Opinion Brian Cook - Carlton's rebuild still has a fair way to go
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It hasn't been the Carlton supporters bringing up his record at Brisbane.
My take.
He has only coached at Brisbane, so that is all we have to go on.
Teague coached last year.
So all we have is the 2 records of the 2 coaches, may or may not matter, but Teague at the moment has a better winning record than Voss.
I don't expect many Carlton fans to look at it that way, but it really doesn't inspire me like it does some.
I'd rather have Levi Casboult than Hipwood.
So if Voss wins more games than Teague, he is a better coach, if he doesn't, Teague is a better coach?
Love the, this coach is better than that coach. When will people realise it's about the list being ready to challenge
Clarko in 2013-15, then the last 3 years
Buckley 2018 to 2020-21
Longmire 2019-20 to 2021
Etc, etc
Clarko in 2013-15, then the last 3 years
Buckley 2018 to 2020-21
Longmire 2019-20 to 2021
Etc, etc
I don't think there are too many from Carlton who even think Voss could fail.No, of course it hasn't been.
I wonder why that is?
He is taking over from Teague, he needs to coach better with nearly the same list or they will not go anywhere.
That is my whole point, the 2 records don't tell me he is a better coach, so to me, the list needs to lift markedly for them to breakout, but watching them last year, they have way too many on the list who just don't inspire.
Coaches previous record isn't relevant, no clear precedent to suggest they are better before or after their first to last year of coaching, or from one club to another
Nothing is categorical
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You're pushing the 'better record' thing pretty hard. You'd think it was more than 2% difference the way you're going on about it.
Teague's best result is 8 wins. Voss has 13 and 10 win seasons.
Teague took over a young, rebuilt list that was expected to be on the improve and managed 21 wins across 3 seasons. Voss took over an ageing list that was on the decline and managed 42 wins in 5 seasons. Took them to finals in 2009 for the first time since 2004.
Go Teague!
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I'm concerned that Voss might be trolling Carlton.
I also think one thing we're forgetting was that Voss was unfortunate in that he was competing against 3 or 4 or the most dominant teams that took to the field since the turn of the century when he was in control at Brisbane - Geelong, St Kilda, Collingwood and to a lesser extent the Western Bulldogs.
Teague had nowhere near those quality of teams to play against whilst he was at Carlton.
Meteoric Rise would support me on this.
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You might be onto something
I honestly don't know why these experts on here bring up Brisbane, he's not going to be the same coach.
Grand Uncle Horace
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He over rated the Brions List. He will not make the same mistake this time. He is a good communicator. I expect around 10 or so players have been told they must deliver or be delisted or traded for Sanboys like SPS.
Trying to rate the vast majority of coaches against another, let alone themselves year to year or at another club is the most bizarre analysis I see/hear.
Off the top of my head i would say he's probably been in the Port Adelaide system longer than he was coaching Brisbane.
Grand Uncle Horace
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Probably right. Hopefully for the necessary list cleansing at the Blues, Voss uses Boak and Butters as benchmarks. Neither may be A graders talent wise but are A+ for absolute commitment.
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