3rd Ashes Test England v Australia July 6-10 1930hrs @ Headingley

[frankrizzo]

Feels like we could be 3-0 up or 3-0 down so i have no idea whats coming next all i want is that we get one test in next two where england get clearly worst of conditions like we have had 3 times now if they fight through that and beat us so be it.

 

[BlueBayou]

"Has-been Memoirs from Cricketing never was-es" ...??

"The sweet smell of mediocrity" by Two Old Farts??

'I played a good shot in the nets once'...memoirs of barfly cricketers

 

[4Seasons]

If it was 2-2 in the last test and we were in trouble I'd get it but some people were doing rain dances here going into the 2nd day of the last test ffs

As I stated above it's going to have to be a ton of rain to get a draw, and looking that far ahead with weather forecasts is weird unless you're interested in how it affects the preparation of the pitch.

As for England's momentum, it was just one win, which they were well behind multiple times in the match. We just need one more great team performance and we have done it, and yes reclaiming the Ashes would be great, I want a series win this time.

With the rain, for a draw it’s also going to need to bucket down during the backend of the match. England will just adjust their tactics with any rain early in the game.

And whilst I don’t think there has been much of a momentum swing towards England, even if there has been, Australia could easily wrestle back momentum in a day, or even a couple of sessions.

 

[Soggy2112]

We want to reclaim the Ashes

A washout is the easiest way to achieve this

I fear England's momentum

We need to win this series. For the past 22 years the Ashes has been pretty much the home team wins (although over that period we have been far better in England than they have in Australia).

This group managed to buck that trend and retain the Ashes in 2019, they’re next hurdle is to win a series.

This is probably the last series that Warner, Khawaja, Smith, Starc, Hazlewood and Lyon play in England. That’s a group that is very hard to replace and I don’t see us going over in 2027 with a squad that is anywhere near as strong as this one.

To not win from a 2-1 lead would be a huge disappointment.

In my view the team will be:

Khawaja
Warner/Harris/Renshaw (most likely Warner)
Labuschagne
Smith
Head
Marsh/Green (most likely Marsh)
Carey
Starc
Cummins
Murphy
Hazlewood

Which is still a better 11 than what England will have. Win the toss and a bit of luck with the conditions and that team will get it done.

 

[spike101]

That's a really good and well-balanced post.

It's very easy to have a knee-jerk reaction after a bad result and catastrophise everything. The fact is, we'd won three in a row on this tour which included a strong Indian team and England on their own patch twice. Not since 2001 have we beaten England in consecutive games in England. We certainly should not be panicking and have not become a bad team overnight. In spite of a poor performance overall, which included losing the toss and batting in dreadful conditions on day 3, we were still very close to winning. Man for man, this Australia team is better than England. On English shores, they are closely matched, but in any other country (not least Australia), we are significantly better.

All that said, we can't be blind to the obvious - David Warner's plight against Stuart Broad is becoming a roadshow. It's a circus act. There's nothing in Warner's away stats which would indicate that he will come good either. He's hit 70 once on the road since 2017. That is truly lamentable and he's 37 in three months. In short, he's cooked. I propose Green doing a Watson and getting in at the top of the order. How much worse can he do? I feel he might like the harder ball and could pace his innings better at 1 than at 6. It gives us a right-hander at the top and doesn't mean we have to drop Marsh.

On a separate note, I live 30kms from Old Trafford and it's currently pissing down with rain!

In New Zealand I would pick England to win; why doesn’t Australia go to NZ; it might do now that there best fast bowlers have taken other options?

 

[spike101]

We need to win this series. For the past 22 years the Ashes has been pretty much the home team wins (although over that period we have been far better in England than they have in Australia).

This group managed to buck that trend and retain the Ashes in 2019, they’re next hurdle is to win a series.

This is probably the last series that Warner, Khawaja, Smith, Starc, Hazlewood and Lyon play in England. That’s a group that is very hard to replace and I don’t see us going over in 2027 with a squad that is anywhere near as strong as this one.

To not win from a 2-1 lead would be a huge disappointment.

In my view the team will be:

Khawaja
Warner/Harris/Renshaw (most likely Warner)
Labuschagne
Smith
Head
Marsh/Green (most likely Marsh)
Carey
Starc
Cummins
Murphy
Hazlewood

Which is still a better 11 than what England will have. Win the toss and a bit of luck with the conditions and that team will get it done.

2010/11 slipped your memory ?

 

[Cuzz09]

i will be furious if we don't retain the Ashes

but then like a few hrs later I'll go to work or whatever and forget about it

But it'll suck

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[western royboy]

The pitches have been pretty flat, if you had two sides playing traditional cricket no doubt we would have seen a draw or two by now so I reckon a bowling average of around 30 for the series is pretty decent

Take out rain - I don’t think modern day sides have the capacity to bat out draws for two days like they used to - increase the risk for runs you increase the wickets - technically there are few players set up to bat time

 

[western royboy]

This girl Jones is an excellent keeper- Johnny Bairstow has a couple snapping at his heels

 

[frankrizzo]

In New Zealand I would pick England to win; why doesn’t Australia go to NZ; it might do now that there best fast bowlers have taken other options?

we have way better record in nz than england even bazball england couldnt get series win over there.

 

[DeathlyAccurate]

i will be furious if we don't retain the Ashes

but then like a few hrs later I'll go to work or whatever and forget about it

But it'll suck

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We’ll retain them.


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[kozi]

This session decides the Ashes

 

[Manbearpig77]

Terrible review.

 

[troybe]

Shot Marnie

 

[Silver Tongue]

Try the 4th Test thread boys!

 

[Iamspock]

In

That's a really good and well-balanced post.

It's very easy to have a knee-jerk reaction after a bad result and catastrophise everything. The fact is, we'd won three in a row on this tour which included a strong Indian team and England on their own patch twice. Not since 2001 have we beaten England in consecutive games in England. We certainly should not be panicking and have not become a bad team overnight. In spite of a poor performance overall, which included losing the toss and batting in dreadful conditions on day 3, we were still very close to winning. Man for man, this Australia team is better than England. On English shores, they are closely matched, but in any other country (not least Australia), we are significantly better.

All that said, we can't be blind to the obvious - David Warner's plight against Stuart Broad is becoming a roadshow. It's a circus act. There's nothing in Warner's away stats which would indicate that he will come good either. He's hit 70 once on the road since 2017. That is truly lamentable and he's 37 in three months. In short, he's cooked. I propose Green doing a Watson and getting in at the top of the order. How much worse can he do? I feel he might like the harder ball and could pace his innings better at 1 than at 6. It gives us a right-hander at the top and doesn't mean we have to drop Marsh.

On a separate note, I live 30kms from Old Trafford and it's currently pissing down with rain!

Incidentley, do you live there voluntarily?

 

[Harrison Bergeron]

In

Incidentley, do you live there voluntarily?

No sane person lives in England voluntarily.