Dixon is worth Port's first round pick and that is where it ends. I can't see any reason why the Suns would need to give Port a pick. If they did then Port will be laughing all the way.
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They could downgrade there pick 7 like they did with the Polec deal.Port have been very shrewd traders over the past years, which has helped them dramatically with their rebuild.
From Ebert, Monfries, Polec to Ryder the deals have all been in their favour.
Added to that, players coming out of contract very rarely see win/win scenarios at the time of trade.
If Port are going to trade a pick as high as 7, I think theyll be xpecting somethingelse back aswell.
Port have been very shrewd traders over the past years, which has helped them dramatically with their rebuild.
From Ebert, Monfries, Polec to Ryder the deals have all been in their favour.
Added to that, players coming out of contract very rarely see win/win scenarios at the time of trade.
If Port are going to trade a pick as high as 7, I think theyll be xpecting somethingelse back aswell.
They might expect or like something back doesn't mean the Suns will give it to them. Port's first pick is fair for Dixon. Getting something back totally rips the Suns off. You would be giving Port a pick for what? If Port want a pick back then give the Suns a middle tier player.
I'd agree Beams was only worth a top 5 pick last yearAre you saying that every trade should only involve a single player for a single pick?
And any other factors should be ignored?
Are you saying that every trade should only involve a single player for a single pick?
And any other factors should be ignored?
No. That's not what he was saying at all.
Brisbane supporters like you are so cute c:I'd agree Beams was only worth a top 5 pick last year
Are you saying that every trade should only involve a single player for a single pick?
And any other factors should be ignored?
What i am saying is if Dixon wants to go to Port then their first round pick is a fair trade. Why does their need to be a pick going back to Port? What have Port given to get a pick back? If you can manage that arrangement good for your club but i can't see why Suns would entertain it. In essence your saying give us your second pick back because we need it!
What other factors are you talking about? Why can't they just trade a player for their first round pick, been done before many a time.
Then we disagree. Anyway so you say you would be happy to trade pick 7 for Dixon. I defintely would not trade pick 7 for a player who has managed 63 games in five seasons unless I was certain the injury would not repeat. And that looks extremely unlikely.
Port have been very shrewd traders over the past years, which has helped them dramatically with their rebuild.
From Ebert, Monfries, Polec to Ryder the deals have all been in their favour.
Added to that, players coming out of contract very rarely see win/win scenarios at the time of trade.
If Port are going to trade a pick as high as 7, I think theyll be xpecting somethingelse back aswell.
then drop outThen we disagree. Anyway so you say you would be happy to trade pick 7 for Dixon. I defintely would not trade pick 7 for a player who has managed 63 games in five seasons unless I was certain the injury would not repeat. And that looks extremely unlikely.
Then we disagree. Anyway so you say you would be happy to trade pick 7 for Dixon. I defintely would not trade pick 7 for a player who has managed 63 games in five seasons unless I was certain the injury would not repeat. And that looks extremely unlikely.
I agree his ankles are very suspect. But if Port want him then that is not Suns problem. Just because their is concern about his fitness doesn't mean Suns have to give Port something back. If you guys want him you have to make the running otherwise he stays at the Gold Coast or another club gets involved.
Personally i think with every passing week the chances of him staying are growing. Clubs must be concerned watching him limp around half a game. Wouldn't surprise me if the money being reported is reduced. He is a massive risk.
What i am saying is if Dixon wants to go to Port then their first round pick is a fair trade. Why does their need to be a pick going back to Port? What have Port given to get a pick back? If you can manage that arrangement good for your club but i can't see why Suns would entertain it. In essence your saying give us your second pick back because we need it!
What other factors are you talking about? Why can't they just trade a player for their first round pick, been done before many a time.
IIRC the rumoured offer from the Suns was about 400k a year. That's a pretty conservative offer but you really have to be if you're in the Suns' shoes. You can't go breaking the bank for a guy that is injured for half of the season, especially when it's becoming increasingly obvious that Tom Lynch has more value to the team. Remember, Tom Lynch is coming off contract next year. Everyone wants bang for buck and here is a statistical comparison between Lynch and Dixon in 2015:It's a real shame that Dixon's ability when he's not injured is worth a top 10 pick and a player, yet his worth due to his ankles is barely a first round pick. There's a balance that the Suns will have to agree upon should Dixon pack up and leave for a better offer.
I don't think there will be any ill will wished upon him by Suns supporters if he takes up an offer elsewhere of more money or a longer contract (unless it's the Lions, because it actually gives us a reason to dislike them), but it'll be a huge shame if he leaves. Again, I'm not convinced the offers elsewhere will be as big an increase as reported in the media, with Dixon still a possibility/probability to stay.
Remember, Suns are privy to his medical record and history which other potential clubs are not, which could very well be one of the reasons why his Suns offer is rumoured to be significantly lower than other clubs' despite Dixon playing such a massive role in our forward line.
The best possible scenario for the Suns should he leave would be what Corkie has mentioned, with the Suns picking up picks 3 and 7 in the ND.
His upside is so much better than that. Missed early games in the season because of his ankle, and more often than not he plays well even with an injured ankle.Dixon
Games: 14
Goals: 36
Behinds: 15
Charlie appears to be giving slightly more than Lynch at the moment and it is important to note that Dixon two years older than Lynch. What those stats don't show is the amount of times Dixon has been subbed off or time spent on the bench.
That is a silly argument
So just because port want him , port should ignore any concerns about how many games he will play , and his history and give gc anything they want?
It could be said your argument is silly. You only look at it through Port eyes. Sure he is a risk but if thats the case don't trade for him. You want your cake and eat it. As i have said you may well get something back but don't think for one minute that the Suns are going to just fold. Your talking like the Suns owe it to Port to give them something back? Why ? Because he has dodgy ankles? Again that's Port's problem if they want him.
Your talking like Port will say to the Suns look you can have our first pick but you better give us pick in the early 20's because we don't trust those ankles. Do you think the Suns will say yeah those ankles are bit dodgy we better give you our second pick as insurance for you guys. They couldn't care less about Port. If Dixon wants out the Suns need to do the best for the club not help Port out.