His lack of effort annoys me.
At the center square and throw ins he barely competes. So many half hearted tackles as well.
Watch him next game, and see what he actually does
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At the center square and throw ins he barely competes. So many half hearted tackles as well.
Watch him next game, and see what he actually does
Centre square definitely needs a contest, but not a lot more. Sides have made do without dominating bounce downs and even with losing clearances. But no team would recruit Lobb to be the #1 ruck.
Agree. Treacy is fit enough. Don’t understand what a stint at Peel can do. He kicks goals for Peel, then we ll all lament that he should be playing AFL. Double edged sword
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What I am saying is I want to see 100% commitment to win, and I don't see it.
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In the end it all gets back to drafting and trading. When asked what was our priority for the trade and draft last year, JLo identified a forward ruck. Nek minnit, nada.
Lobb is cruising because he doesn't feel any heat on him for his position. Meek has his limitations but Lobb can't keep on being uncompetitive in the ruck any more, Meek had 30 and 2 against Souths and showed he can compete at AFL level. Each game Lobb underperforms in the firsts and Meek does well in the WAFL is in Meek's favour
Lobb is cruising because he doesn't feel any heat on him for his position. Meek has his limitations but Lobb can't keep on being uncompetitive in the ruck any more, Meek had 30 and 2 against Souths and showed he can compete at AFL level. Each game Lobb underperforms in the firsts and Meek does well in the WAFL is in Meek's favour
Because they won't touch the ball. OK, maybe, maybe not. But if they have bad games - and you'd have to say it's likely - then that's 2 passengers that we need to make up for.
The only thing that Treacy seems to bring to the table is aggression at the ball. Now that's pretty important against West Coast - having McGovern and Barrass feeling like they're about to get a knee sent through their ribcage won't be a bad thing at all. But I think he needs to bring more than that to be worth a spot.
I get it, I just don’t think Lobb is in the team to win ruck contests for the 10 minutes he is in there, and don’t think that is the best way to use a forward/ruck. If that was our focus Meek may well be a better option. The real purpose is to give Darcy a spell but to have a player who adds to our forward structure for the remainder of the game.
I would be interested to see how the team performs when Lobb is in the ruck compared to the opposition, because there needs to be a larger strategy adjustment when that happens (as apuchar suggests).
i also don’t trust observations of what a player looks like (along with nodgey and the eye test). Cox always looks pretty laconic and Mundy looks weak and slow (according to Memories). A better measure of what a player is doing is the coach, and it looks to me like Lobb is doing pretty much what is being asked of him, and is a critical part of our 22. And that’s supported by the stats.
Ignoring the ruck his leads and his tackles are the same.
Plus he is not getting on the scoreboard.
Give Longmuir a good alternative and I think Lobb would be dropped
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Too right
Again, 18 possessions (19 is his career high) and 8 score involvements tells me he is easily performing at an acceptable level. The other thing is that we have had a dysfunctional forward line, and Lobb back has been critical in turning that around.
It used to be Tabs doesn't get the ball kicked to him because they'd always kick it to Pav.
Now it is Treacy doesn't get the ball kicked to him because they always kick it to Tabs.
It probably doesn't matter whether you believe these statements or not or somewhere in between... The Freo coaches backed in Tabs even when he wasn't producing much. He went back to WAFL at times to work on things, and so will Treacy. It might be next week, it might be in a few weeks. We need to pump games into both Treacy and Sturt imo - but within reason. I don't mind whether they are in or out, so long as they aren't switching between the two levels on a weekly basis.
Now it is Treacy doesn't get the ball kicked to him because they always kick it to Tabs.
It probably doesn't matter whether you believe these statements or not or somewhere in between... The Freo coaches backed in Tabs even when he wasn't producing much. He went back to WAFL at times to work on things, and so will Treacy. It might be next week, it might be in a few weeks. We need to pump games into both Treacy and Sturt imo - but within reason. I don't mind whether they are in or out, so long as they aren't switching between the two levels on a weekly basis.
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I want Treacy to play because I want him to run straight through McGovern who will probably make a miraculous recovery like he always does
Apart from his shots on goal I thought Lobb was ok.
Fyfe had an all time game if he’d kicked a couple of those goals. He was a wrecking ball
Fyfe had an all time game if he’d kicked a couple of those goals. He was a wrecking ball
Midfield really need to up the ante against their undermanned midfield. Hard tag on Kelly and should dominate. Fyfe could be in for a day out
Id go Logue to Kennedy. Hughes to Darling and Cox to Allen. That way Cox can go for his marks more and intercept. If Cox doesn't get up then Chapman goes to Allen.
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Lobb just made it back into the team last week. He's not in the gun to get dropped.
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He hasn't played for Peel, if that's what you mean.
The only miracle you would be getting is the miracle of Jonah*
*(ie. we won't see Treacy till Round 12 because he will be suspended for three day games and three night games that follow)).
