Greatest Dynasty of the 21st century - Lions vs Cats vs Hawks vs Tigers

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PhatBoy said:
Richmond would have been the next on the list obviously. Collingwood I think are on the fringe. Some big highs but some fairly bad downs at times too. I'd group them with an Adelaide.
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Collingwood haven't had any genuine downs in the Eddie era

04 and 05 struggled but bounced right back

Missed finals 4 yrs in a row with Bucks but were never bottom 4 or anything.

And in that time they've been right at the cusp of a premiership in 3 diff eras- 02 03, 10 11 and 18 19.

That's something I've noticed- power clubs like Coll, WC are rarely down for long. Carlton the one exception. Even Ess, yes they have been unsuccessful but they've rarely been right down the bottom.

Clubs like Saints, Melb and Dogs have found themselves struggling and its taken them 5, 6, 7 years to get back into finals. And they really bottom out. North hasn't made it 4 straight years and won't be back anytime soon.
 
Geelong- 3 time premiership players

Bartel
Chapman
Corey
Enright
Johnson
Kelly
Ling
Mackie
Ottens
Selwood
Scarlett
Wojinscki


Players who were team regulars or in the selection mix for 5 years but missed one flag due to form or injury

2007 and 2011:
Hunt- 2007 and 2011. ACL injury kept him out in 2009.
Stokes- 2007 and 2011. Missed 2009 prelim due to groin injury. Couldn't get back into side for 2009 GF after Geelong thrashed Collingwood.

Others:
Byrnes- 2007 and 2009. Calf and knee injuries in 2011. Emergency for 2011 GF.
Hawkins- 2009 and 2011. Rookie in 2007; played 9 games.
Milburn- 2007 and 2009. Played 14 games in 2011; emergency for 2011 GF.
Mooney- 2007 and 2009. Injuries in 2011, played 8 games only and retired after 2011.
Varcoe- 2009 and 2011. Played 18 games in 2007. Missed selection for GF.


2 time premiership players with Geelong for the majority of the 5 year period
Ablett- 2007 and 2009. Joined Gold Coast for 2011.
Harley- 2007 and 2009. Retired after 2009.
Rooke- 2007 and 2009. Significant injuries forced him out of the game. Last season 2010.
Taylor- 2009 and 2011. Rookie in 2008. Regular 2008-2011.


Geelong’s continuity
  • 19 players in the selection mix from 2007 to 2011, but 7 only played two flags due to injury or form.
  • 14 players who played in 2007 and 2011 premierships. 2 missed 2009 due to injury, making 12 triple premiership players.
  • The top 8 of the 2011 B&F were all triple premiership players. Enright, Corey, Bartel, Ling, Kelly, Selwood, Scarlett, Johnson.
  • 7 of the top 10 in the 2007 B&F were triple premiership players: Bartel, Ling, Scarlett Corey, Johnson, Ottens, Enright.
  • 6 players were top 10 in both the 2007 and 2011 B&F: Enright, Corey, Bartel, Ling, Johnson, Scarlett.
  • Ottens, Selwood and Kelly are triple premiership players who finished top 10 in one year's B&F or the other. Wojcinski, Mackie and Chapman didn't finish top 10 in either year but played 3 premierships (Chapman was All Australian in 2009 and 2010).
  • 11 of the 12 triple premiership players were All Australians at some point in their careers.

Longevity of Greatness
  • With 19 players in the selection mix for the entire 5 year period, 14 players who played in the bookending 2007 and 2011 flags, and 12 triple premiership players, Geelong had substantial continuity through their team or group for 5 years. They had substantially the same team.

  • Geelong also had substantially the same core- with most of the 12 premiership players being amongst their best players, as shown by the 2007 and 2011 Best and Fairest results.

  • Contrast this to Hawthorn: Only 9 continuing players to 2013 and 6 to 2015. Only 4 of the top 10 in the 2013 B&F and 4 of the top 10 in 2015 were continuing from 2008.

  • Hawthorn joins other clubs who have won flags longer apart but with a substantially different core. Essendon 1993 and 2000 (5 continuing players), Sydney 2005 and 2012.

  • Others had a continuing core and team, and were competing for flags for extended periods but failed to achieve flag-winning greatness 4 years apart. Brisbane, Hawthorn, North Melbourne.

  • Geelong achieved a flag-winning level of greatness with substantially the same team 4 years apart. They are the only team of the AFL era to achieve this. North Melbourne did it 3 years apart in 1996 and 1999.

