Game Day Pre-Season - West Coast vs Adelaide (Fri)

[Jeffcrowe]

Did Barnett play in the 2nd game with the reserves? Anyone see how he went?

Also didn't really notice Doedee much, not sure if that's good as he was blanketing his player or if he playing too far off them to have an impact.


McAdam was excellent he's very good at delivery the ball inside 50 needs some credit as over the preseason it seemed he missed a bit of it but looks in great condition

i thought doedee's pre season games have been v solid, no issues there

 

[CrowBloke]

P.S.
Thanks to @VardyMagic for the "Dance moves" compilation.

Super-slick stuff by Rachele, Soligo, Pedlar et al.
I haven't seen that kind of sharpness since McLeod/Edwards/Porplyzia and, of course, Eddie..

What's happened to those blokes? Burgess? Mindset? Change-up of game plan/positioning?
The mob that beat WC on Friday night would belt the 2022 Crows.

 

[Bearded Clam]

P.S.
Thanks to @VardyMagic for the "Dance moves" compilation.

Super-slick stuff by Rachele, Soligo, Pedlar et al.
I haven't seen that kind of sharpness since McLeod/Edwards/Porplyzia and, of course, Eddie..

What's happened to those blokes? Burgess? Mindset? Change-up of game plan/positioning?
The mob that beat WC on Friday night would belt the 2022 Crows.

I think it’s more that they’ve been given a real opportunity..

not just dumped at half forward/forward pocket and not really bought into the game.

Soligo, Rachele and Pedlar all spent time on the ball and attended centre bounces and were able to show what they can bring when they are given free reign to get in amongst it around the ground.

just watched the replay.. Rachele was awesome. Some of his play making between the arcs was immense.

let the kid loose..

 

[Jeffcrowe]

We need to get Rachelle around the ball as much as his fitness will allow.

Come 2024 reckon he will be 75% mid, 25% forward.

Imagine when he’s got a full tank ?!!!

Could end up one of the best mids from that draft

 

[rabidcrow]

I think it’s more that they’ve been given a real opportunity..

not just dumped at half forward/forward pocket and not really bought into the game.

Soligo, Rachele and Pedlar all spent time on the ball and attended centre bounces and we’re able to show what they can bring when they are given free rein to get in amongst it around the ground.

just watched the replay.. Rachele was awesome. Some of his play making between the arcs was immense.

let the kid loose..

Opportunity and time. An extra preseason is worth a bucket load early in a players career


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[FR0GGY]

All of those were pure glory.

Pedlars was the best.

the shrugs/fends off followed by that one handed drop onto his left that pinpointed his team mate.

Wow. Pure class.

There’s no substitute for talent.

 

[cleanhands]

There’s no substitute for talent.

Unfortunately I didn’t see the game, but I would assume he’s starting to built confidence and belief in his body

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Unfortunately I didn’t see the game, but I would assume he’s starting to built confidence and belief in his body

Was definitely his best game of the pre season

He’s also got panels of improvement which is exciting

 

[Mutineer]

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West Coast Eagles v Adelaide​

WEST COAST

Player	Time On Ground %	Ranking Points	Disposals	Kick ins	Centre Bounce Attendances
J.McGovern	87	144	25	2	0
R.Ginbey	56	99	17	0	12
S.Hurn	79	97	25	5	0
T.Barrass	89	88	15	0	0
L.Duggan	82	86	25	0	0
C.Jamieson	79	82	15	0	0
L.Shuey	54	81	20	0	7
J.Hunt	89	79	16	0	0
E.Yeo	67	78	20	0	12
T.Kelly	79	73	16	0	19
D.Sheed	75	73	21	0	17
T.Cole	88	68	16	0	0
L.Ryan	84	60	10	0	0
J.Waterman	82	60	11	0	0
O.Allen	88	52	8	0	0
J.Petruccelle	61	51	9	0	0
J.Jones	80	50	12	0	0
X.O'Neill	80	47	14	0	11
J.Cripps	84	43	11	0	0
A.Gaff	87	37	14	0	0
J.Rotham	68	36	5	0	0
C.Chesser	61	34	9	0	3
G.Clark	37	23	7	0	0
A.Witherden	35	16	8	2	0
E.Hewett	31	2	2	0	3

