Which team out of Adelaide, North and Hawthorn has the better youth?

[Eddie Murphy]

I'm not even that big on Ginnivan, but 34 goals as a small forward at 19 is better than anything Jones has done.

Jones wouldn’t get traded for what was essentially an F2 upgrade.

 

[Eddie Murphy]

Why the * not?

We used our handouts to get the best youth.

The way you're sposed to.

D'uh

Because the AFL doesn’t hand out picks for past performance but for when the future also looks poor. The fact that the AFL has given you a handout (and the fact you asked for it) highlights that your future is not the brightest and your youth certainly aren’t the best in the league.

 

[the big lebowski]

Because the AFL doesn’t hand out picks for past performance but for when the future also looks poor. The fact that the AFL has given you a handout (and the fact you asked for it) highlights that your future is not the brightest and your youth certainly aren’t the best in the league.

lol past performance is basically the sole criteria

 

[Freomaniac]

North and Hawks are almost certain to finish bottom 6, not that its a bad thing for either side.

North Melbourne can tolerate another 3 win season to get more picks and kids.

No shame for the hawks to get 16th with 7 wins in 2023. The hawks could tolerate another bottom 6 finish in 2024 or another 6-8 win season then slowly move up the ladder in 2025.

Crows fixture is good. I wont be suprised if they got 12-14 wins in 2024.

 

[Judd2Sewell]

Jones wouldn’t get traded for what was essentially an F2 upgrade.

Because no one else would actually want him.

(He was decent this season and certainly saved his career)

 

[HeHateMe]

Yeah Newcombe and Day are no brainers, then Weddle as our third best is is the next easy choice but after that we have a number of guys who you could consider to round out the top 5. Take your pick of 2 of the following: Mackenzie, Macdonald, Ward, Watson, Ginnivan.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

North and Hawks are almost certain to finish bottom 6, not that its a bad thing for either side.

North Melbourne can tolerate another 3 win season to get more picks and kids.

No shame for the hawks to get 16th with 7 wins in 2023. The hawks could tolerate another bottom 6 finish in 2024 or another 6-8 win season then slowly move up the ladder in 2025.

Crows fixture is good. I wont be suprised if they got 12-14 wins in 2024.

Spoken like a true Freo supporter. Slow rebuilds and low expectations are for loser clubs.

 

[Engimal v3]

The hawks could tolerate another bottom 6 finish in 2024 or another 6-8 win season then slowly move up the ladder in 2025.

I think the Hawks are going to have to tolerate a lot of bottom 6 finishes lol

 

[LoBu]

I'm not even that big on Ginnivan, but 34 goals as a small forward at 19 is better than anything Jones has done.

Agreed, but 2023 was better for Jones than Ginnivan, neither are top 5

 

[peetoo]

I think the Hawks are going to have to tolerate a lot of bottom 6 finishes lol

Haven’t had a sub 80% percentage finish for 19 years 2004. Last one before that? 1967
It would be denying history
Cant imagine a run of such depressing seasons

 

[Engimal v3]

Haven’t had a sub 80% percentage finish for 19 years 2004. Last one before that? 1967
It would be denying history
Cant imagine a run of such depressing seasons

You won't have to imagine it lol

 

[peetoo]

You won't have to imagine it lol

One prelim 1992-2006 was bad enough. Yet the hawks membership growth was the biggest in its history. Near death in 1996 helps to wake folk up.
The movement will be up for us from now on. After a run of very poor seasons north cleared out key players, something when north fan barratt accused hawthorn of ‘deliberately tanking’ last year

 

[Engimal v3]

One prelim 1992-2006 was bad enough. Yet the hawks membership growth was the biggest in its history. Near death in 1996 helps to wake folk up.
The movement will be up for us from now on. After a run of very poor seasons north cleared out key players, something when north fan barratt accused hawthorn of ‘deliberately tanking’ last year

I don't think Hawks were tanking, I think they're just crap

 

[Crankyhawk]

Sucks to be below geelong in that table

Because of this I had to check if you meant we were below Geelong…

 

[ferball]

lol past performance is basically the sole criteria

Hey Eddie - see this post.

 

[Rory Walkerfield]

Chayce Jones is Adelaide’s 4th best under 24 according to this.

This just proves these “journalists” don’t actually watch the teams close enough.

Jones will be a reasonable player for a long time. But for example Soligo has already surpassed him and on his way to being an A grade (not elite) midfielder.

 

[Eddie Murphy]

Hey Eddie - see this post.

Any team that supposedly had/has the best youth in the league would not need to ask the AFL for an intervention in improving their list. It’s that simple. The handouts weren’t used to improve the “mature players” on your list, they were used to bring in yet more youngsters who are vulnerable to the same developmental risk factors that have impacted the club for nearly a decade.

 

[Elmer_Judd]

Any team that supposedly had/has the best youth in the league would not need to ask the AFL for an intervention in improving their list. It’s that simple. The handouts weren’t used to improve the “mature players” on your list, they were used to bring in yet more youngsters who are vulnerable to the same developmental hazards that have impacted the club for a decade.

Larkey, LDU, Sheezel and Wardlaw disprove your theory that North cannot develop young players.

 

[TheUnicorn]

Larkey, LDU, Sheezel and Wardlaw disprove your theory that North cannot develop young players.

Sheezel had 34 disposals in his first game 100 days after he was drafted they can hardly take much credit

 

[ferball]

Any team that supposedly had/has the best youth in the league would not need to ask the AFL for an intervention in improving their list. It’s that simple. The handouts weren’t used to improve the “mature players” on your list, they were used to bring in yet more youngsters who are vulnerable to the same developmental risk factors that have impacted the club for nearly a decade.

We did bring in older mature players using those handouts - Logue, Tucker, Fisher and Stephens. The rest of our draft hand is down to good trading by the people responsible.

You'll be happy to know the same developmental risk factors that have impacted the club for nearly a decade have been moved on and the kids are no longer vulnerable to their inability to develop players like Larkey, Simpkin, Davies-Uniacke and Bailey Scott.

 

[KiwiRoo]

One prelim 1992-2006 was bad enough. Yet the hawks membership growth was the biggest in its history. Near death in 1996 helps to wake folk up.
The movement will be up for us from now on. After a run of very poor seasons north cleared out key players, something when north fan barratt accused hawthorn of ‘deliberately tanking’ last year

Please post something that "North Fan" Barrett has written that is indicative of his support for North.

Been much much harsher on North than anything he's said about the Hawks