Herald-Sun: "Rampant Tigers carry hopes of state in Grand Final"

[Americanpies]

I think state identity is still pretty important. We're a federal system, so states are pretty autonomous, and remember we were separate colonies that came together to federate. NSW, VIC, QLD, SA, WA were basically separate countries.

In WA it's more a 'west vs the rest' or the west and the eastern states. When the Eagles entered and won their first GF in 92 they were seen as the WA state side in the VFL basically (and the nascent AFL). Taking the club from Victoria to WA was akin to us pinching the America's Cup before that.

To add to this.. I think the rivalry with Sydney/Melbourne revolves around their similarities and size. Both cities want to brag about being the biggest and the best. And the AFL Vs NRL battle is real too. Sydney just want to take stuff from Melbourne, like The Tennis, Grand Prix, etc.. they are always trying to poach events, but can't. They see winning the AFL Premiership as some sort of victory, but Melbournians don't really care. We just laugh when the Storm keeps kicking their ass in the NRL, and watch them cry when their precious NRL Premiership comes down to a city that nobody gives a hoot about their sport lol.

 

[PerthBoy86]

To add to this.. I think the rivalry with Sydney/Melbourne revolves around their similarities and size. Both cities want to brag about being the biggest and the best. And the AFL Vs NRL battle is real too. Sydney just want to take stuff from Melbourne, like The Tennis, Grand Prix, etc.. they are always trying to poach events, but can't. They see winning the AFL Premiership as some sort of victory, but Melbournians don't really care. We just laugh when the Storm keeps kicking their ass in the NRL, and watch them cry when their precious NRL Premiership comes down to a city that nobody gives a hoot about their sport lol.

Yeah kinda interesting how the Storm have had so much success in the NRL, and the Swans and lately Giants in the AFL. Swans have a lot more casual fans in Sydney than Storm in Melbourne.

 

[demondavey]

Nobody forgets the losers of a prelim. Literally no one. Semis and Eliminations, unless memorable, sure. But they dont really matter. Prelims and Grannys are almost always remembered.

Observe. Who can tell me: what year and who they were playing and the result...

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WB v Adelaide PF in 97. Adelaide won by 2 points.

 

[PerthBoy86]

Feel free to support Melbourne if we ever make one. We will need all the support we can get, mind you, by the time we make a GF global warming would’ve wiped out the snow fields so no excuses.

I did last year...until you met us, of course. Hope they can break the 55 year and counting drought. The Beatles came downunder in 1964 for goodness sake.

 

[Bomberboyokay]

Do Sydney and Melbourne have a rivalry? Outside the w***er arts world I mean.

Melburnians have no real reason to add extras to their Australian identity. Imagine Sydney is basically the same. 'Grrrr my state!' plays in places that aren't lodestones.

 

[PerthBoy86]

WB v Adelaide PF in 97. Adelaide won by 2 points.

Adelaide in 97 destroying the chances of two teams to break really long droughts. A Bulldogs vs Saints granny would've been pretty epic. The drought-breaking granny.

 

[demondavey]

Do Sydney and Melbourne have a rivalry? Outside the w***er arts world I mean.

Melburnians have no real reason to add extras to their Australian identity. Imagine Sydney is basically the same. 'Grrrr my state!' plays in places that aren't lodestones.

I don’t think they really do

 

[demondavey]

I did last year...until you met us, of course. Hope they can break the 55 year and counting drought. The Beatles came downunder in 1964 for goodness sake.

Don’t hold your breath. Although I do have a strange feeling things might turn next year.

 

[PerthBoy86]

Don’t hold your breath. Although I do have a strange feeling things might turn next year.

Unfortunately didn't see any positive signs this year. Were expecting them to find some of their 2018 form, but no, were crap all year. I dunno, I like Goodwin but maybe hard questions should be asked and decisions made.

 

[demondavey]

Adelaide in 97 destroying the chances of two teams to break really long droughts. A Bulldogs vs Saints granny would've been pretty epic. The drought-breaking granny.