ADELAIDE

Player	Time On Ground %	Ranking Points	Disposals	Kick ins	Centre Bounce Attendances
R.Laird	73	151	32	0	20
D.Fogarty	84	136	18	0	0
M.Hinge	84	113	23	0	0
J.Dawson	88	105	26	5	0
R.O'Brien	80	103	17	0	0
B.Keays	81	95	18	0	6
T.Walker	85	88	15	0	0
S.Berry	69	86	19	0	17
B.Smith	81	83	22	2	0
J.Soligo	68	76	15	0	8
I.Rankine	92	71	13	0	3
H.Schoenberg	78	71	18	0	9
R.Sloane	82	69	18	0	1
J.Rachele	80	67	11	0	9
N.Murray	85	62	14	0	0
J.Butts	87	58	10	0	0
L.Pedlar	55	56	10	0	0
E.Himmelberg	82	47	14	0	0
P.Parnell	85	47	11	0	0
T.Doedee	88	41	11	2	0
S.McAdam	77	39	8	0	0
M.Michalanney	79	38	7	0	0
M.Crouch	15	23	9	0	5
T.Brown	21	16	8	0	6

 

[Trigger13]

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West Coast Eagles v Adelaide​

WEST COAST

Player	Time On Ground %	Ranking Points	Disposals	Kick ins	Centre Bounce Attendances
J.McGovern	87	144	25	2	0
R.Ginbey	56	99	17	0	12
S.Hurn	79	97	25	5	0
T.Barrass	89	88	15	0	0
L.Duggan	82	86	25	0	0
C.Jamieson	79	82	15	0	0
L.Shuey	54	81	20	0	7
J.Hunt	89	79	16	0	0
E.Yeo	67	78	20	0	12
T.Kelly	79	73	16	0	19
D.Sheed	75	73	21	0	17
T.Cole	88	68	16	0	0
L.Ryan	84	60	10	0	0
J.Waterman	82	60	11	0	0
O.Allen	88	52	8	0	0
J.Petruccelle	61	51	9	0	0
J.Jones	80	50	12	0	0
X.O'Neill	80	47	14	0	11
J.Cripps	84	43	11	0	0
A.Gaff	87	37	14	0	0
J.Rotham	68	36	5	0	0
C.Chesser	61	34	9	0	3
G.Clark	37	23	7	0	0
A.Witherden	35	16	8	2	0
E.Hewett	31	2	2	0	3

ADELAIDE

Player	Time On Ground %	Ranking Points	Disposals	Kick ins	Centre Bounce Attendances
R.Laird	73	151	32	0	20
D.Fogarty	84	136	18	0	0
M.Hinge	84	113	23	0	0
J.Dawson	88	105	26	5	0
R.O'Brien	80	103	17	0	0
B.Keays	81	95	18	0	6
T.Walker	85	88	15	0	0
S.Berry	69	86	19	0	17
B.Smith	81	83	22	2	0
J.Soligo	68	76	15	0	8
I.Rankine	92	71	13	0	3
H.Schoenberg	78	71	18	0	9
R.Sloane	82	69	18	0	1
J.Rachele	80	67	11	0	9
N.Murray	85	62	14	0	0
J.Butts	87	58	10	0	0
L.Pedlar	55	56	10	0	0
E.Himmelberg	82	47	14	0	0
P.Parnell	85	47	11	0	0
T.Doedee	88	41	11	2	0
S.McAdam	77	39	8	0	0
M.Michalanney	79	38	7	0	0
M.Crouch	15	23	9	0	5
T.Brown	21	16	8	0	6

What instantly jumps out of the page is TOG for Berry and Soligo in relation to their relative output. The midfield is suddenly in good hands, it feels.

