Preview Changes: Round 11 vs GWS

[BACCS]

You'll watch.

Those posts are always hilarious, as if they won’t watch

 

[Squiba]

Geez Gallucci beyond stiff. Not sure what a sub 10 game small forward can do in that game.

O'Brien stiff as a board as well. Sauce embarrassed himself again after the port game; beat up on the dogs with no ruck. Nah he stays in ffs.

GWS would be perfect for blooding O'Brien with no pure ruckman in the side.

 

[John Who]

North Melbourne at Hobart and then Melbourne at home last year ... Not only with Pyke coaching but back to back games . No changes made .
Look at all of our big losses over his tenure and they are almost all on big grounds and against very strong power running teams .
We are yet to find a counter for this . Melbourne twice , North Melb , Collingwood ( draw ) was the same before we fought back , Grand Final .
All of those games we had patches where we were destroyed without laying a finger on the opposition .

The losses to North and Melbourne last year proved more anomalies rather than a true reflection of where we were heading towards the end of the minor round. This year, despite the losses, we've shown that we can turn things around and with a whole host of missing top-ten players. It can be argued that talking injuries are an excuse, but it is simply unfair to do comparisons now and last year due to the lack of key personnel right now.

I just hope the leaders when they come back, they will be fit and hungry as ever to do their best to improve and gel the team. All is not lost if we can bounce back and string a couple of wins.

 

[GreyCrow]

Lucky that anomaly didnt show up in the GF

 

[ShadeyP]

Geez Gallucci beyond stiff. Not sure what a sub 10 game small forward can do in that game.

O'Brien stiff as a board as well. Sauce embarrassed himself again after the port game; beat up on the dogs with no ruck. Nah he stays in ffs.

GWS would be perfect for blooding O'Brien with no pure ruckman in the side.

Sauce is tapped , the bottle is dry and IMO the most overrated ruck in the comp .
Thing is he will still be playing in 2020 possibly 2021 .
It is the AFC way , then ruck coach until 2050

 

[ShadeyP]

The losses to North and Melbourne last year proved more anomalies rather than a true reflection of where we were heading towards the end of the minor round. This year, despite the losses, we've shown that we can turn things around and with a whole host of missing top-ten players. It can be argued that talking injuries are an excuse, but it is simply unfair to do comparisons now and last year due to the lack of key personnel right now.

I just hope the leaders when they come back, they will be fit and hungry as ever to do their best to improve and gel the team. All is not lost if we can bounce back and string a couple of wins.

Not really anomalies in context , as we faltered to the very average pies at the MCG on the run home and then did not learn and went in top heavy in the GF and got spiddily spanked .
The thing that masked it was our big wins at home and then against very average competition .
We had a very favorable draw last year and some great wins at home .
We are miles away from anything this year yet repeating the same mistakes .

 

[John Who]

Not really anomalies in context , as we faltered to the very average pies at the MCG on the run home and then did not learn and went in top heavy in the GF and got spiddily spanked .
The thing that masked it was our big wins at home and then against very average competition .
We had a very favorable draw last year and some great wins at home .
We are miles away from anything this year yet repeating the same mistakes .

The only mistake right now that I can see is not giving Sauce a rest and trying ROB for a few games instead. All the other players picked right now are due to a cluster of injured/underdone players not able to push for selection! The coaches selections are heavily restricted in choosing players on a weekly basis (currently), as well as tinkering too much in-game because we have too many underdone players and too many kids unfamiliar with the speed of AFL games.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Lucky that anomaly didnt show up in the GF

Our grand final blues are an event not a trend

 

[ShadeyP]

The only mistake right now that I can see is not giving Sauce a rest and trying ROB for a few games instead. All the other players picked right now are due to a cluster of injured/underdone players not able to push for selection! The coaches selections are heavily restricted in choosing players on a weekly basis (currently), as well as tinkering too much in-game because we have too many underdone players and too many kids unfamiliar with the speed of AFL games.

Why do you think we have so many injuries this year ... answer is we have run our team into the dirt the last 2-3 years by not using our list depth .
It is a cumulative effect and a complete blight on list and team management over the last 2 seasons especially .

 

[AndysOtters]

Why do you think we have so many injuries this year ... answer is we have run our team into the dirt the last 2-3 years by not using our list depth .
It is a cumulative effect and a complete blight on list and team management over the last 2 seasons especially .

That’s a wildly simplified assertion.
Not sure cumulative games to players necessarily leads to a complete physical breakdown.

Change of program, dubious fitness staff, mismagment of injuries, shorter preaseason, luck, etc.

A whole lot of factors going on here. Think the coaches have every right to play the 22 they think will give the greatest percentage of winning, and I think they’ve mostly done that beside the obvious McKay and co bromancing

 

[CrowBloke]

Edit: not to teach lessons, but Sauce looks cooked. If it turns out that he is cooked and he costs us several games for these selectors to figure this out then that is incompetence. Surprised ROB didn’t give Sauce a rest. Will be pissed if he has another poor game.