Would’ve been amazing, but it certainly cemented the Crows into history with not only one but two consecutive flags. Huge for South Australia.

 

[BigVic]

Last year they eliminated the Eagles from the front page before the prelim final. Typical Vic bias

 

[demondavey]

Unfortunately didn't see any positive signs this year. Were expecting them to find some of their 2018 form, but no, were crap all year. I dunno, I like Goodwin but maybe hard questions should be asked and decisions made.

Can only improve next year. Goodwin? Meh.....50/50

 

[demondavey]

Last year they eliminated the Eagles from the front page before the prelim final. Typical Vic bias

Did they not realise who they we playing in a PF?

 

[Bomberboyokay]

I don’t think they really do

My life has more in common with someone in Sydney than Horsham or Shepparton.

 

[Cuzz09]

Its a Vic paper. They sell to vic people.

Im fine with them not having Eagles pics on there.

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[hilly]

I don't know why the media persists with this rubbish. Year after year, we hear "Insert Victorian team" carry states hopes.

Anyone who understands tribal footy culture going back 100 years, knows that we as Victorians hate the other Victorian clubs. It's the same in the EPL and any tribal localised sporting league. Richmond do not carry the hopes of Victoria, nor should they. They carry the hopes of their own fans. You'd think the Herald-Sun would be beyond this rubbish, as this is now the 8th consecutive year a Victorian club has met a non-Victorian club. I expected this sort of crap in the early 90's when the national comp was just fledging, but not in 2019.

News Limited. Enough said.

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[demondavey]

My life has more in common with someone in Sydney than Horsham or Shepparton.

Me too, but having lived in Sydney I’d not live there again.

 

[Cleavy]

News Limited. Enough said.

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News Limited or Limited News

 

[PerthBoy86]

Would’ve been amazing, but it certainly cemented the Crows into history with not only one but two consecutive flags. Huge for South Australia.

Yep, they did it the hard way. Great for Blighty too. I feel that was when the comp became really national (though some might argue it still isn't).

 

[raymond35]

You should try not being a fu** wit.

The tolerance of the left on display

 

[demondavey]

Yep, they did it the hard way. Great for Blighty too. I feel that was when the comp became really national (though some might argue it still isn't).

When West Coast beat Geelong that was impressive. In 1992. The Eagles were a serious side in the nineties. Should’ve got one more flag as they were that good. Prior to 97 we’d already seen WC play in 3 Grand Finals.

 

[Bomberboyokay]

The tolerance of the left on display

There's no tolerance for lying.

 

[PerthBoy86]

When West Coast beat Geelong that was impressive. In 1992. The Eagles were a serious side in the nineties. Should’ve got one more flag as they were that good. Prior to 97 we’d already seen WC play in 3 Grand Finals.

Yeah we did well to star in our first GF in our fifth season. We were a powerhouse in the early 90s, could've had a third. Adelaide started quickly too, got close in 93, their third season. Port also peaked early, topping the ladder in 01, their 5th season, and getting a flag in 2004. Brisbane and Fitzroy of course were cellar dwellers in most of the 90s, but the Lions threepeat has overshadowed that. Swans weren't very good until their first gf appearance, but still took 23 years to win it since South relocated. Dockers 24 years in and no flag in sight.

 

[demondavey]

Herald Sun is for old right wing conservatives. Who else would buy in to provincial junk dished up from a company headquartered in New York.

The same type that watch Sonia Krueger and Kerry Ann Kennelly.

 

[demondavey]

Yeah we did well to star in our first GF in our fifth season. We were a powerhouse in the early 90s, could've had a third. Adelaide started quickly too, got close in 93, their third season. Port also peaked early, topping the ladder in 91, their 5th season, and getting a flag in 2004. Dockers 24 years in and no flag in sight.

Culture of Fremantle compared to WC is vastly inferior though. Eagles, Crows and Power were set up incredibly well.