Analysis 2017 List Management Discussion Part II

[ericpascoe]

So 5 gone so far that leaves Buckley Gorringe Thomas Simpson Graham Boekhurst Casboult in the yet to be decided group on the Senior List

G-Mac Sheehan Gallucci from the Rookie List

Of these I reckon Gorringe, Sheehan, Galluci will be gone this week
Graham and Simpson will get a contract
Thomas will be offered a year
Buckley and Boekhorst will depend on trade week / salary cap
Casboult - contract on table - if he gets a better offer, bye bye
Smedts?????????

 

[Mister Carlton]

What went wrong with KJ?

We traded for him.

 

[zeeCFC]

Not sure what's wrong. Palmer is signed for 2018 but will be paid out

Twas a gag ep, you said I wouldn't be surprised, I was

Love your work

 

[Soapy V]

Of these I reckon Gorringe, Sheehan, Galluci will be gone this week
Graham and Simpson will get a contract
Thomas will be offered a year
Buckley and Boekhorst will depend on trade week / salary cap
Casboult - contract on table - if he gets a better offer, bye bye
Smedts?????????

Smedts will be interesting. IMO not up to it. I would have had Graham in the wait until trade week bracket myself. Thanks for all the info ep. Greatly appreciated

 

[Lawrence Angwin]

Interesting that Andrew McKay in his injury report lists all the players that will be right for preseason, but says Buckley after minor knee surgery will be "Back on his feet before you know it".
No surprises here, but another indication that he won't be offered another contract.



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[Soapy V]

How desperately do we think we'll need that list spot? Or are we so far under the cap this is a way to get above 95% by having an early payout?

I read it as it's another sign that SOS will be aggressive again in regenerating our list. It's great to see that if they don't think someone is up to it see you later. Looks to me we are well on our way to another 10 plus changes whilst keeping some depth/role players around

 

[Mister Carlton]

Can confirm that Gibbs will be staying at Carlton.

That's unfortunate.

 

[Azul]

Good: Marchbank, Plowman, Pickett
Bad: Whiley, Palmer, Jaksch, Sumner
Ugly: Lamb, Phillips

 

[Soapy V]

Of these I reckon Gorringe, Sheehan, Galluci will be gone this week
Graham and Simpson will get a contract
Thomas will be offered a year
Buckley and Boekhorst will depend on trade week / salary cap
Casboult - contract on table - if he gets a better offer, bye bye
Smedts?????????

so we are looking at between 8-12 changes

 

[Canyouhearthedrums]

Simple. View is he is unmotivated. Silver spoon. Sadly, talented but a bit of a floater

It's funny how we see those who aren't motivated as 'wasting' their talent. The mental side of the game is as big a 'talent' as being tall or fast or strong. KJ hasn't wasted his talent, he simply isn't talented enough to make it...suppose the sad thing is that you can't control how tall you are but you can control how hard you work. I feel sorry for kids like him - its a long, long career staring at a keyboard 9-5 (and beyond). Wonder if he'll ever regret the outcome.

 

[Arr0w]

Good: Marchbank, Plowman, Pickett
Bad: Whiley, Palmer, Jaksch, Sumner
Ugly: Lamb, Phillips

Harsh

 

[Arr0w]

Can confirm that Gibbs will be staying at Carlton.

Appreciate the info Vafa06

Could this situation change if the Crows approach the situation better than they did last year, or is the club adamant that he is off the table?

Thanks in advance

 

[Azul]

It's funny how we see those who aren't motivated as 'wasting' their talent. The mental side of the game is as big a 'talent' as being tall or fast or strong. KJ hasn't wasted his talent, he simply isn't talented enough to make it

I think we put too much emphasis on a 17 year old's potential. Jaksch was a tall kid in a very ordinary draft for KPP and didn't exactly set the world on fire in his first two years - so Rogers was going on a feeling.

 

[Azul]

Harsh

Why do you say that? Tuco is the real hero of the film and gets the best lines.

 

[Jeremias]

That's unfortunate.

Very different to what we're hearing from #MCpearls

 

[SkyhorseTamer]

Seems to be tight lipped about cuningham.. no one knows anything wonder if he will be part of a trade?

August 21st:

Cuningham won't be a part of any trade.

 

[bluekidjoe]

Not sure what's wrong. Palmer is signed for 2018 but will be paid out

I heard that on at least one occasion Palmer was a bit dishonest as to why he had to miss a session(s) and may have been openly deceitful to important people. When I heard this I got the impression that he wasn't very aware or didn't really care about external eyes.

 

[Robertio]

That's unfortunate.

You would rather see him playing for Adelaide hugging Eddie and Sauce after a goal. That would really piss me off.

 

[Soapy V]

Will supporters be happy with

Hopper for 2018 Second Round
Balic for Boekhurst
Pick 3
Casboult compo

Then another 3-4 draft picks

I'm sure SOS will pull some other deals but at the moment we don't have a lot to play with

 

[Azul]

I heard that on at least one occasion Palmer was a bit dishonest as to why he had to miss a session(s) and may have been openly deceitful to important people. When I heard this I got the impression that he wasn't very aware or didn't really care about external eyes.

Thanks for the info - gives some context to the enigma of how someone can be signed to a 2 year contract extension, play in a preliminary final, get traded and only manage 1 appearance for a bottom 3 side.

 

[Quazza]

Will supporters be happy with

Hopper for 2018 Second Round

than that by the GWS board - see if their supports are happy with it

 

[RudyBlue]

We should let the guy move on with his life post-football.

Think of all the skating videos he could make

 

[ODNBlue]

It's been suggested in the Bluemour thread that Buckley is in the box seat for a spot if we have a spot on our list after everything is said and done.

I simply don't understand this at all. He's not even a very good VFL player. Nick Graham is a very good VFL player. Nick might scrape through with a spot. Surely Buckley is done.

 

[Azul]

Graham doesn't have his own web tv show.

 

[Soapy V]

It's been suggested in the Bluemour thread that Buckley is in the box seat for a spot if we have a spot on our list after everything is said and done.

I simply don't understand this at all. He's not even a very good VFL player. Nick Graham is a very good VFL player. Nick might scrape through with a spot. Surely Buckley is done.

I agree. I just think SOS is hedging his bets. Ideally he will want to bring in more young talent but it depends upon what he can swing during trade week. Happened last year as well.