  • Richmond has the opportunity to match this feat in 2021.


Back2Back
  • The knock on Geelong was they never went back2back.

  • Plenty of teams have gone B2B in the AFL era- Adelaide, Brisbane, Hawthorn, Richmond. Sydney came very close.

  • There are 16 clubs who have existed for the majority of the AFL era (Exc. GWS and GC who are new). Basically a third of the competition has gone back2back or come extremely close.

  • Geelong achieved something none of those teams did.

  • Geelong was the only team still good enough to win a flag 4 years later with substantially the same group.

  • What Geelong did was rarer, and therefore more impressive.


Geelong vs the AFL system

  • Since the salary cap was introduced in 1987, 11 of the 14 clubs who existed in 1987 have won a flag. (All but St.Kilda who got to the dying seconds twice in a row, Melbourne who lost the 2000 GF and Fitzroy who merged with Brisbane- who won 3). Adelaide (joined 1991) and Port (joined 1997) have also won a flag. From a long term perspective, winning a flag isn’t that impressive.

  • The salary cap and draft are designed to ensure that every team has an opportunity to win. And that’s happened. But teams aren’t meant to stay at the top and keep winning flags over a 5 year period. That’s not how the AFL intends the system to work.

  • Teams generally have a short “premiership window” and then rebuild or restore. However Geelong kept a group together and won another flag, 4 years after their first flag with the same group. Something no one else has done.

  • Geelong beat the AFL system like no one else has.
 
PJays said:
Geelong- 3 time premiership players

Bartel
Chapman
Corey
Enright
Johnson
Kelly
Ling
Mackie
Ottens
Selwood
Scarlett
Wojinscki


Players who were team regulars or in the selection mix for 5 years but missed one flag due to form or injury

2007 and 2011:
Hunt- 2007 and 2011. ACL injury kept him out in 2009.
Stokes- 2007 and 2011. Missed 2009 prelim due to groin injury. Couldn't get back into side for 2009 GF after Geelong thrashed Collingwood.

Others:
Byrnes- 2007 and 2009. Calf and knee injuries in 2011. Emergency for 2011 GF.
Hawkins- 2009 and 2011. Rookie in 2007; played 9 games.
Milburn- 2007 and 2009. Played 14 games in 2011; emergency for 2011 GF.
Mooney- 2007 and 2009. Injuries in 2011, played 8 games only and retired after 2011.
Varcoe- 2009 and 2011. Played 18 games in 2007. Missed selection for GF.


2 time premiership players with Geelong for the majority of the 5 year period
Ablett- 2007 and 2009. Joined Gold Coast for 2011.
Harley- 2007 and 2009. Retired after 2009.
Rooke- 2007 and 2009. Significant injuries forced him out of the game. Last season 2010.
Taylor- 2009 and 2011. Rookie in 2008. Regular 2008-2011.


Geelong’s continuity
  • 19 players in the selection mix from 2007 to 2011, but 7 only played two flags due to injury or form.
  • 14 players who played in 2007 and 2011 premierships. 2 missed 2009 due to injury, making 12 triple premiership players.
  • The top 8 of the 2011 B&F were all triple premiership players. Enright, Corey, Bartel, Ling, Kelly, Selwood, Scarlett, Johnson.
  • 7 of the top 10 in the 2007 B&F were triple premiership players: Bartel, Ling, Scarlett Corey, Johnson, Ottens, Enright.
  • 6 players were top 10 in both the 2007 and 2011 B&F: Enright, Corey, Bartel, Ling, Johnson, Scarlett.
  • Ottens, Selwood and Kelly are triple premiership players who finished top 10 in one year's B&F or the other. Wojcinski, Mackie and Chapman didn't finish top 10 in either year but played 3 premierships (Chapman was All Australian in 2009 and 2010).
  • 11 of the 12 triple premiership players were All Australians at some point in their careers.

Longevity of Greatness
  • With 19 players in the selection mix for the entire 5 year period, 14 players who played in the bookending 2007 and 2011 flags, and 12 triple premiership players, Geelong had substantial continuity through their team or group for 5 years. They had substantially the same team.

  • Geelong also had substantially the same core- with most of the 12 premiership players being amongst their best players, as shown by the 2007 and 2011 Best and Fairest results.

  • Contrast this to Hawthorn: Only 9 continuing players to 2013 and 6 to 2015. Only 4 of the top 10 in the 2013 B&F and 4 of the top 10 in 2015 were continuing from 2008.

