Preview Changes & Pre-match Discussion - Round 12 vs. Adelaide, AO Sat 05/06 @ 4:35pm

[gouki88]

Look, i think we need to find out about a few guys on the list. Some decisions need to be made at the end of the year about a few guys that have been around for a while but haven't broken through.

With Grundy out, Max Lynch should get a crack. If he can't come in with Grundy out, and Mason Cox under an injury cloud, then he is a certainty for delisting, and I have no idea why we even bothered to keep him on last year.

If not Lynch, then I'd be thrown Kelly into full back to play up against Thilthorpe. This is a first year kid, and Kelly is into his 3rd year. Irrespective of how good Thilthorpe is, we need to get some games into Kelly this year. Roughead is over 30 and we need to start future-proofing.

If Kelly played, that would allow Roughead to play more as a ruck. He is a premiership ruckman afterall!

I actually reckon we looked ok last week when Grundy went down. It created unpredictability. Grundy is good at winning hitouts, but he is very predictable where he hits. So it could cause a bit of chaos using an alternate option for a few games.

I think Lynch is injured too....

 

[Capital Magpie]

I'm assuming you're taking the pi55.

Our list is in very ordinary shape right now.

Our only option is to smash the next 3-4 drafts and rebuild.

Not taking the pi55 at all. Our team in the late 90s included rolled gold hacks such as Jason Wild, Trent Hodden, Brad Rowe, Kent Butcher, Stephen Ryan, Nick Hider, Chad Liddell, Stephen Pitt.....need I go on? To a man they were suburban footballers at best. The current team would beat them by 10 goals or I'm no judge at all.

 

[Capital Magpie]

Great news that Billy is available, fingers crossed he can hit the ground running

Ive noticed Billy Elliott invatiably has a quiet game first game bsck after a break, sadly.

 

[magpies42]

True but not true in this instance.

I don’t think Cal is best 22 but with Elliott and McCreery out he’s bound to get a game.

If those two are fit I think he’s every chance to drop out this week.

You are correct on Madgen and Wilson though. I’d prefer Macrae or Rantall come in as underdone kids this week. Madgen is not up to it and Wilson looks like an underdone kid himself, even though he’s 23. He’s had a taste and now needs to go back and work on some deficiencies before he gets another look.


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Wilson I fear will never have it, he isn’t a footballer. He doesn’t attack the ball with intent and rigour and is not that special skills wise that you can forgive his laconic approach. Madgen is the same, also a basket baller incidentally.

 

[magpies42]

A player is what ? not judged on possesions and winning the ball is optional. well blow me down with a feather , we should select 22 of those players, total match possessions for the team would be off the charts, oh he plugs no holes.

Yep. Shouldn’t be a revelation. It’s the same in all sports.

 

[legendstatus]

id say there’s 0 chance we can get both in the draft

I reckon there’s at least 1%?


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[Ulahoopski]

I am confused,
If the player that kicks in and plays on after a behind or rushed behind.
And then kicks the ball.
Is that added as a + gain ?

Any disposal that ends up closer to goal is a gain. Likewise, any disposal that goes backwards is subtracted from the metres gained.

 

[Ulahoopski]

You could be right, I'm not sure, I thought it was from when the ball is disposed

It's explained in the link.

 

[Harry O]

Wilson I fear will never have it, he isn’t a footballer. He doesn’t attack the ball with intent and rigour and is not that special skills wise that you can forgive his laconic approach. Madgen is the same, also a basket baller incidentally.

Biggest issue for Wilson is his kicking. In the current game and in his role you can’t afford to be such a poor kick

 

[The Plowking]

Out: dunno
In:. dunno

 

[The Plowking]

Not taking the pi55 at all. Our team in the late 90s included rolled gold hacks such as Jason Wild, Trent Hodden, Brad Rowe, Kent Butcher, Stephen Ryan, Nick Hider, Chad Liddell, Stephen Pitt.....need I go on? To a man they were suburban footballers at best. The current team would beat them by 10 goals or I'm no judge at all.

Brad Rowe was a solid player.
Kent Butcher a great unfulfilled talent due to perpetual injury.
The others...meh.

 

[The Plowking]

So we tried magden back didn’t work tried him as a winger didn’t work now as a foward absolutely did nothing so why he is still there

He was decent last year as a back.
This year...not so much

 

[The Plowking]

Maynard to the middle with degoey at centre bounces.
Cox Rucking.

I mean, why not !?

 

[jackcass]

I did, I just have no faith in our team to be honest

So you go from doubt to believing they're lying... noice.

No wonder the club says so little.

 

[gouki88]

So you go from doubt to believing they're lying... noice.

No wonder the club says so little.

Maybe it's the malpractice for years that makes me dubious

 

[LuckyLee]

OUT Grundy C.Brown
IN Keane Macrae

Cameron and Roughead to cover ruck duties.

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[jackcass]

The distance a kick travels is also included in meters gained, but it doesn't account for back and sideways kicks, it's all mtrs gained

Don't think so. I think it's only meters moved goal to goal as far as I'm aware. A 40m kick sideways that creeps forward would be +5m for instance.

 

[jackcass]

This is a MAJOR reason why Adams can’t be captain imo. I understand you want to help the team as much as possible. However, you’re setting a HORRIBLE precedent.

See, people start calling everything that the clubs says lies and this is where it ends up, people just make stupid statements like this. Sad really.

 

[jackcass]

I am confused,
If the player that kicks in and plays on after a behind or rushed behind.
And then kicks the ball.
Is that added as a + gain ?

Yep, run and carry counts.

 

[Chrispiesssss]

See, people start calling everything that the clubs says lies and this is where it ends up, people just make stupid statements like this. Sad really.

So you don’t think he was rushed back and reinjured himself?

 

[magpies42]

Biggest issue for Wilson is his kicking. In the current game and in his role you can’t afford to be such a poor kick

If his kick is poor, he isn’t quick or a genuine tall and he doesn’t attack the ball then what’s the upside at 23?

 

[jackcass]

Biggest issue for Wilson is his kicking. In the current game and in his role you can’t afford to be such a poor kick

He's a beautiful kick on both sides. Just hasn't translated to senior footy yet.

 

[Dirty Bird]

I have a source who I trust as I know who his source would be, is saying the game is going to be in Sydney. All but confirmed.

 

[GreekLunatic]

I bet Thomas is a straight and if potato magden is in I’ll spew

 

[jackcass]

So you don’t think he was rushed back and reinjured himself?

I think he passed the medical test and was declared fit to play. Got a knock in the 1st quarter, sustained a fresh injury, came off, had it assessed, returned and played out the game. Pulled up sore when he cooled down which isn't uncommon. Went and had scans which showed a fresh minor tear in a different location to the previous tear. Did the previous tear make that more likely? I don't know. Just bad luck.