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That's why you're getting short replies. Suggesting that other than 1 game Kreuzer has only shown patches.
Has Kruezer been terribly disappointing?
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That's why you're getting short replies. Suggesting that other than 1 game Kreuzer has only shown patches.
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In the event that Ellis and Conca became stars, would Richmond trade either Martin, Deledio or Cotchin to get a gun KPD or ruck?
What??
This topic is terribly disappointing.
Missed a whole year of football. I don't need to defend him, he will do it himself this year, and for many years to come. Very glad he wears the navy blue.
Missed a whole year of football. I don't need to defend him, he will do it himself this year, and for many years to come. Very glad he wears the navy blue.
You obviously didn't see Ted Hopkins in the 1970 GF.
FWIW, Kreuzer has shown a fair bit more than Hansen. In Hansen's defence he has never been allowed to settle in one position, being shunted backward & forward. Where is his best position, forward or back?
In the event that Ellis and Conca became stars, would Richmond trade either Martin, Deledio or Cotchin to get a gun KPD or ruck?
Erm, in your haste to make a snide point you've failed to realise that Ellis and Conca would probably play back, whereas Cotchin and Martin would play midfield. Ergo, Deledio would probably play forward. Or go to another club, which sounds likely. And anyway, Richmond are still a long way away from the kind of depth in midfield that you have in your ruck division. I mean, Richmond still plays players like Jackson through its midfield, and hardly has any forward flankers. Allowing Deledio to play forward would be fantastic.
There's also the issue of midfield depth, which seems a big issue. I'd rather have supreme midfield depth than 3 rucks in the 22. Hawthorn proved that you don't need an A grade ruck division to win flags.
50 goals a season not quite enough for a small forward?
Keep the ball rolling and lets throw in Yarran vs Alwyn Davey.
I can understand some questioning Kreuzer, but that may just be as much for him being out of the game for almost 2 years now.
He played part of last year but he was carrying too much weight which really slowed him down after that terrific Swans game.
Unfortunately finished the year off with another leg injury of sorts which then ruled him out off the finals.
In answer to the OP: Far from disappointing, but disappointed for his injuries.
this is not an issue for carlton.
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Wrong. Its actually the fact that since he was drafted, Carlton fans have always held him in such high regard, without actually proving it on game day.
Wrong? Right.
Which game day do you think he didn't prove anything on.
Virtually won the game for us against Port in his first year at the club and has been developing very well since, until injury prevailed.
Do remember that he is a ruck-man and not a mid-fielder, also. Just for your information.
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What's funny in these "conversations" is that we'll hear people wording up Bellchambers for instance, as a ruck star in the making, yet Kreuzer is already over the hill.
FFS, they're the same age. (22)
FFS, they're the same age. (22)
Want to hear some wow.
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If this were the case, this thread wouldn't exist..
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Does your argument hinge on every thread on BigFooty having merit
Or do you actually want to discuss his performances?
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Good player, but I don't think he'll ever be a top three ruck.
This is BF, not Encyclopedia Brittanica
A 22 year old ruckman that has spent over a year out with an knee injury and this thread is relative?
Damn Kreuzer for doing his ACL.
Steele Sidebottom has shown a lot more than Vickery to date.
Can you see the correlation?
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So you would prefer Sidebottom to Kruezer then.
I don't need to spell it out for you, do I?
(Big men take longer to develop, but don't tell anyone.)
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An astounding display of comprehension!
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Thank you.
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prior to his knee injury he was looking like he was going to become one of the games dominant ruckmen. even on his return he was still thoroughly impressive in a number of games.
him, nic nat, leunenberger, goldstein, z smith and clark (if the latter can get his arse back into gear) will have some epic battles. could be an absolute golden age of ruckmen.
him, nic nat, leunenberger, goldstein, z smith and clark (if the latter can get his arse back into gear) will have some epic battles. could be an absolute golden age of ruckmen.
If Ratten plays this guy as a forward he should be sacked. He will be the best ruck in the game by a long long way if allowed to be first ruck. Just get rid of Warnock and play Hampson in "the Leigh Brown role"!!!!
His follow up work competing and doing all the "unsexy stuff" was amazing, his taps were nice to but his run was beyond 1st class.
The only way he'd ever get beaten in the ruck is if another ruck who is more agile than him, could only think of Ryder or Nic Nat, play a purely defensive role on him. Even then he'd be dragging what could be an offensive weapon for the other side out of play.
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