  • Hawthorn joins other clubs who have won flags longer apart but with a substantially different core. Essendon 1993 and 2000 (5 continuing players), Sydney 2005 and 2012.

  • Others had a continuing core and team, and were competing for flags for extended periods but failed to achieve flag-winning greatness 4 years apart. Brisbane, Hawthorn, North Melbourne.

  • Geelong achieved a flag-winning level of greatness with substantially the same team 4 years apart. They are the only team of the AFL era to achieve this. North Melbourne did it 3 years apart in 1996 and 1999.

  • Richmond has the opportunity to match this feat in 2021.


Back2Back
  • The knock on Geelong was they never went back2back.

  • Plenty of teams have gone B2B in the AFL era- Adelaide, Brisbane, Hawthorn, Richmond. Sydney came very close.

  • There are 16 clubs who have existed for the majority of the AFL era (Exc. GWS and GC who are new). Basically a third of the competition has gone back2back or come extremely close.

  • Geelong achieved something none of those teams did.

  • Geelong was the only team still good enough to win a flag 4 years later with substantially the same group.

  • What Geelong did was rarer, and therefore more impressive.


Geelong vs the AFL system

  • Since the salary cap was introduced in 1987, 11 of the 14 clubs who existed in 1987 have won a flag. (All but St.Kilda who got to the dying seconds twice in a row, Melbourne who lost the 2000 GF and Fitzroy who merged with Brisbane- who won 3). Adelaide (joined 1991) and Port (joined 1997) have also won a flag. From a long term perspective, winning a flag isn’t that impressive.

  • The salary cap and draft are designed to ensure that every team has an opportunity to win. And that’s happened. But teams aren’t meant to stay at the top and keep winning flags over a 5 year period. That’s not how the AFL intends the system to work.

  • Teams generally have a short “premiership window” and then rebuild or restore. However Geelong kept a group together and won another flag, 4 years after their first flag with the same group. Something no one else has done.

  • Geelong beat the AFL system like no one else has.
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During it's dynasty when Clarko and Hawthorn were at their "weakest" beat Geelong, so the cats are not that impressive, no where near as impressive as Hawthorn.

Cameron Ling the captain of your so called impressive team, said Hawthorn were the best in 2014 after they went back to back. Just back to back, nothing else. What would he know I suppose he's part an inferior premiership team... Oh wait. Are you confused? I'm not.
 
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PJays said:
  • Geelong beat the AFL system like no one else has.
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Some would argue Hawthorn beat the AFL system by winning 4 in 8.

Not really.

Essendon very nearly did in 1993, and 1999-2001 what Hawthorn did in 2008 and 2013-2015.

Hawthorn (and Essendon) essentially snatched a flag after some younger players emerged quickly. Like the Dogs did in 2016. The 1993, 2008 and 2016 flags were, in some sense unexpected flags. It's not unusual for this to happen in the AFL, in fact you could argue that snatched flags are a by-product of the AFL's equalisation- having a very even competition makes results like 1993, 2008 and 2016 possible.

Whereas Essendon 1999-2001, Hawthorn 2013-2015 were following the standard process that most flag winning teams take, when they compete for flags with a group who has developed together. Those were groups of players peaking together and competing for flags for an extended period- like Geelong. But unlike Geelong they didn't achieve flag winning greatness 4 years apart with the same group.
 
PJays said:
Geelong- 3 time premiership players

Bartel
Chapman
Corey
Enright
Johnson
Kelly
Ling
Mackie
Ottens
Selwood
Scarlett
Wojinscki


Players who were team regulars or in the selection mix for 5 years but missed one flag due to form or injury

2007 and 2011:
Hunt- 2007 and 2011. ACL injury kept him out in 2009.
Stokes- 2007 and 2011. Missed 2009 prelim due to groin injury. Couldn't get back into side for 2009 GF after Geelong thrashed Collingwood.

Others:
Byrnes- 2007 and 2009. Calf and knee injuries in 2011. Emergency for 2011 GF.
Hawkins- 2009 and 2011. Rookie in 2007; played 9 games.
Milburn- 2007 and 2009. Played 14 games in 2011; emergency for 2011 GF.
Mooney- 2007 and 2009. Injuries in 2011, played 8 games only and retired after 2011.
Varcoe- 2009 and 2011. Played 18 games in 2007. Missed selection for GF.