This.
I reckon 6 out of my last 10 posts commented on Sauce, his decline, his taps to oppo mids, his lack of field marking and general field play, plus he's kicked zero goals in 10 games.
Sauce has been a terrific team man and is a very likeable bloke, very loyal, humble, good-hearted, no question.
Sauce looks cooked and I was hoping he'd be rested or managed or even dropped --- whatever the right word is --- to give ROB a go, and maybe come back re-energised after the bye. Maybe, unless ROB lifted and really grabbed his chance.
If Pyke keeps doing the same things selection-wise, he'll get the same (inconsistent) results.
Whatever Pyke tolerates, he'll get more of.

 

[CrowBloke]

with Keath being the pacy, marking swingman

Keath?
Pacy? Swingman?
KEATH, who's almost as slow as Otten and takes more time to move the ball on than Pyke takes to drop someone?
Nah mate.

 

[SugarShane]

Dropping Gallucci? Get f**ked. Jacobs,Lynch and Mackay should be gone before him.

Way to send a message after an embarrassment last week.

Message is pretty clear you'd think. Welcome to National Lampoon's Adelaide Crows selection night.

"Alright you senior blokes, you'd better bloody perform this week or Murphy gets dropped!"

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Glad to see someone else on here rate Hayward ... let's get him home .
Witherden showing plenty as well but you would have to wonder what they would be like with 2 years in the stifling system of the AFC two's

Like tom Doedee - really struggling to step up post sanfl

If you're going to say something at least back it up with some argument

Galluci and Poholke are struggling because they are not ready

And being honest Fog is the same but he's got more talent on his little finger than both of those so it's worth it

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Imagine poor Gallucci going into his match review.

Coaches: "Mate you had seven touches, 1 goal, 4 tackles and 4 inside 50s. That's not enough. You're not contributing. You're omitted this week"

Gooch: "But the ball was down the other end of the ground, Betts also had 7 touches and Fogarty just 9!"

Coaches: "Betts kicked 2 goals"

Gooch: "I had 2 shots on goal!"

Coaches: "Yeah but you missed one. That's why you're omitted."

Gooch: "The miss was why we lost by 91 points?"

Coaches: "There are many things you have to work on"

Gooch: "What about Mackay? Or Lynch? Jacobs was towelled up by Gawn. Are they getting dropped too?"

Coaches: "Nah mate. They have experience. And they know running patterns. And they train the bloody house down."

Gooch: "So the blokes who's job it was to lead the team and win the game in the middle are not dropped, while I played as a forward where the ball wasn't and get dropped?"

Coaches: "Yeah mate, that's right."

This is embarrasing , when Gooch has played 70 games and is 24 and finally getting 15 possessions and contributing you will be calling for him to be arsed

 

[CrowBloke]

Mackay had an acute case of shitmyselfitis

That hopeless, comical fumble was posted above, from youtube.
It's bloody funny, until I remember it's Mackay, under no pressure, with that Dees player more than 5 metres away when Mackay falls over his own feet.
Imo, Mackay had an acute case of behimselfitis.
He gets to do it all over again, on Sunday, ffs.

 

[CrowBloke]

I just hope the leaders when they come back, they will be fit and hungry as ever to do their best to improve and gel the team. All is not lost if we can bounce back and string a couple of wins.

JW, you get points for optimism .
Your glass seems to be at least nearly full, even when it's nearly empty.
(They shoulda dropped Mackay and 'rested' Sauce --- it would have been smart).

 

[I Lost My Keays]

This is embarrasing , when Gooch has played 70 games and is 24 and finally getting 15 possessions and contributing you will be calling for him to be arsed

Gallucci should never of been dropped ahead of Mackay, Lynch or Jacobs. Those three were so pathetic in the loss and didn't show anything, but the match committee penalised the team by dropping youngsters instead of the experienced. What message does that send?

 

[Jack is Back]

It’s interesting that a number of the TTBs (tools, trolls and bedwetters) admitted that they never watched the Melbourne match or turned it off early. Also very few of them follow the Twos (anyone that says bring in Cheney/Himmelberg/Dear/Jarman/Edwards/Signorello or Davis has zero credibility).

I have defended Gallucci when a number of his “new fans” were calling him a bust. He will eventually be a very good hybrid mid but CEY and Seedsman moved ahead of him due to his pre-season injury. He has had 33 touches, 2 goals and 16 tackles in the last 4 matches. His last two matches have been poor and he needs a rest.

IMHO Poholke will develop into a more than handy inside mid. He isn’t a great small forward and I expect the sMurph to have more impact.

Sauce has been all over the place this year. He was smacked by Grundy and Gawn, poor in the first half against the Bulldogs but played well in the second half. The combination of injury and lack of sleep means it is hard to predict what he has to offer. It would not surprise me if ROB is a late swap although my preference would be to play ROB against Freo and the Hawks and give Sauce a 3 week break.

And then there is David ****ing Mackay. IMHO he was poor against Poort Pear, good against the Bulldogs and far from our worst against Melbourne. Despite a valiant attempt to steal blooper of the year from Tom Doedee, IMHO BNM has performed better than Gallucci and Poholke over the last four weeks. If we can get back Sloane and Knight, he will join Andy Otten in the Twos.

