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Border Gavaskar Trophy, India v Australia, 1st Test 9-13 Feb, 1430hrs at Nagpur
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Prep was garbage .
Making a sub continent replica deck for practice , hiring a fella who sort of bowls like ashwin to trundle net overs and then dropping an inform bat .
Most guys practice was in the big bash .
Not exactly a recipe for success .
Making a sub continent replica deck for practice , hiring a fella who sort of bowls like ashwin to trundle net overs and then dropping an inform bat .
Most guys practice was in the big bash .
Not exactly a recipe for success .
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sounds touch and go right to the last minute. not exactly a great way to prepare
Our best players in the match all played BBL....
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People who have caned Maxwell's career because he averaged 26 across 7 tests. Those 7 tests were not exactly the best of batting conditions. Australia averaged 26 per wicket across those same seven tests. Take out Steve Smith's average of 53.6 across the same 7 tests and the batting lineup averaged 23.Stupid to cite his average without putting it in context.
Why are we discussing Maxwell at all?
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To blame the BBL is lazy analysis.
Most of our players are s**t in India, and it's a problem we've had for decades. And a week's camp in India wouldn't have changed a ******* thing.
prep for india is a long term thing surely? a practice match on some green top vs indians 4th stringers wont change anything, we rarely produce batsmen fit for these conditions and if we do how often is that due to our system or just more about that approach or training methods that particular player had growing up?
This is a 50 year issue not 5 not 10 50 years we have been failing in india, one thing we could do is start finding out how indians grow up playing spin, aussies love to sweep and reverse sweep for example yet indians dont do that anywhere near as much so maybe we could start teaching our guys to play spin the way the guys who actually know how to play it are taught.
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2017 that had a camp in Dubai followed by a warm up game and we won the first game and was fairly competitive the whole series, Lost 2-1, third Test drawn.
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How the Big Bash compromised Australia’s tour of India
The last time Australia toured India they prepared with a training camp in Dubai. This time the stars were playing in the Big Bash.
Marnus can’t have done much more in his career to date to instil faith that he’s a decent batsman but he also hasn’t REALLY been tested a lot either.
It goes without saying because Smith has been around a long time but there’s a very big difference between his 60 average and Marnus’ and that’s without factoring in the seemingly endless amount of luck he carries around.
Marnus has proven two things so far IMO: he’s very good mentally and he is very strong at seizing on bowlers’ mistakes. I think the jury is still out on whether he can regularly adapt to facing good bowlers who are getting some help.
How the Big Bash compromised Australia’s tour of India
The last time Australia toured India they prepared with a training camp in Dubai. This time the stars were playing in the Big Bash.www.brisbanetimes.com.au
Smith made 100 on a bunsen and it was the only test we won, o keefe averaged about 50 with ball in the three tests outside that pitch, if smith had pulled off big ton here we might have won as well but that really does seem like our plan a b c in england in india get a difficult pitch hope smith bats like bradman we sneak a win and it covers up the cracks.
So what you're saying is we still lost.
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Ahead of the previous India tour in 2017 Australia’s stars spent a fortnight at a specially arranged training camp in Dubai and then flew to India and played a tour game before upsetting India in the opening Test of the series at Pune.
Then why didn't we do the same this time??? Failing that why not a two week spin camp up at the Academy on their practice decks that replicate typical India ones as they actually used imported Indian soil. Similar hot weather to the sub continent in Brissie this time of the year as well. One guess as to the reason why, a good few of our Test X1 were still playing hit & giggle. How in this universe is T20 good prep for Test cricket, even more so in India.
Then why didn't we do the same this time??? Failing that why not a two week spin camp up at the Academy on their practice decks that replicate typical India ones as they actually used imported Indian soil. Similar hot weather to the sub continent in Brissie this time of the year as well. One guess as to the reason why, a good few of our Test X1 were still playing hit & giggle. How in this universe is T20 good prep for Test cricket, even more so in India.
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Lost competitively
We could have been 2-0 up, only set 188 in the 2nd Test but bowled out for 112
1st Test - Australia won by 333 runs
2nd Test - India won by 75 runs
3rd Test - Drawn
4th Test - India won by 8 wickets
Went down to the last Test, we'll lose this series 4-0.
So the lesson they learnt from that is less preparation needed. Surely won’t happen again when we go there next, regardless of what happens next 3 tests.
If smith had got out cheaply in first test in 17 we probably lose 4-0 then as well, hell if smith gets out cheaply first test of the 19 ashes we probably fall apart and lose series badly as well, you need very deep high quality batting to win in places like india, just two teams have won in india this century both with stacked batting lineups who play spin well who were in peak form we just dont have the batting depth for these conditions.
If he was fit, he'd at least open up some new options for us.
He can bat 7 and bowl spin, so we could play 3 quicks with him as the second spinner, or play with him as a third spinning option. Possibly even Green AND Maxwell if we wanted to stiffen the batting line-up while keeping 5 bowling options.
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Why would you have Head opening and Usman in the middle order? Head has been at his best at no. 5 over the past 2 seasons.
They'll screw Head up if they open with him.
Renshaw is an opening batsmen - if they drop Warner then FFS pick Renshaw as the opener. .
Reckon you’re right - CA wanted the big names playing BBL for as long as possible
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If Maxwell was available, I reckon Green, Maxwell, Head (and potentially one of the left arm orthodox spinners) for Renshaw, Handscomb, Warner (and an unlucky Boland) would have us looking stronger with more options in the 2nd Test.
With Maxwell out of the series, and Green probably still unfit for the 2nd Test it will probably be Starc for a still unlucky Boland! And that's it!! Smith, Labuschagne and Renshaw to bowl some spin.
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