2 time premiership players with Geelong for the majority of the 5 year period
Ablett- 2007 and 2009. Joined Gold Coast for 2011.
Harley- 2007 and 2009. Retired after 2009.
Rooke- 2007 and 2009. Significant injuries forced him out of the game. Last season 2010.
Taylor- 2009 and 2011. Rookie in 2008. Regular 2008-2011.


Geelong’s continuity
  • 19 players in the selection mix from 2007 to 2011, but 7 only played two flags due to injury or form.
  • 14 players who played in 2007 and 2011 premierships. 2 missed 2009 due to injury, making 12 triple premiership players.
  • The top 8 of the 2011 B&F were all triple premiership players. Enright, Corey, Bartel, Ling, Kelly, Selwood, Scarlett, Johnson.
  • 7 of the top 10 in the 2007 B&F were triple premiership players: Bartel, Ling, Scarlett Corey, Johnson, Ottens, Enright.
  • 6 players were top 10 in both the 2007 and 2011 B&F: Enright, Corey, Bartel, Ling, Johnson, Scarlett.
  • Ottens, Selwood and Kelly are triple premiership players who finished top 10 in one year's B&F or the other. Wojcinski, Mackie and Chapman didn't finish top 10 in either year but played 3 premierships (Chapman was All Australian in 2009 and 2010).
  • 11 of the 12 triple premiership players were All Australians at some point in their careers.

Longevity of Greatness
  • With 19 players in the selection mix for the entire 5 year period, 14 players who played in the bookending 2007 and 2011 flags, and 12 triple premiership players, Geelong had substantial continuity through their team or group for 5 years. They had substantially the same team.

  • Geelong also had substantially the same core- with most of the 12 premiership players being amongst their best players, as shown by the 2007 and 2011 Best and Fairest results.

  • Contrast this to Hawthorn: Only 9 continuing players to 2013 and 6 to 2015. Only 4 of the top 10 in the 2013 B&F and 4 of the top 10 in 2015 were continuing from 2008.

  • Hawthorn joins other clubs who have won flags longer apart but with a substantially different core. Essendon 1993 and 2000 (5 continuing players), Sydney 2005 and 2012.

  • Others had a continuing core and team, and were competing for flags for extended periods but failed to achieve flag-winning greatness 4 years apart. Brisbane, Hawthorn, North Melbourne.

  • Geelong achieved a flag-winning level of greatness with substantially the same team 4 years apart. They are the only team of the AFL era to achieve this. North Melbourne did it 3 years apart in 1996 and 1999.

  • Richmond has the opportunity to match this feat in 2021.


Back2Back
  • The knock on Geelong was they never went back2back.

  • Plenty of teams have gone B2B in the AFL era- Adelaide, Brisbane, Hawthorn, Richmond. Sydney came very close.

  • There are 16 clubs who have existed for the majority of the AFL era (Exc. GWS and GC who are new). Basically a third of the competition has gone back2back or come extremely close.

  • Geelong achieved something none of those teams did.

  • Geelong was the only team still good enough to win a flag 4 years later with substantially the same group.

  • What Geelong did was rarer, and therefore more impressive.


Geelong vs the AFL system

  • Since the salary cap was introduced in 1987, 11 of the 14 clubs who existed in 1987 have won a flag. (All but St.Kilda who got to the dying seconds twice in a row, Melbourne who lost the 2000 GF and Fitzroy who merged with Brisbane- who won 3). Adelaide (joined 1991) and Port (joined 1997) have also won a flag. From a long term perspective, winning a flag isn’t that impressive.

  • The salary cap and draft are designed to ensure that every team has an opportunity to win. And that’s happened. But teams aren’t meant to stay at the top and keep winning flags over a 5 year period. That’s not how the AFL intends the system to work.

  • Teams generally have a short “premiership window” and then rebuild or restore. However Geelong kept a group together and won another flag, 4 years after their first flag with the same group. Something no one else has done.

  • Geelong beat the AFL system like no one else has.
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general mcwordy aren't you... give you ten points for the accuracy of your perception of your favourite club..

rattling a few cages in the hopes that you will gather more fans and more moolah from Gil... good luck dude..
 
Leeda said:
general mcwordy aren't you... give you ten points for the accuracy of your perception of your favourite club..

rattling a few cages in the hopes that you will gather more fans and more moolah from Gil... good luck dude..
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My favourite club hasn't won a flag since a long time before I was born, sadly...

