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Knew I was forgetting someoneMcGrath?
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Knew I was forgetting someoneMcGrath?
Baguley Hartley Ambrose
Saad Hurley McKenna
Zaharakis Heppell McGrath
Stringer Daniher Smith
Fantasia Hooker AMT
Bellchambers Parish Merrett
Goddard Gleeson Stewart Laverde
valid argument, I think in certain match up's Hooker can be effective, Hawkins is the right match up for him. He would struggle to find match up's each week though as there aren't many teams that have that stay at home monster anymore Cats, Giants, Power, Swans, North all have his type quickly off the top of my head but he'd be battling to find a match up v Tigers, Crows, Dogs, Dees, Saints, Hawks and Pies.Disagree. Hooker has towelled up a number of the oppositions best forwards when he was AA and playing defence. I remember one game where geelong beat us by 8 goals and Hawkins still didnt get a touch on Hooker. Would take the monsters that Ambrose and Hartley have shown an inability to play on.
Hurley and Gleeson are more than capable stoppers. I actually think Hurley is a better stopper than interceptor (he is still very good at the latter however). He played more intercepting this year as we had no one else other than maybe Gleeson to do it.
I would back Hooker, Hurley and Gleeson (with the right matchup) to win their 1 v 1 most weeks. McKenna is adequate but can have lapses, however I see your issue with Goddard and Saad though.
McKenna's 1-on-1 defending has improved a lot. He's not a star by any means but it's gotten to a point where it's "AFL standard". As has Saad, but the Gold Coast defensive structures are a shambles so I'd back it to be better in our system.valid argument, I think in certain match up's Hooker can be effective, Hawkins is the right match up for him. He would struggle to find match up's each week though as there aren't many teams that have that stay at home monster anymore Cats, Giants, Power, Swans, North all have his type quickly off the top of my head but he'd be battling to find a match up v Tigers, Crows, Dogs, Dees, Saints, Hawks and Pies.
Too be honest I was more alluding to the small defenders Saad, McKenna and Goddard are all poor 1:1 defenders and with the league all leaning towards small, mobile - defence first forwards I think these guys would be a liability if they were our first choice small backs.
I agree that McKenna has scope and aptitude for improvement but I still don't think he is at a decent standard yet. In basketball vernacular he gets caught with his head turned too much for my liking.McKenna's 1-on-1 defending has improved a lot. He's not a star by any means but it's gotten to a point where it's "AFL standard". As has Saad, but the Gold Coast defensive structures are a shambles so I'd back it to be better in our system.
I agree that McKenna has scope and aptitude for improvement but I still don't think he is at a decent standard yet. In basketball vernacular he gets caught with his head turned too much for my liking.
I agree that the Suns d-fence is horrible so making an accurate assessment of Saad is hard, also considering his a hard running overlap player who traditionally are poor 1:1 defenders. Too be honest I haven't seen much of the Suns so what I've seen of Saad I've mostly liked but he has been shown up for his ability to track and maintain a man.
Where this started was a team was posted(a good team all in all) where Saad, McKenna, Gleeson and Goddard were the small defenders, my question on that group of defenders is who plays on Betts, Greene, Garlett, Rioli etc? Gleeson is solid but I'd be really concerned about the others picking up a dynamic small forward.
Surprised not many people have Josh Green in their best 22. He did pretty well this year playing 17 games, averaging 11 possessions, 3 tackles and a goal a game. Certainly he did better than Langford or Laverde who everyone seems to have in their teams. At 25 Green is really coming into his prime, and he always brings intensity and energy to the way he plays so could be pretty dangerous coming off the bench I reckon...
Ambrose Hurley Baguley
Gleeson Hooker Saad
Parish Heppell McGrath
Stringer Stewart Smith
Fantasia Daniher Tippa
Bellcho Zakka Z.Merrett
Bench from: Goddard Langford McKenna Green
11 possessions, 3 tackles and 1 goal/game is "pretty good" for a small forward now?Surprised not many people have Josh Green in their best 22. He did pretty well this year playing 17 games, averaging 11 possessions, 3 tackles and a goal a game. Certainly he did better than Langford or Laverde who everyone seems to have in their teams. At 25 Green is really coming into his prime, and he always brings intensity and energy to the way he plays so could be pretty dangerous coming off the bench I reckon...
Ambrose Hurley Baguley
Gleeson Hooker Saad
Parish Heppell McGrath
Stringer Stewart Smith
Fantasia Daniher Tippa
Bellcho Zakka Z.Merrett
Bench from: Goddard Langford McKenna Green
That would require him to not be soft as butter.I have been wondering if due to his size if Green could turn into an inside mid who just shovels the ball out of the ball up, I don't discount Green but he seems to be one of those guys that fans either like or dislike.
I actually don't mind the idea of Walla going back this year if the Pulsar SSS arrives at Tulla by the end of next week.Walla and McGrath can play on these guys. Need to assess the match ups week by week. I think we are going to need McGrath in the middle more than we will need Walla up forward if we land Stringer and Smith. Walla might have to swing a bit next year especially when we play Adelaide, Hawthorn, Richmond, GWS....
Mckenna?I actually don't mind the idea of Walla going back this year if the Pulsar SSS arrives at Tulla by the end of next week.
Backline would be a much better structure with;
Bags - Hooker - Ambro
Walla - Hurley - Gleeson
With guys like Saad, McGrath, Ridley + others rolling through based on match ups.
Hope this is the right thread.
Nice job with Smith, saad and stringer.
You guys will be very fun to watch next year...speed all over the park. Will easily be the paciest team in the afl.
I'm interested to see which way things go...whether essendons speed and run overwhelmes and breaks open some teams, or if your smaller bodies especially in the midfield and perhaps lack of inside mids will hurt.
Saw article on afl website today say essendon have a very small midfield with Smith, Merritt, parish, McGrath etc. Heppell one of the only bigger body mids.
But watching the rebound with mckenna, kicking to McGrath, handball to the running saad, pass to Smith, over the top to tippa to kick to fantasia running into goal will be sublime!
Surprised not many people have Josh Green in their best 22. He did pretty well this year playing 17 games, averaging 11 possessions, 3 tackles and a goal a game. Certainly he did better than Langford or Laverde who everyone seems to have in their teams. At 25 Green is really coming into his prime, and he always brings intensity and energy to the way he plays so could be pretty dangerous coming off the bench I reckon...
Ambrose Hurley Baguley
Gleeson Hooker Saad
Parish Heppell McGrath
Stringer Stewart Smith
Fantasia Daniher Tippa
Bellcho Zakka Z.Merrett
Bench from: Goddard Langford McKenna Green
Lol, he's done well to get what he could out of himself. But he won't be on our list in 2019, let alone best 22.I have been wondering if due to his size if Green could turn into an inside mid who just shovels the ball out of the ball up, I don't discount Green but he seems to be one of those guys that fans either like or dislike.
Lol, he's done well to get what he could out of himself. But he won't be on our list in 2019, let alone best 22.
11 possessions, 3 tackles and 1 goal/game is "pretty good" for a small forward now?
Langford as a comparison averaged more tackles, marks, disposals, inside 50's than him. Plus can play through the midfield.
Laverde was seriously affected by injury all year.
Green's spot will be taken by Smith or Stringer and Hooker will not be playing defence.