 

[George Kramer]

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West Coast Eagles v Adelaide​

WEST COAST

Player	Time On Ground %	Ranking Points	Disposals	Kick ins	Centre Bounce Attendances
J.McGovern	87	144	25	2	0
R.Ginbey	56	99	17	0	12
S.Hurn	79	97	25	5	0
T.Barrass	89	88	15	0	0
L.Duggan	82	86	25	0	0
C.Jamieson	79	82	15	0	0
L.Shuey	54	81	20	0	7
J.Hunt	89	79	16	0	0
E.Yeo	67	78	20	0	12
T.Kelly	79	73	16	0	19
D.Sheed	75	73	21	0	17
T.Cole	88	68	16	0	0
L.Ryan	84	60	10	0	0
J.Waterman	82	60	11	0	0
O.Allen	88	52	8	0	0
J.Petruccelle	61	51	9	0	0
J.Jones	80	50	12	0	0
X.O'Neill	80	47	14	0	11
J.Cripps	84	43	11	0	0
A.Gaff	87	37	14	0	0
J.Rotham	68	36	5	0	0
C.Chesser	61	34	9	0	3
G.Clark	37	23	7	0	0
A.Witherden	35	16	8	2	0
E.Hewett	31	2	2	0	3

ADELAIDE

Player	Time On Ground %	Ranking Points	Disposals	Kick ins	Centre Bounce Attendances
R.Laird	73	151	32	0	20
D.Fogarty	84	136	18	0	0
M.Hinge	84	113	23	0	0
J.Dawson	88	105	26	5	0
R.O'Brien	80	103	17	0	0
B.Keays	81	95	18	0	6
T.Walker	85	88	15	0	0
S.Berry	69	86	19	0	17
B.Smith	81	83	22	2	0
J.Soligo	68	76	15	0	8
I.Rankine	92	71	13	0	3
H.Schoenberg	78	71	18	0	9
R.Sloane	82	69	18	0	1
J.Rachele	80	67	11	0	9
N.Murray	85	62	14	0	0
J.Butts	87	58	10	0	0
L.Pedlar	55	56	10	0	0
E.Himmelberg	82	47	14	0	0
P.Parnell	85	47	11	0	0
T.Doedee	88	41	11	2	0
S.McAdam	77	39	8	0	0
M.Michalanney	79	38	7	0	0
M.Crouch	15	23	9	0	5
T.Brown	21	16	8	0	6

So Laird and Berry are the mainstays and the rest rotate. Thought Schoenberg would have got more time.

 

[1970crow]

There’s no substitute for talent.

Surely continuity + experience + trying harderer beats talent.

 

[SuperBashBros]

We are definitely taking the shorter kick option and using that to move up the field. The quicker it happens, the more it shifts the oppo defence who are trying to run all the way back to cover the deep 50.

Vastly different to last year's movement which was pretty much the bomb down the line and try to compete at the contest / reset.

No better example of this than Crouchs new attacking mindset which is great to see. Every time he gets it now it's eyes forward.

 

[Danger in Texas]

So Laird and Berry are the mainstays and the rest rotate. Thought Schoenberg would have got more time.

Probably would have (same with Rankine and Soligo), if not for Crouch and Brown getting some run late in the game

 

[George Kramer]

Probably would have (same with Rankine and Soligo), if not for Crouch and Brown getting some run late in the game

Yeah that’s true. They are also more versatile upforward than Berry and Laird.

 

[Danger in Texas]

Yeah that’s true. They are also more versatile upforward than Berry and Laird.

It's just such a breath of fresh air to see how we're working our midfield rotations, thus far - not just having a bunch of players capable of running through there, but actually doing it and not just using four guys week in, week out

Hopefully it continues

 

[FullyBigKPro]

Rachele selling more candy than Willy Wonka

 

[George Kramer]

It's just such a breath of fresh air to see how we're working our midfield rotations, thus far - not just having a bunch of players capable of running through there, but actually doing it and not just using four guys week in, week out

Hopefully it continues

I know I like to quote myself so I’ll do it again.

When we drafted Rachelle, Soligo and Taylor a year after Pedlar, I hoped the plan was to play them as rotating small forwards/mids. Small forwards if they are being held don’t tend to contribute at all. But if they can play mid then it gets them involved and they still contribute.

Throw in Rankine as well and now we’ve got multiple small forwards/mids who can play dual roles.

If we’ve planned it it’s smart list management and recruiting.

 

[1970crow]

It's just such a breath of fresh air to see how we're working our midfield rotations, thus far - not just having a bunch of players capable of running through there, but actually doing it and not just using four guys week in, week out

Hopefully it continues

I've been banging on about this for years.

 

[Danger in Texas]

I know I like to quote myself so I’ll do it again.

