2019 5th Ashes Test 12-17 September - The Oval

[Rich the babe Evans]

So indirectly, they're saying their own bowling attack is garbage?



Oookay?

But but... I thought Archer was the best bowler ever!

 

[big bootaaaaah]

he's top scoring in this innings by double at hte moment and you think he's not batting pretty well? fair dinkum...

I’ve repeatedly said he’s batting ok this innings actually but he’s not looking rock solid and apparently he’s in the side for being in hot form, I’d hate to see him in any kind of slump was my point. He’s hanging in there at best.

 

[k31th]

As opposed to the people posting false information?

You and I have already discussed the fact your interpretation of "umpire's call" meaning "should be out" is miss-aligned with the laws of cricket and has skewed your statistics.

 

[deanc]

Thank goodness they didn't let Marsh score a lot! Was getting worried for a second them dropping catches, and what not

Sure, wouldn't want any batsmen to save or win this test for Aus now would we...

 

[Crankitup]

Despite all your claims of hawkeye being incorrect you haven't been able to give a single example of the point of pitching or impact being wrong on hawkeye so far this series.

You haven't read all my posts then.

If you're still talking about the Warner decision the other day then I'm still bemused that people don't consider a spike on ultraedge exactly as the ball passed the bat as conclusive.

Still talking? I don't recall saying anything about the Warner decision other than agreeing with others that the delay in coming up with the ultra-edge vision was a concern. It's almost like they spliced a sound bite in. Every time there's been a delay with DRS decisions it's always gone against us. Highly suspicious if you ask me. England's found a safer way to cheat than using mints or sandpaper.

 

[ABAB]

Off the top of my head Warner was also given not out after nicking it behind in the first innings.

That's 1 to 5 (2 LBW this Test + 3 LBW in the 2nd Test) off the top of my head.

 

[Mateyman]

Uhhhhh no we will not be showing about Rory burns in a similar fashion in 5 years, 10 years, 20 years or 100 years

 

[A Pom]

You and I have already discussed the fact your interpretation of "umpire's call" meaning "should be out" is miss-aligned with the laws of cricket and has skewed your statistics.

My 'interpretation' is exactly what the laws state. What the arbitrary DRS regs state are irrelevant to the on-field umpire.

 

[Topkent]

Carey...?

Would need to average 40

 

[k31th]

I’ve repeatedly said he’s batting ok this innings actually but he’s not looking rock solid and apparently he’s in the side for being in hot form, I’d hate to see him in any kind of slump was my point. He’s hanging in there at best.

he's in hot form whilst also not having the most rock solid technique, but a good eye, from what I've watched. When he's out of form he looks a lot worse than he's shown in this series.

 

[A Pom]

That's 1 to 5 (2 LBW this Test + 3 LBW in the 2nd Test) off the top of my head.

They were included in the 17-15 count up until the end of the 4th test.

 

[CrowBloke]

He’s a rather jittery looking fella Wade almost like he has a nervous tic or something

Smith makes Wade look like a statue.

 

[Mateyman]

Off the top of my head Warner was also given not out after nicking it behind in the first innings.

I don't think anybody appealed. Can't be given out without an appeal

 

[k31th]

My 'interpretation' is exactly what the laws state. What the arbitrary DRS regs state are irrelevant to the on-field umpire.

just plain wrong, mate... the DRS "regs" are within the laws of cricket, as previously proven.

 

[Andronicus]

As opposed to the people posting false information?

Look who it is. England must be doing ok at the moment.

 

[ABAB]

They were included in the 17-15 county up until the end of the 4th test.

I said these should be worth double as the decision is way worst than umpire's call.

 

[A Pom]

I don't think anybody appealed. Can't be given out without an appeal

It was reviewed and given out... there was clearly an appeal.

 

[Righteo]

Well the blokes who have given him 31 tests as a batsman Cleary dispute it, we just batted him at six in a test we needed to draw to win a series in england.

Sadly they're the only ones who can't see it

 

[big bootaaaaah]

No you don't, feel free to go through Cricbuzz yourself. I posted the list of umpires call decisions in the last match thread so that can get you started.

Despite all your claims of hawkeye being incorrect you haven't been able to give a single example of the point of pitching or impact being wrong on hawkeye so far this series. If you're still talking about the Warner decision the other day then I'm still bemused that people don't consider a spike on ultraedge exactly as the ball passed the bat as conclusive.

I assume you’ve seen this , the exact pic used by DRS when the spike occurred

 

[ABAB]

It was reviewed and given out... there was clearly an appeal.

The one in the 1st Test wasn't appealed so 0-5 (the one in this Test is still debatable).

 

[Mateyman]

It was reviewed and given out... there was clearly an appeal.

Ah I thought you meant the one down leg

 

[CrowBloke]

Warner:
Qu. He has played some bad shots this series, even nicking off when he was trying to leave the ball, but what's the dumbest thing he's done?

A. He put on sunscreen before coming out to bat today.

 

[carlton2dabone]

I went through it last game on this very forum and gave people a list. Australia had both a greater number of decisions in their favour and a greater number of umpires-call decisions given in their favour.

Does that include all the times that the original decision of the umpire was not out but Paine didn’t review?

 

[A Pom]

I assume you’ve seen this , the exact pic used by DRS when the spike occurred

The only thing this image proved was that an incredible amount of people don't understand what ultraedge is showing them. Ultraedge is a time-sound level graph. Stuff in the middle of the graph is happening during the current frame you're seeing, stuff to the left is stuff that happened just before the frame you see and stuff to the right happens just after the frame you're seeing.

In the case of Warners decision there was a frame just before the ball passed the bat (the one you've provided) and one just after the ball passed the bat. The one just before had a spike to the right of the graph (showing a sound just after this frame) and the one just after had a spike to the left (just before this frame) showing between those frames there was a sound. This proved there was a sound as the ball passed the bat. I hope that clears it up a bit for you.

 

[big bootaaaaah]

he's in hot form whilst also not having the most rock solid technique, but a good eye, from what I've watched. When he's out of form he looks a lot worse than he's shown in this series.

I hope he proves me wrong and gets a decent test average of around 40 going playing for Australia but I’m not holding my breath.