But we're on the up so I'll keep up the hope. Wouldn't wanna be hope...less!
 
PJays said:
My favourite club hasn't won a flag since a long time before I was born, sadly...

But we're on the up so I'll keep up the hope. Wouldn't wanna be hope...less!
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count me in as your current non liability and will travel your path into the success you all would like..
a.b.s.o.l.u.t.e.l.y
 
Fadge said:
Yep, that's my attitude. There are some that would beg to differ and others who believe you might as well finish last than runner-up, but suggest they've never played competitive sport...
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Completely agree, does anybody call Pepsi a bad company because they’re second best!?...Being runner-up is exactly that, the second best performer, certainly not something to be ashamed of.
 
PJays said:
Geelong- 3 time premiership players

Bartel
Chapman
Corey
Enright
Johnson
Kelly
Ling
Mackie
Ottens
Selwood
Scarlett
Wojinscki


Players who were team regulars or in the selection mix for 5 years but missed one flag due to form or injury

2007 and 2011:
Hunt- 2007 and 2011. ACL injury kept him out in 2009.
Stokes- 2007 and 2011. Missed 2009 prelim due to groin injury. Couldn't get back into side for 2009 GF after Geelong thrashed Collingwood.

Others:
Byrnes- 2007 and 2009. Calf and knee injuries in 2011. Emergency for 2011 GF.
Hawkins- 2009 and 2011. Rookie in 2007; played 9 games.
Milburn- 2007 and 2009. Played 14 games in 2011; emergency for 2011 GF.
Mooney- 2007 and 2009. Injuries in 2011, played 8 games only and retired after 2011.
Varcoe- 2009 and 2011. Played 18 games in 2007. Missed selection for GF.


2 time premiership players with Geelong for the majority of the 5 year period
Ablett- 2007 and 2009. Joined Gold Coast for 2011.
Harley- 2007 and 2009. Retired after 2009.
Rooke- 2007 and 2009. Significant injuries forced him out of the game. Last season 2010.
Taylor- 2009 and 2011. Rookie in 2008. Regular 2008-2011.


Geelong’s continuity
  • 19 players in the selection mix from 2007 to 2011, but 7 only played two flags due to injury or form.
  • 14 players who played in 2007 and 2011 premierships. 2 missed 2009 due to injury, making 12 triple premiership players.
  • The top 8 of the 2011 B&F were all triple premiership players. Enright, Corey, Bartel, Ling, Kelly, Selwood, Scarlett, Johnson.
  • 7 of the top 10 in the 2007 B&F were triple premiership players: Bartel, Ling, Scarlett Corey, Johnson, Ottens, Enright.
  • 6 players were top 10 in both the 2007 and 2011 B&F: Enright, Corey, Bartel, Ling, Johnson, Scarlett.
  • Ottens, Selwood and Kelly are triple premiership players who finished top 10 in one year's B&F or the other. Wojcinski, Mackie and Chapman didn't finish top 10 in either year but played 3 premierships (Chapman was All Australian in 2009 and 2010).
  • 11 of the 12 triple premiership players were All Australians at some point in their careers.

Longevity of Greatness
  • With 19 players in the selection mix for the entire 5 year period, 14 players who played in the bookending 2007 and 2011 flags, and 12 triple premiership players, Geelong had substantial continuity through their team or group for 5 years. They had substantially the same team.

  • Geelong also had substantially the same core- with most of the 12 premiership players being amongst their best players, as shown by the 2007 and 2011 Best and Fairest results.

  • Contrast this to Hawthorn: Only 9 continuing players to 2013 and 6 to 2015. Only 4 of the top 10 in the 2013 B&F and 4 of the top 10 in 2015 were continuing from 2008.

  • Hawthorn joins other clubs who have won flags longer apart but with a substantially different core. Essendon 1993 and 2000 (5 continuing players), Sydney 2005 and 2012.

  • Others had a continuing core and team, and were competing for flags for extended periods but failed to achieve flag-winning greatness 4 years apart. Brisbane, Hawthorn, North Melbourne.

  • Geelong achieved a flag-winning level of greatness with substantially the same team 4 years apart. They are the only team of the AFL era to achieve this. North Melbourne did it 3 years apart in 1996 and 1999.

  • Richmond has the opportunity to match this feat in 2021.


Back2Back
  • The knock on Geelong was they never went back2back.

  • Plenty of teams have gone B2B in the AFL era- Adelaide, Brisbane, Hawthorn, Richmond. Sydney came very close.

