interfere, moving Drew on from Orton/the title

As long as they can keep McIntyres character and his story relatively hot moving forward, I’m happy with that.

Sure hope he gets another big title fued again later on and doesn’t slowly fade away from the main event scene though.