List Mgmt. 2016 NAB Draft Picks #9 and #19

[Dubsforsam1]

Surely any decision on a back will depend on the fitness of Johnson/Reid.

 

[Teddy chester]

SPS is the player the swans lack

 

[Blacky]

SPS is the player the swans lack

Every chance it will be another Rohan/Jetta

 

[mtooler]

SPS is the player the swans lack

And we need about 3 of them.

 

[mtooler]

Every chance it will be another Rohan/Jetta

3rd time lucky?

 

[swansfan51]

3rd time lucky?

Towers was also meant to be that player, so 4th time lucky. Hiscox too, so 5th time lucky.

 

[scaryness]

I'm fine taking Logue but only if Scrimshaw isn't available.

Scrimshaw is the 2nd closest player to the prototype midfielder of Bont/Fyfe etc. A bit light of frame right now but that will come.

I'm sure by now that everyone has noticed how much I want Sydney to draft this kid haha.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Scrimshaw at 9 please, but ONLY if SPS isn't there. SPS would be the perfect selection personally.

At 19, I'd be looking at Battle as that 3rd tall up forward, or a genuine outside mid

 

[LukeParkerno1]

I feel West Coast would have picked him at 12. That's why we traded up.

West Coast fans would riot if they didn't pick a genuine mid to help Priddis out. They have a lot of outsides, but very little inside mids.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

9 Marshall (or Logue... i think we go tall either way).
19 Best available midfielder. Let's say Jy Simpkin, but who knows who's there at 19.

If we go tall at 9, I might go nuts! This isn't the draft to go tall, 2017 is. We don't need talls for next season. What we need is speed through the middle and linebreaking speed through defence.

Scrimshaw/SPS at 9 (or someone like that)- Taranto would have been the only forward type I'd consider here (he will go to Carlton probably)

19 is tough but I'd like a genuine outside runner or winger.

 

[Tuco]

Grundy is 192, Rance is 194. Logue at 193 is more than tall enough considering his athletic abilities.

Physical strength and/or a good leap matches height any day. But if you're closer to 190 than 195 you need footy smarts and plenty of help upfield if the coach is going to put you anywhere near a monster.

193 for Logue seems bang on if he's athletic and can play.

Twomy rated him at 17 in September on the basis he played in the midfield and got 33 possessions and even pinch hit as a ruckman. And he thinks the Swans like him.

If he can play tall but stand in the midfield a la JPK and bust through the lines he certainly sounds interesting.

 

[CD__]

Agree that I think Scrimshaw is who we traded up to get...Fremantle will take SPS for sure.

 

[replicant]

If we go tall at 9, I might go nuts! This isn't the draft to go tall, 2017 is. We don't need talls for next season. What we need is speed through the middle and linebreaking speed through defence.

Scrimshaw/SPS at 9 (or someone like that)- Taranto would have been the only forward type I'd consider here (he will go to Carlton probably)

19 is tough but I'd like a genuine outside runner or winger.

Yes, but next year we might have pick 17 or 18, not 9. What's the point in a draft with lots of talls, if the best ones are gone before our first pick anyway?

 

[McRobie]

Agree that I think Scrimshaw is who we traded up to get...Fremantle will take SPS for sure.

Scrimshaw a turnover merchant who can't defend, no idea why people are so keen?


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[BloodySwan]

I'm a little lost over the Logue love. Defense is not an area we lack, it's never been an area we have really lacked. We lack good kicks, speed and a real forward after Buddy.

The club will go after whoever is the best kick at that pick. Just check out our MO after last draft. They said repeatably they wanted kids with elite kicking.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

I would not like to go with him even if he was still available at our first pick. I see him as a similar to Jetta - will play a good game or two and then go missing for a few weeks.

Nothing like Jetta at all
He's hard in and under and more inside than outside
Speed is average
Agility and very 2 sided . Nothing like Jetta at all really

 

[anotherletdown]

Logue could gone by our pick though. Freo will look hard at him at 7. His combine was outstanding.

Freo are in a tough spot. It's highly likely English, SPS and Logue will be available at their pick. All from WA and all have big potential.

Which also means our pick 9 is pretty valuable

 

[melbournehammer]

That's why I wanted tuey or Deledio of HB

Deledio will kill it at gws

deledio will kill it anywhere. the stats of win loss at the tigers when he plays and when he doesnt are outrageous.

but we couldnt afford him.

 

[doona]

Yes, but next year we might have pick 17 or 18, not 9. What's the point in a draft with lots of talls, if the best ones are gone before our first pick anyway?

This is what I am thinking, especially as the past 2 years we have had arguably the best mids in the draft and we still have pick 19 in this draft where there will be several mids still available.

 

[bungwahl]

I'm a little lost over the Logue love. Defense is not an area we lack, it's never been an area we have really lacked. We lack good kicks, speed and a real forward after Buddy.

The club will go after whoever is the best kick at that pick. Just check out our MO after last draft. They said repeatably they wanted kids with elite kicking.

I think Logue is an exciting prospect. Great size, high athletic ability and a big boot. His 3km time and 15.1 beep test backs up the claims he's a potential midfielder which would finally give JPK a big bodied partner. I don't think he'd start in the mids but could certainly pinch hit through there.

Just getting the best kick isn't ideal for Sydney. Jetta was a great kick!

 

[anotherletdown]

Agree about GC. They nearly have as many picks as they have needs.

Reckon Bowes will get bid on quite early and they'll end up with taranto

I reckon they'll get Brodie, Bowes, SPS and Scrimshaw

 

[BloodySwan]

I think Logue is an exciting prospect. Great size, high athletic ability and a big boot. His 3km time and 15.1 beep test backs up the claims he's a potential midfielder which would finally give JPK a big bodied partner. I don't think he'd start in the mids but could certainly pinch hit through there.

Just getting the best kick isn't ideal for Sydney. Jetta was a great kick!

And without Jetta we wouldn't have won in '12. While he may not be the best we need a team which has more than one aspect. The Swans are very one directional and SOME good kicks would be ideal. We rely heavily on McVeigh & Lloyd.

Last year the Swans said "Our main strategy in the draft was to try to improve our kicking skills, we lost 'Jetts' (Lewis Jetta) and 'Shawry' (Rhyce Shaw), and (Nick) Malceski the year before, and we were a bit light on for guys who could really kick it." This won't change. We still haven't replaced those three. It'll be kicks first then everything else

 

[Blacky]

I reckon they'll get Brodie, Bowes, SPS and Scrimshaw

No KPP?

 

[CD__]

Scrimshaw a turnover merchant who can't defend, no idea why people are so keen?


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I think you're being incredibly harsh...he is going to be a special talent in my opinion.

 

[bungwahl]

And without Jetta we wouldn't have won in '12. While he may not be the best we need a team which has more than one aspect. The Swans are very one directional and SOME good kicks would be ideal. We rely heavily on McVeigh & Lloyd.

Last year the Swans said "Our main strategy in the draft was to try to improve our kicking skills, we lost 'Jetts' (Lewis Jetta) and 'Shawry' (Rhyce Shaw), and (Nick) Malceski the year before, and we were a bit light on for guys who could really kick it." This won't change. We still haven't replaced those three. It'll be kicks first then everything else

I don't think anyone would argue that we're short on foot skills (might argue that Shaw was a butcher half the time though), but I can't see us trading up to pick 9 to take a guy who's just a good kick. It makes a lot more sense that we'd be targeting a specific player and Logue is just one who stands out and it'd make sense for us to want to leapfrog West Coast.

I don't think Logue is the only option for pick 9 and if other top prospects slide we could well go someone totally different. It's only speculation at this stage.