When we drafted Rachelle, Soligo and Taylor a year after Pedlar, I hoped the plan was to play them as rotating small forwards/mids. Small forwards if they are being held don’t tend to contribute at all. But if they can play mid then it gets them involved and they still contribute.

Throw in Rankine as well and now we’ve got multiple small forwards/mids who can play dual roles.

If we’ve planned it it’s smart list management and recruiting.

Yep, you can never have too many guys that are smart and clean in traffic - arguably the main trait which allows Rachele/Soligo/Rankine to look top-notch in both areas of the ground. Seems like Pedlar will be more of a permanent forward this year, but hopefully will join them in the future

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Rachele selling more candy than Willy Wonka

Ferrero Rachele...

 

[maxlilly]

Surely continuity + experience + trying harderer beats talent.

I think the club and Nicks has gone for the more talenet path now, they've seen what happens with try harder types

 

[Crows I Am]

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The pre-season matches are all about role changes and moving magnets. So who from your side has rolled through the middle and who has been your chief distributor out of the backline? Champion Data have compiled all the key stats from the official preseason games - centre bounce attendances, time on ground (TOG) and kick-ins. This is crucial information to see what your club is thinking ahead of round one and to help with your KFC SuperCoach side.

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West Coast Eagles v Adelaide​

WEST COAST

Player	Time On Ground %	Ranking Points	Disposals	Kick ins	Centre Bounce Attendances
J.McGovern	87	144	25	2	0
R.Ginbey	56	99	17	0	12
S.Hurn	79	97	25	5	0
T.Barrass	89	88	15	0	0
L.Duggan	82	86	25	0	0
C.Jamieson	79	82	15	0	0
L.Shuey	54	81	20	0	7
J.Hunt	89	79	16	0	0
E.Yeo	67	78	20	0	12
T.Kelly	79	73	16	0	19
D.Sheed	75	73	21	0	17
T.Cole	88	68	16	0	0
L.Ryan	84	60	10	0	0
J.Waterman	82	60	11	0	0
O.Allen	88	52	8	0	0
J.Petruccelle	61	51	9	0	0
J.Jones	80	50	12	0	0
X.O'Neill	80	47	14	0	11
J.Cripps	84	43	11	0	0
A.Gaff	87	37	14	0	0
J.Rotham	68	36	5	0	0
C.Chesser	61	34	9	0	3
G.Clark	37	23	7	0	0
A.Witherden	35	16	8	2	0
E.Hewett	31	2	2	0	3

ADELAIDE

Player	Time On Ground %	Ranking Points	Disposals	Kick ins	Centre Bounce Attendances
R.Laird	73	151	32	0	20
D.Fogarty	84	136	18	0	0
M.Hinge	84	113	23	0	0
J.Dawson	88	105	26	5	0
R.O'Brien	80	103	17	0	0
B.Keays	81	95	18	0	6
T.Walker	85	88	15	0	0
S.Berry	69	86	19	0	17
B.Smith	81	83	22	2	0
J.Soligo	68	76	15	0	8
I.Rankine	92	71	13	0	3
H.Schoenberg	78	71	18	0	9
R.Sloane	82	69	18	0	1
J.Rachele	80	67	11	0	9
N.Murray	85	62	14	0	0
J.Butts	87	58	10	0	0
L.Pedlar	55	56	10	0	0
E.Himmelberg	82	47	14	0	0
P.Parnell	85	47	11	0	0
T.Doedee	88	41	11	2	0
S.McAdam	77	39	8	0	0
M.Michalanney	79	38	7	0	0
M.Crouch	15	23	9	0	5
T.Brown	21	16	8	0	6

Ginbey looks like he will be a gun. Great pick up for them.

 

[Crows I Am]

It's just such a breath of fresh air to see how we're working our midfield rotations, thus far - not just having a bunch of players capable of running through there, but actually doing it and not just using four guys week in, week out

Hopefully it continues

Agreed, we have so much flexibility now with 6-7 guys we can rotate through the midfield.

We went from having a midfield full of guys who could not play anywhere else, to now basically everyone in there who can play other roles.

 

[maxlilly]

You have got to give credit to Nicks, he has made all the selection changes that BF asked for last year