Australia V England 2nd test of the 2017/18 Ashes @Adelaide Oval

[BlueandGoldforever]

You can’t really drop anyone after a 10 wicket win but I feel Adelaide is best played with an all rounder in the team. If we don’t get a fifth bowler for some of the tests then one of our quicks will break down at some stage as well. Idk who is best suited though. If Maxwell was a swing bowler it would be perfect. Maybe swap the Marsh brothers around and then swap back for the WACA?

I couldn't disagree more. This obsession with all-rounders is ridiculous. The bowlers from the first Test will have at least seven days off from this Test, eight days rest between the second and third Test and about the same before the fourth Test starts. I mean they are supposed to be professional athletes aren't they?

AFL players play week-in week-out smashing into each other and they don't miss every second game.

The general public have been hoodwinked into this theory that our fast bowlers can't bowl 40 or 50 overs in a Test without breaking down when it has been going on throughout Test cricket for more than 100 years.

Australia will win all five Tests playing six specialist batsmen and four frontline bowlers, which is a true and tried formula that has worked since the first ball in Test cricket was bowled.

 

[The_Reaper]

Can't see the bowling line-up changing after such a good performance, and the way Smith talked about the top six in the post-match makes it sound like none of them are for the high-jump.

My money would be on Maxwell or Marsh to be added to the squad, with a view to playing them if it looks like the pitch will be hard on the bowlers.

Mitch isn't bowling yet so pointless bringing him in as backup.

 

[The_Reaper]

If we win in Adelaide we're 2-0 up in a 5 test series. Why would we rest anyone?

 

[TassieEagle]

10 wicket win. No changes. No need for an all rounder when we can back the four guys we have got to get it done.if things are dire we can turn to Smith or Warner.

A true all rounder is not a bit and pieces player but a player who demands being picked in one area and is handy in another (ala Steve Waugh).

 

[Cupid Stunt]

Lol, people who think the fast bowlers will be rested are off their rocker... it’s the ashes, this is the pinnacle.

No one is rested unless they’re injured. Australia won’t make any changes... a 10 wicket win is too solid but the batting performance will need to improve. We can’t keep relying on smith as awesome as he is.

England I imagine will back woakes in, he’s a key contributor in each format for them and they will want to persist with him. Ball may go out for another quick (he was toothless). I don’t know enough about the English setup to know who would come in though.

Expecting a flat as a tack pitch... Adelaide is traditionally the best batting wicket in the country; the pink ball at night will be the only variable the batsmen will be weary off.

England may feel that this is their best chance and they may end up putting a lot of pressure on themselves to get a win before Perth. We should use this to our advantage.

Should be a great game! Ashes under lights!!


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[strewthcobber]

Australia will win all five Tests playing six specialist batsmen and four frontline bowlers, which is a true and tried formula that has worked since the first ball in Test cricket was bowled.

Australia's all rounder in the first test match, Billy Midwinter, batted number 6 and famously bowled 73 overs taking the first ever 5fer in test match history

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[010203]

5-0 on the way if Australia win this. I expect them to win this too. They have the advantage of having played more pink ball cricket than England to go with the confidence easily winning a test that was evenly poised for the first three days.

 

[Mitchell54]

You can’t really drop anyone after a 10 wicket win but I feel Adelaide is best played with an all rounder in the team. If we don’t get a fifth bowler for some of the tests then one of our quicks will break down at some stage as well. Idk who is best suited though. If Maxwell was a swing bowler it would be perfect. Maybe swap the Marsh brothers around and then swap back for the WACA?

Surely you don’t drop Shaun after he notches up a 50

 

[Carbine Chaos]

Mitch isn't bowling yet so pointless bringing him in as backup.

Mitch bowled today (out of necessity, and isn't ready, but still).

 

[Ciderhound]

This is where England will be hard to beat

Correct. Not a fan of this day night test caper and playing with a pink ball under lights definately brings the likes of Anderson and broad back into the game with the additional swing on offer. A deck like the GABBA stifled England's attack and worked for the Aussies once it quickened up. Other curators should take note.

