List Mgmt. 2020 Draft and Trade Hypotheticals - Part 2 (The 2020 Draft)

[RUNVS]

When we are in the 8 is the time and moving towards a premiership is the time. Otherwise you end up as an Essendon.

Yep, focus on the draft right now, build from within.

 

[mikey_san]

On the note of Carruthers, every one is focusing on his position. At his level that literally doesn't matter, he could be anything imo. The reason we picked him up are cause of foot skills.

Draft for talent, not position.

Though I don't think we take him if we get DGB

Foot skills and running. The write-ups on him are quite encouraging, might need a year in the gym.
Weird how he goes in the rookie, but Dylan Stephens

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Dylan Stephens

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24

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184cm

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80kg

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Mid

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10.3

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7.0

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3.3

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3.0

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1.7

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0.0

1star

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10.3

3star

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7.0

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3.3

2star

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3.0

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1.7

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0.0

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10.3

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7.0

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3.3

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3.0

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1.7

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0.0

1star

in the top 10. He looks a similar type, equal runner - more adventurous kick.

 

[mikey_san]

No will Papley

Would have been a value pick on the basis defenders would struggle to tell him apart from the good one. Would have been fun to watch the confusion.
Draft guru types seem to think he'll be a shot next year as an overage player.

 

[RUNVS]

Anyone else think that this is the first time in a long time that every player we took in the national draft stands a good chance of being in the team in round 1?

 

[Superstar swan]

Anyone else think that this is the first time in a long time that every player we took in the national draft stands a good chance of being in the team in round 1?

I’m not sold on gulden being best 22 straight away.

Mcdonald I think should be in the team but don’t expect much in his first year or so. Incredibly hard position for young bloke to play.

Campbell I expect to come in and have an impact straight away. May not have huge numbers but his kicking will be dangerous

 

[BloodySwan]

Anyone else think that this is the first time in a long time that every player we took in the national draft stands a good chance of being in the team in round 1?

Happens when you're a bottom four team

 

[Olian]

When we are in the 8 is the time and moving towards a premiership is the time. Otherwise you end up as an Essendon.

Not necessarily, Saints recruited well at the end of 2019 while a bottom 4 team having just appointed Ratten.

 

[Olian]

Anyone else think that this is the first time in a long time that every player we took in the national draft stands a good chance of being in the team in round 1?

No can’t see Gulden getting a game unless we have significant injuries.

 

[Bandicoot]

Terribly disappointed with our trade period but redeemed ourselves with the draft.

Campbell looks ready for rd 1, carries himself as a senior player and those kicks are what dreams are made of. Loading up on him for rising star

Going to be hard to beat Rowell for the Rising Star.

 

[Bandicoot]

I just dont think he's that type. He'll also be dealing with our midfield delivery.

Lets see, he has a great conversion rate so there is definately a possibility he becomes that forward. Hopefully some Buddy stardust rubs off on him.

I'm still on the DGB bandwagon... so i'm a little biased.

DGB was never going to break a game open so I don't see your logic here.

 

[caesar88]

DGB was never going to break a game open so I don't see your logic here.

But he's gonna be the best player in the AFL! Because... he wants to be!

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

Going to be hard to beat Rowell for the Rising Star.

Rowell might not be the same player again with his shoulder injury.

 

[anotherletdown]

DGB was never going to break a game open so I don't see your logic here.

Different position, different expectation.

I just have a feeling DGB has the higher ceiling.

 

[RUNVS]

Different position, different expectation.

I just have a feeling DGB has the higher ceiling.

I thought so too to be honest, but I hope I am wrong.

 

[Dubsforsam1]

Good depth coming through

Cunningham, Melican, Rampe
Mills, McCartin, Lloyd
Hewett, Blakey, Dawson
Hayward, McDonald, Reid
Papley, Franklin, Heeney
Hickey, Parker, Rowbottom

Fox, Florent, Campbell, McInerney

Reserves - Gulden, COR Brand, Stephens etc

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[DeadlyAkkuret]

When is the next opportunity for us to get Paddy? Really want that to go through.


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[Kiama Chris]

Good depth coming through

Cunningham, Melican, Rampe
Mills, McCartin, Lloyd
Hewett, Blakey, Dawson
Hayward, McDonald, Reid
Papley, Franklin, Heeney
Hickey, Parker, Rowbottom

Fox, Florent, Campbell, McInerney

Reserves - Gulden, COR Brand, Stephens etc

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Pretty close to Rd 1 I reckon. Think Stephens will be in either for injury or Hayward or Florent.
For sure McDonald will get a run in the trials but maybe not Rd1. Probably Stephens to replace.

 

[Dubai Quacker]

Pretty close to Rd 1 I reckon. Think Stephens will be in either for injury or Hayward or Florent.
For sure McDonald will get a run in the trials but maybe not Rd1. Probably Stephens to replace.

Lets be fair dinkum here - key forwards don’t really dominate until their mid 20’s.

McD needs time. We can’t expect game breaking performances in his first few years.

Buddy will be a special guest star, nothing more.

We desperately need the Haywards and Reids to step up. Heeney & Papley can’t do it all.

 

[Wolftone]

Lets be fair dinkum here - key forwards don’t really dominate until their mid 20’s.

McD needs time. We can’t expect game breaking performances in his first few years.

Buddy will be a special guest star, nothing more.

We desperately need the Haywards and Reids to step up. Heeney & Papley can’t do it all.

Mcdonald was the leading goal kicker in the WAFL this year. He played against men. Yes AFL is a step up but I still think he will play round 1. Our team could look a bit different next year as the picks we have made are all ready to go.