Overall, I think it is the best team we can select this week but win, lose or draw, we can expect quite a few changes in the next few weeks.

 

[kulak]

I get that we want the satisfaction that someone is being Punished for the Crime of getting smashed by Jake Lever’s mob by 90 points.

Anecdotally, I reckon that after a big loss:

Hot headed rubbish coaches like Sando like to make a statement by dumping a stack of whipping boys.

Manipulative calculated coaches like Clarko’s will tear strips of their players at the post match - and then back them in to respond.

In 2017, after Hawthorn’s insipid round 6 loss at home in Tasmania to the Saints, Clarko said there would be “catastrophic change”.

He made two changes, with Cyril Rioli and Grant Birchall returning from injury to replace omitted youngsters Will Langford and Kaiden Brand. They lost to Melbourne by 3 points.

Over the course of the year he reshaped the team, and that is what I would expect Pyke to do.

Basically I am not convinced that coaches who like to “make a statement” by shuffling fringe players are on average any better at teaching resilience.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

It’s interesting that a number of the TTBs (tools, trolls and bedwetters) admitted that they never watched the Melbourne match or turned it off early. Also very few of them follow the Twos (anyone that says bring in Cheney/Himmelberg/Dear/Jarman/Edwards/Signorello or Davis has zero credibility).

I have defended Gallucci when a number of his “new fans” were calling him a bust. He will eventually be a very good hybrid mid but CEY and Seedsman moved ahead of him due to his pre-season injury. He has had 33 touches, 2 goals and 16 tackles in the last 4 matches. His last two matches have been poor and he needs a rest.

IMHO Poholke will develop into a more than handy inside mid. He isn’t a great small forward and I expect the sMurph to have more impact.

Sauce has been all over the place this year. He was smacked by Grundy and Gawn, poor in the first half against the Bulldogs but played well in the second half. The combination of injury and lack of sleep means it is hard to predict what he has to offer. It would not surprise me if ROB is a late swap although my preference would be to play ROB against Freo and the Hawks and give Sauce a 3 week break.

And then there is David ****ing Mackay. IMHO he was poor against Poort Pear, good against the Bulldogs and far from our worst against Melbourne. Despite a valiant attempt to steal blooper of the year from Tom Doedee, IMHO BNM has performed better than Gallucci and Poholke over the last four weeks. If we can get back Sloane and Knight, he will join Andy Otten in the Twos.

Overall, I think it is the best team we can select this week but win, lose or draw, we can expect quite a few changes in the next few weeks.

Agree with 98% of it other than faith in Galluci becoming a very good hybrid mid

But I could be wrong so it's still a good point , the rest is spot on especially the sanfl bit

 

[Scorpus]

Over the course of the year he reshaped the team, and that is what I would expect Pyke to do.

Unfortunately Pyke showed no inclination of doing this last year.

From Round 1 to the catastrophic Round 8 Melbourne loss we added Brad Crouch and Taylor Walker. We lost McGovern and Knight, both to injury.

Then from that Round 8 game to the GF we swapped Hampton for Greenwood, Menzel for Knight, Milera for Lever, and Smith for Seedsman. Hampton and Smith both got injured when they were replaced. Knight and Lever were both first 22 and returning to the side.

Pyke is extremely averse to unforced changes during the season. I can't see him doing any reshaping during the year.

 

[kulak]

Unfortunately Pyke showed no inclination of doing this last year.

From Round 1 to the catastrophic Round 8 Melbourne loss we added Brad Crouch and Taylor Walker. We lost McGovern and Knight, both to injury.

Then from that Round 8 game to the GF we swapped Hampton for Greenwood, Menzel for Knight, Milera for Lever, and Smith for Seedsman. Hampton and Smith both got injured when they were replaced. Knight and Lever were both first 22 and returning to the side.

Pyke is extremely averse to unforced changes during the season. I can't see him doing any reshaping during the year.

Maybe you are right. I will be sad if we are still backing in the same senior players in the same roles after 4 consecutive losses.

Hopefully we don’t have to find out this year what Pyke would do in that situation.

However in this situation right now, which is being 6-4 despite big injury problems, and a crunch match with GWS coming up, I am happy to take the death stare followed by the cautious selection changes.

 

[Scorpus]

Basically I am not convinced that coaches who like to “make a statement” by shuffling fringe players are on average any better at teaching resilience.

I don't think shuffling fringe players does anything either. If you're going to "make a statement" it needs to be an actual statement.

 

[Golumless]

Absolute rubbish

Murphy Fog both first years getting games

Poholke will be a delist

It's not a development comp this is men's football

There must always be prioritization of youth at any level to be successful, and a filtering out of the shitter older players. Especially in marginal positions that can be used for pure development (i.e. 2nd small forward, half forward/mid position, third tall etc).

Those selections are a complete failure, and a true step back for this club. A failure in the sense we had the ability to stamp one or two cards that needed to be stamped (Mackay was begging to have his career ended with that **** up in the 4th), and yet we did nothing. Just prayed that the same failures would magically turn it around.