List Mgmt. 2020 Draft and Trade Hypotheticals - Part 2 (The 2020 Draft)

[kickthething]

Swans have notified the Bulldogs that we will place a bid on JUH with pick 3.
Noice!

If Adelaide or Norf dont, they are kidding themselves.

 

[Tedeski]

Hence this.

Rivals exchange picks, Dogs collect more draft points

Giants hand second and third-round selections to Dogs and also move up the board

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At least we had the decency to let them know.

 

[McRobie]

Swans have notified the Bulldogs that we will place a bid on JUH with pick 3.
Noice!

Lets hope there is a bid made on him at 1. fk the Dogs, they stole that flag off us!

 

[Tedeski]

So our first pick will be 4, then the earliest realistic bid that comes for Campbell is by Hawks with pick 5.

 

[tombomb]

You don't agree with Elijah himself, who pled guilty? Imo I don't even think that should be a prerequisite for us cutting him, but he's guilty full stop, and not sure why we should have considered keeping him.

Anyway, happy we now have the extra spot to plan for.

The video was posted before he was charged with anything or he pled guilty to anything.

Im saying he wasn't going to play again for our club as soon as she posted that video.

 

[Banyo Bloods]

You are free to do that. I'm free to point
out that one of the most respected coaches in the league probably has a reasonable grasp on he current state of the game.

Has done well but the Brisbane v Geelong final his team were two or three goals behind and he was demanding no switching and just going down the line. Needed to take risks to get back into the game but he coached them poorly that night.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

If Adelaide or Norf dont, they are kidding themselves.

Why? Adelaide have pick 1...do you want to bid on a player oh and then to take your second choice?

 

[mikey_san]

Sultana Bran ought to do it.

 

[mikey_san]

Some werid picks in this one after the top 5. A good listen though.


4. (Swans) Holland (We drafted his dad too apparently)

Campbell at 9 - bid from Dons
Gulden at 19 - bid from GWS

LISTEN: First-round mock draft based on club needs

Tune in to the latest Road to the Draft podcast

www.afl.com.au

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Some werid picks in this one after the top 5. A good listen though.


4. (Swans) Holland (We drafted his dad too apparently)

Campbell at 9 - bid from Dons
Gulden at 19 - bid from GWS

LISTEN: First-round mock draft based on club needs

Tune in to the latest Road to the Draft podcast

www.afl.com.au

Of all players the Giants need?

 

[DavyRed]

Of all players the Giants need?

There’s a constant debate on here about selecting based on ‘need’ versus ‘best available’. GWS might simply be going with what they consider ‘best available’.

 

[BruceFromBalnarring]

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Sultana Bran ought to do it.

Instant coffee and a dart works for me every time.

 

[The Gong]

We'll take them both. Make no mistake. We won't spilt them. Best of mates from that clip & waste of time going through the whole exercise of an academy if we aren't prepared to invest in players that will be unlikely to leave our club before their prime, as would be the case with a draftee next year who may come from Victoria. Take who we know now.

You're a lot more confident than Kinnear was.

 

[Vin Rogue]

I was referring to our inside mids, where our problem lies. Not the wing, where we have a host of quality options. Thought that would've been obvious by the fact I was arguing Blakey, Campbell etc won't be full-time mids as they won't be at our centre bounces full-time.

I'm not sure I share your emphasis on strict designated titles and roles, particularly in this era of flooding where basically everyone plays everywhere.

Sorry for my pedantic ways. I prefer the term on ballers to differentiate between centre line players and old school "followers." I take your point about our engine roomers ( the on ball getters )and the outside receivers. Stephens could well develop into a ball getter - seems to have poise with his decision making which makes him special. But like you, I see the best value in selecting Phillips if available. McInerney will be real special.

 

[RUNVS]

Some werid picks in this one after the top 5. A good listen though.


4. (Swans) Holland (We drafted his dad too apparently)

Campbell at 9 - bid from Dons
Gulden at 19 - bid from GWS

LISTEN: First-round mock draft based on club needs

Tune in to the latest Road to the Draft podcast

www.afl.com.au

Would be very disappointed if we get Hollands as it would give us an indication that the Swans coaches don't see our inside mids as an issue. Also Hollands is too big a risk with our first good draft pick in 20 years.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

There’s a constant debate on here about selecting based on ‘need’ versus ‘best available’. GWS might simply be going with what they consider ‘best available’.

That’s what caused them to have 100 KP players! They need defenders and or KPP players now badly or line breaking mids

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Would be very disappointed if we get Hollands as it would give us an indication that the Swans coaches don't see our inside mids as an issue. Also Hollands is too big a risk with our first good draft pick in 20 years.

Hollands could easily end up the best player in the draft! If he wasn’t off a knee would we even be having the debate?

 

[DavyRed]

That’s what caused them to have 100 KP players! They need defenders and or KPP players now badly or line breaking mids

Yep, totally understand. Just pointing out that some people believe that a club may legitimately draft based on ‘best available’ with no, or little, regard for specific needs at that point in time.

 

[anotherletdown]

Reef McInness will go before Gulden lock that in

So will Jones for PA. We'll have enough points

 

[anotherletdown]

He's an odd one. Collingwood have 14, 16, 65, 70.

If he was bid at say 17, which is after their two first picks, they wipe out the rest of this draft and severely compromise next year with carryover points.

But it would be a waste for Collingwood to just take him with one of their picks, as they would lose the 20% discount.

It's an awkward one for them.

Yep..... i'm crying a river.... hehehe

 

[caesar88]

Sorry for my pedantic ways. I prefer the term on ballers to differentiate between centre line players and old school "followers." I take your point about our engine roomers ( the on ball getters )and the outside receivers. Stephens could well develop into a ball getter - seems to have poise with his decision making which makes him special. But like you, I see the best value in selecting Phillips if available. McInerney will be real special.

McInerney I see as purely outside, and Stephens I think will be 50/50. I actually see him and Florent being very similar players in terms of what they can offer when at their best. Stephens can go inside and win his own footy like Florent, but also has a much easier time finding it when on the outside than Florent, who struggles to get involved when he's in that role. Once Stephens grows in confidence, which he started to as the year wore on, I think his running power on the outside will be pretty difficult for Horse to resist.

Either way I think it will be very interesting going forward, with so many players I think capable of playing an outside role between the arcs for us: Blakey, McInerney, Stephens, Campbell and maybe Dawson. Ironic that we find ourselves in the opposite situation to what we had between 2012 and 2016: we've got a surplus of quality outside mids, but a lack of quality inside mids.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

So will Jones for PA. We'll have enough points

Hawks have one too forget the name

 

[anotherletdown]

Hawks have one too forget the name

Downie. Walker from Freo probably gets picked before him but its semantics, they'll both be after Gulden

 

[Angry Red Bull]

You're a lot more confident than Kinnear was.

He’s hardly going to say they will be taken no matter. That would simply invite silly bids. I’m sure secretly he is confident

 

[Angry Red Bull]

Hollands could easily end up the best player in the draft! If he wasn’t off a knee would we even be having the debate?

His description of how he did it concerns me too. He was leading at ball and propped to reverse steps to mark. No physical contact. Not too sure of stats but that manner of acl is I would suggest more consistent with genetic weakness just like AJ.