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[mtooler]

Still over the moon we didnt take a defender at pick 4.

 

[replicant]

Pretty close to Rd 1 I reckon. Think Stephens will be in either for injury or Hayward or Florent.
For sure McDonald will get a run in the trials but maybe not Rd1. Probably Stephens to replace.

Kennedy gets a run you'd think?

 

[caesar88]

Still over the moon we didnt take a defender at pick 4.

This.

If Hawthorn are lucky, DGB, the kid they just used essentially a top 5 pick on, will be as good as James Sicily

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James Sicily

Age

30

Ht

188cm

Wt

90kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

12.7

5star

HB

5.7

4star

M

6.3

5star

T

1.5

3star

MG

365.0

5star

D

19.4

4star

K

14.3

5star

HB

5.1

3star

M

5.9

5star

T

1.0

2star

MG

437.4

5star

D

10.0

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

4.0

3star

M

4.2

4star

T

2.0

4star

MG

173.8

3star

(pick 56), Harris Andrews

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Harris Andrews

Age

29

Ht

200cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.8

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

5.6

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

151.7

2star

D

17.0

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

8.0

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.0

3star

D

9.8

3star

K

5.0

2star

HB

4.8

4star

M

3.4

4star

T

1.6

4star

MG

94.0

2star

(pick 61), Luke Ryan (pick 66), Jeremy McGovern

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Jeremy Mcgovern

Age

33

Ht

197cm

Wt

97kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.7

4star

K

10.1

4star

HB

4.6

3star

M

6.8

5star

T

1.5

3star

MG

238.7

4star

D

12.4

3star

K

8.6

3star

HB

3.8

3star

M

6.4

5star

T

2.0

3star

MG

183.4

3star

D

11.0

3star

K

8.8

4star

HB

2.2

2star

M

7.2

5star

T

1.4

4star

(rookie), Dane Rampe

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Dane Rampe

Age

35

Ht

187cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.0

4star

K

10.6

4star

HB

6.4

4star

M

4.9

5star

T

2.5

4star

MG

358.8

5star

D

14.1

3star

K

9.0

4star

HB

5.1

3star

M

3.4

3star

T

1.5

2star

MG

284.5

4star

D

10.6

3star

K

7.2

3star

HB

3.4

3star

M

2.4

3star

T

1.4

4star

(rookie), Tom Jonas (rookie), Dylan Grimes

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Dylan Grimes

Age

34

Ht

194cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.6

3star

K

6.3

2star

HB

5.3

4star

M

3.9

4star

T

2.4

4star

MG

136.0

2star

D

12.2

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

4.8

3star

M

4.7

4star

T

1.4

2star

MG

136.0

2star

D

9.4

3star

K

3.8

2star

HB

5.6

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.0

3star

(pre-season draft), Sam Collins (delisted free agent), or even former star defenders like Heath Grundy

Heath Grundy

Age

39

Ht

192cm

Wt

105kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.6

4star

K

9.4

4star

HB

7.2

4star

M

5.2

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

231.9

4star

No current season stats available

D

8.2

2star

K

6.4

3star

HB

1.8

2star

M

3.8

4star

T

0.8

3star

(rookie) or Josh Gibson

Josh Gibson

Age

41

Ht

189cm

Wt

93kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.4

4star

K

9.0

3star

HB

8.4

5star

M

5.1

5star

T

2.1

4star

MG

196.5

3star

No current season stats available

D

13.8

4star

K

6.2

3star

HB

7.6

5star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.6

4star

(rookie).

It is not easy to develop a star defender, but it is the easiest to develop from a low base. More than any supporter base, I would expect Swans fans to recognise this, given our 2012 premiership defence literally consisted of a pick 57, a pick 64, two rookies, and three discards from other clubs.

And while I can understand the logic of saving ourselves the guesswork and the years of development by recruiting a junior defender who already has all the makings of a star, I believe a top 5 pick should be used on a talent that you're unlikely to find at any other stage of the draft. Highly skilful midfielders and prolific key forwards are a lot harder to come by once you get out of the first round of a draft, even once you get past the top 10, unless you have a ridiculous draft pool like that of 2018.

But I don't know why I'm arguing this case. I think the actions of the two clubs involved here just prove it. Swans have a choice between DGB & McDonald, they take the prolific key forward over the defender. Hawks have the choice between DGB & Campbell, they take the highly skilful midfielder over the defender.

It is not being appreciated enough what a massive bullet we dodged, and what a massive opportunity we capitalised on.

 

[Kiama Chris]

Kennedy gets a run you'd think?

Probs

 

[Del198236]

When is the next opportunity for us to get Paddy? Really want that to go through.


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I think this is how it works??
Theres a pre-season supplementary selection period.. that goes from Jan to March.
I think this involves mainly players that are invited to train in the pre season. Paddy did a little last year, If he does more this year, then you'd have to give him a chance. Paps brother might join, a ruck might also join??
People on here reckon we've 1 rookie spot left - I can't work it out so happy to go with that.
So the Swans can pick up a rookie during this time

 

[LukeParkerno1]

I think this is how it works??
Theres a pre-season supplementary selection period.. that goes from Jan to March.
I think this involves mainly players that are invited to train in the pre season. Paddy did a little last year, If he does more this year, then you'd have to give him a chance. Paps brother might join, a ruck might also join??
People on here reckon we've 1 rookie spot left - I can't work it out so happy to go with that.
So the Swans can pick up a rookie during this time

Think we have 1 left might have 2 if Naismith goes on the LTI list.