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I'd be tempted to bring in Worrell this week, into our back line, then push Smith further up the ground.
I'd love to see Worrell come in, shame we haven't given him a bit of a run up forward in the SANFL as well as down back. He could have also been a good option for the Lynch replacement.
 
We lead the AFL this season in games played by sub-20 game players yet we are third in number of players used?
What does this mean?

1) We are playing KIDS and we are giving them a good sequence of games.
Berry, Butts, Hamill, McHenry, Rowe, Schoenberg, Scholl.

2) We have given an opportunity to players in their early twenties to step up (or move on).
Fogarty, Frampton, Keays, McAdam (25 but young in footy years), Murphy

3) We have given some other KIDS a taste.
Hinge (sadly out for the season), Murray

4) I have no doubt (unless injured) we will also see a heap more KIDS play AFL this season;
Hately, Himmelberg (only 22 despite being a whipping boy forover), Jones, McAsey Pedlar, Thilthorpe, Worrell.

It sure looks like a rebuild to me.
We were always going to be leading the number of players with sub 20 games.... given we have the least experienced squad.

Just one question - are you comfortable with the club playing injured players who are not able to fully contribute to their usual standards... ahead of another kid in rebuild mode?
 
So Frampton hasn’t scored a goal for a month....

there is no logical basis for continuing to select this guy.
Oh but he keeps his opponent out of Tex’s way.
What a load of shit.
Go an look at the first mark/hanger Tex took on the weekend and see where Frampton was.
 
No, we've got Burns introducing us to 'the collective' instead. It's all the same thing, continuity, the collective, non-statistical, it means the same thing.
I love how they attempt to reinvent the wheel instead of just doing what works, identifying and selecting players that are actually good at football.

Crows have a long history of outsmarting ourselves.
 

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I do not understand a selection policy that:
--- re-selects an underperforming player after 3 poor games (Frampton, vs Freo)
--- plays injured senior players (Lynch) ahead of a rookie, maybe Tex as well, we'll see
--- values continuity above team-strengthening (by contrast, Freo made 4 unforced changes to play us, and won away).
I'm confused and I wonder how the players feel about it too.

Can anybody here see the Grand Plan in what's happening? I'd love to get it.
 
Yeah something I have noticed, Walker getting crowded in recent weeks.
The easiest way of keeping Tex from being double teamed is replacing Frampton with someone the opposition actually need to cover...
 
We were always going to be leading the number of players with sub 20 games.... given we have the least experienced squad.

Exactly. We have given games to young kids and players in their twenties because we have no choice and have 4 experienced senior players out injured
 
The easiest way of keeping Tex from being double teamed is replacing Frampton with someone the opposition actually need to cover...
Thats so stupid and logical. Yet our coaching staff cannot see this.

Look at the triple towers of the Eagles, its impossible to cover when you have JK, Darling and the young kid in Allen who can tear you a new one on his own.
 
I do not understand a selection policy that:
--- re-selects an underperforming player after 3 poor games (Frampton, vs Freo)
--- plays injured senior players (Lynch) ahead of a rookie, maybe Tex as well, we'll see
--- values continuity above team-strengthening (by contrast, Freo made 4 unforced changes to play us, and won away).
I'm confused and I wonder how the players feel about it too.

Can anybody here see the Grand Plan in what's happening? I'd love to get it.
I think the grand plan is to get to a certain amount of wins while we have the softer part of our draw. I can partially understand this philosophy as they don't want a repeat of last year. We definitely shouldn't be playing injured senior players but they have a lack of faith in the unknown. I'm hoping once we get to around 5 wins they will play more youth and further develop the team for the future which is what this year should be about.
 
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We definitely shouldn't be playing injured senior players but they have a lack of faith in the unknown. I'm hoping once we get to around 5 wins they will play more youth ...
The absences of Sloane/ Talia/ Mrouch/ Milera (in that order) have certainly weakened the side; put back the first two and we probably beat Freo.
I was talking about Lynch mostly (toe) and McAdam (shoulder, allegedly, and he was our worst player vs Freo which is saying something with Frampton in the side), Tex as well since he looked hobbled after half-time. Are the selectors trying not to lose big by playing, say, a weakened Lynch? The lack of faith you mentioned --- how will they know if a rookie has the goods until he's tested in the furnace of AFL pressures and speed?
Look at Sholl, who is lightly built --- his positioning, run-all-day and delivery are elite and he will be a star when he develops fully and strengthens --- but who'd have known that until he played AFL? Some players lift their game and push themselves to rise to the challenge of AFL footy when promoted, so the question remains ie how will the Coaches know, until they're played?
Lynch's much-vaunted usefulness as 'a connector' is nullified if he's injured. I'd have gambled on a fit, keen rookie over an injured Lynch vs. Freo. In a rebuild year where finishing in the bottom six will not be a black mark on Nicks' resume, give the kids a go.
 