 

[Outshined]

No changes is the safest bet. Everyone chipped in at some stage bar Handscomb and Khawaja and both have enough credit in the bank for now. Talk of resting our best bowler (Hazlewood) is bizarre. He's tailor made for this test.

Doubt it'll be a walk over either. Anderson and Broad are gutsy and will be a handful, especially in the twilight session. Wood probably won't get up (hah) so you'd assume Overton will come in and at least offer something slightly less pedestrian to Ball/Woakes.

 

[The Passenger]

Just looking at his performances on cricinfo and Woakes last 8 tests have yielded just 12 wickets at 53 runs a go. I knew his formline wasn't great but that's very poor. That would be another major concerns for the English. 6 of those tests are dating back to 2016 before he got dropped but in his two tests since coming back into the XI he hasn't enjoyed much success either.

 

[MC Bad Genius]

He only bowled 5 overs in the first innings, though. Over his 21 tests he's bowled on average 8.5 overs per innings. That + 40 with the bat = spot at 6. That + 20 with the bat = playing for WA.

Let's be real - if he averages 40 in Tests, he doesn't even need to bowl and he'd be our best option at 6. We're not exactly flush with choice for the last batting position.

 

[SilentHunter_]

Unchanged

 

[Donnie Darko]

the big man is coming!!

thanks to Cricket Australia for giving us a day/night match..
I think our bowlers will enjoy being under the floodlights..

if we cant win here in Adelaide , we might as well go home..

 

[Donnie Darko]

Doubt it'll be a walk over either. Anderson and Broad are gutsy and will be a handful, especially in the twilight session. Wood probably won't get up (hah) so you'd assume Overton will come in and at least offer something slightly less pedestrian to Ball/Woakes.

Curran !!
deadly under the lights..

if we dont pick him then we are wasting his skills.

 

[Donnie Darko]

Just looking at his performances on cricinfo and Woakes last 8 tests have yielded just 12 wickets at 53 runs a go. I knew his formline wasn't great but that's very poor. That would be another major concerns for the English. 6 of those tests are dating back to 2016 before he got dropped but in his two tests since coming back into the XI he hasn't enjoyed much success either.

Woakes depends too much on the duke ball and English conditions IMO
each time he goes overseas he fails to threaten.

 

[Restricted Free Agent]

That's AEDT not AEST.

Thanks I will fix that

 

[Stopher]

Overton apparently had the pink ball swinging around corners in the warm-up game against the CA XI. But then he also made a pair, batting at 8.

So effectively, he'd offer the same as Ball with the bat, but offer more with the ball.

Then again, Stokes allegedly boarding a plane will change everything again. Interesting times.

 

[Restricted Free Agent]

Unchanged

Let's hope so.

 

[Restricted Free Agent]

Lets see how the pink ball affect the bowling.

 

[HBF]

Have to go in unchanged. Can't imagine the selectors would want to make changes after beating the poms by 10 wickets.
Having said that, Maxwell may be in the conversation after his effort over the weekend.

 

[Scotland]

Lol, people who think the fast bowlers will be rested are off their rocker... it’s the ashes, this is the pinnacle.

I reckon we'll use more than 3 quicks this series, but we won't be resting anyone after one test with a mild bowling workload.

 

[pugsville]

Australia will win all five Tests playing six specialist batsmen and four frontline bowlers, which is a true and tried formula that has worked since the first ball in Test cricket was bowled.

Simply not true. Four bowlers you can be baldy exposed at times, one gets injured or bowls badly you become very vulnerable.
You got 4 quality bowlers it's a popular team balance. Good all rounders are often rare. But claims it has always worked and it's just a set and forget settings for team selection is the height of cricket stupidity.

 

[pugsville]

Bird and Sayers were included with an eye for Adelaide. The good performance in Brisbane makes less likely. But there's a chance Aus selectors will change one of the bellowers, I think its most likely they will go in unchanged. Personally I'd be tempted to go with 5 bowlers, but you rarely see that so I would it's pretty unlikely.