  • There are 16 clubs who have existed for the majority of the AFL era (Exc. GWS and GC who are new). Basically a third of the competition has gone back2back or come extremely close.

  • Geelong achieved something none of those teams did.

  • Geelong was the only team still good enough to win a flag 4 years later with substantially the same group.

  • What Geelong did was rarer, and therefore more impressive.


Geelong vs the AFL system

  • Since the salary cap was introduced in 1987, 11 of the 14 clubs who existed in 1987 have won a flag. (All but St.Kilda who got to the dying seconds twice in a row, Melbourne who lost the 2000 GF and Fitzroy who merged with Brisbane- who won 3). Adelaide (joined 1991) and Port (joined 1997) have also won a flag. From a long term perspective, winning a flag isn’t that impressive.

  • The salary cap and draft are designed to ensure that every team has an opportunity to win. And that’s happened. But teams aren’t meant to stay at the top and keep winning flags over a 5 year period. That’s not how the AFL intends the system to work.

  • Teams generally have a short “premiership window” and then rebuild or restore. However Geelong kept a group together and won another flag, 4 years after their first flag with the same group. Something no one else has done.

  • Geelong beat the AFL system like no one else has.
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I get the focus on players, but if a club turned over its whole playing list every year while continually winning flags, I'd see that as one dominant era, not many separate ones in a row. Otherwise you ignore the input of the coaching staff & club admin. A team is more than just a collection of individual players - especially Richmond and Hawthorn, who are very much products of their coaches.
 
Hawthorn and (to a much lesser degree) Richmond flogs crying up a storm here really tells the story of who feels left out of this discussion.
The insecurity is palpable.
 
Catsnlakers said:
Completely agree, does anybody call Pepsi a bad company because they’re second best!?...Being runner-up is exactly that, the second best performer, certainly not something to be ashamed of.
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Yep.

Apple. Second in the market for mobile phone sales. What a terrible company.

Lenovo. Second in market share for global laptop sales. Terrible company. Dell third. Even worse. Why even bother being in the $100 billion plus market?
 

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Fadge said:
Yep there's all of 1.

BuddyHawk.

Also the only one bringing sensible, measured and interesting discussion to the thread.

I just ignore the drivel being posted by the other Hawthorn and Richmond supporters.
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I think Brisbane's 3 peat was awesome. I think Richmond right now are awesome.

I think the people saying Geelong are the best because its harder to win every second year are hilarious and deserving of ridicule.

Now, lets do some maths: one and one is.... ?
 
Fadge said:
Yep there's all of 1.

BuddyHawk.

Also the only one bringing sensible, measured and interesting discussion to the thread.

I just ignore the drivel being posted by the other Hawthorn and Richmond supporters.
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And RichleMonde, and maybe one or two others

But you're right. For the most part, this thread would've been much better if the Hawthorn & Richmond fans had left their one-eyed gibberish out of it.

With sincere apologies to the aforementioned, and anybody other fair minded contributor I failed to mention.
 
PJays said:
And RichleMonde, and maybe one or two others

But you're right. For the most part, this thread would've been much better if the Hawthorn & Richmond fans had left their one-eyed gibberish out of it.

With sincere apologies to the aforementioned, and anybody other fair minded contributor I failed to mention.
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LMAO!

Calling others one-eyed. The height of irony.
 
Fadge said:
Yep there's all of 1.

BuddyHawk.

Also the only one bringing sensible, measured and interesting discussion to the thread.

I just ignore the drivel being posted by the other Hawthorn and Richmond supporters.
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Oi! I have hardly mentioned Richmond, and have made dozens of posts arguing for Geelong as the greatest team, and Hawthorn as the best dynasty (by my defo). Think most other Richmond fans have been pretty measured on here haven't they?
 
Fadge said:
Roby logic.

I've never seen anyone with 237 posts in a thread and yet contribute so little.
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If this thread was an actual game of footy, Roby would be suspended for 12 months for bringing the game into disrepute.

No need for the Match Review Officer. This would be an automatic suspension, with any future offences resulting in player deregistration.
 
I'm not sure why the pissfight is between Richmond, Hawks and Cats because for me, the Lions win this.

Three-peat: Check

Longevity with 4 GFs made in a row.

Won all 3 flags away from home against a Victorian side which many feel is a big achievement.

Great side on paper with the names and accolades (for those that need the side to look good on paper).
 
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