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Tex had #2 in front of him and #3 behind, with just enough room to run and jump, plant his boot to get the ride from #2 and take the speccy. Great mark-of-the-match, great timing, strong hands.
Just before that, maybe a quarter second, Frampton was running in from the R of that photo, flat-footed/unguarded, and had no effect whatsoever on the contest. Frampton then fell over Freo's #2. Must have been before he opened his eyes again :sneaky: .
 
Because Lynch's role is reliant upon his ability to gut run all day. Fogarty is barely fit enough to run out the first quarter in the midfield, there's no way he's fit enough to cover the kms that Lynch's role requires.

I think that’s defining “Lynch’s role” in a one dimensional way. I think the crows are very guilty of thinking of certain players for one role only and pigeonholing people. Why can’t we restructure our forward line to allow Fog to play as a higher half forward? If you go back and look at his junior highlights he was excellent at winning the ball and bustling through packs. We’ve given him no game time in sides that can hardly move the ball effectively, Tex’s resurgence is evidence enough of our ball movement this season v last and ‘19.
 

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I agree that he is not a like for like replacement, but I think it would be worth trying him in a version of that role to see how he goes. We would need to restructure the team anyway and guys like Ned and Murphy would also be required to push up the ground to assist with the 'connector' role.

Couldn’t agree more. We need to be more creative than “but who will play the connector”. Like guys, it’s not 2017 anymore.
 
Just one question - are you comfortable with the club playing injured players who are not able to fully contribute to their usual standards... ahead of another kid in rebuild mode?
As I stated before Round One, there is absolutely no reason to select injured players in a rebuilding year.

So who were injured on Sunday and what did they contribute?
Walker, Lynch, Smith, Kelly and McAdam were all less than 100% fit (across the AFL, how many players don’t have some kind of niggle each week?).

Statistically Kelly, Smith and Tex were having above average seasons (statistically as good as any time in their career). Lynch has been down about 10% from his best and McAdam is getting less ball but kicking more goals this year (based on a Vader sample).

On Sunday, statistically Tex, Smith and Kelly were above their longterm averages, Lynch was down a touch and McAdam had a shocker. If I were to select any other 5 players from Sunday you would see a similar pattern.

If we had omitted all five players it is likely that we would not have been close to Freo. With the benefit of hindsight, I would have selected Kelly and Smith, subbed Tex off at half-time, left out McAdam and possibly Lynch.

This week I would leave out anyone who can’t train at full tilt in our main training session.
 
I think that’s defining “Lynch’s role” in a one dimensional way. I think the crows are very guilty of thinking of certain players for one role only and pigeonholing people. Why can’t we restructure our forward line to allow Fog to play as a higher half forward? If you go back and look at his junior highlights he was excellent at winning the ball and bustling through packs. We’ve given him no game time in sides that can hardly move the ball effectively, Tex’s resurgence is evidence enough of our ball movement this season v last and ‘19.
All footy clubs are guilty of creating specific roles for players

The game for many years has become too structured and over coached, when was the last time a coach moved a player magnet during a game? This is not just isolated to the crows

Players now get identified for a zone and role, they train their role within their group all preseason and this is their group and role for the season.

At times we read on bigfooty to move a player from forward to back etc, however the truth is this rarely happens unless a team runs out if troops for a certain position.

Coaching groups like to be build trust and belief in what they are building and their fear is that any significant changes during the season to their structures, player roles and gameplan will create doubt and erode trust, and belief in the coaching group

Again this is not just the crows, it's industry wide



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I do not understand a selection policy that:
--- re-selects an underperforming player after 3 poor games (Frampton, vs Freo)
--- plays injured senior players (Lynch) ahead of a rookie, maybe Tex as well, we'll see
--- values continuity above team-strengthening (by contrast, Freo made 4 unforced changes to play us, and won away).
I'm confused and I wonder how the players feel about it too.

Can anybody here see the Grand Plan in what's happening? I'd love to get it.
Quite easy actually ...

This board wants ....no demands that kids be given blocks of games ....so this is what the club has done with Frampton, played him without him thinking one bad game and he's out .....confidence then can lead to improved performance
PLUS the club was sending a big message to Berg

Lynch has performed well, his role is different this year ....his leadership well noted, and in the absence of Sloane, that on-field leadership with so many kids is needed

As always ....club has started better than most here expected ....and still complaining
 

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