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  1. eddiesmith

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    So you think Agar is a better spinner than Zampa? Lol
     

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    Agar to be fair had a great BBL season last year with the ball
     
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    Zampa averages 18 with an er of 6 in T20is, Agar ain’t in his league
     
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    no but he can contribute with the bat where Zampa is basically a walking wicket at the top level.

    different roles, Agar just provides a much better all round option than say, Stonis. Our quicks seem to get taken to quite regularly. He plays as 2nd spinner.

    Zampa obviously plays as no.1 spinner i'm just saying i'm not totally sold on him.
     
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    As a second spinner he'll do fine. I'd rather play Agar than a Tye or NCN.
     
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    Zampa averages 11, Agar 13 with the bat...

    I’ve never understood how anyone can look at Zampa record and say I’m not convinced, he is Australia’s no1 T20 spinner by a mile and half the reason they keep losing is they can’t stay consistent and keep dropping him!
     
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    I’d rather keep Maxwell as the second spinner and pick a batsman instead of Agar

    3 quicks, Maxwell, Zampa and Stoinis/Marsh is the best attack
     
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    Kohli has similarities to Tendulkar too technique wise and the fact he can score hundreds on the fast bouncy test pitches here when many other Indian batsmen don't have the technique or mental strength to cope. He's a different character to Tendulkar though being more arrogant, mouthy and in your face although he has toned that down from when he first started playing here. Even when he was a mouthy flog in his younger days I didn't mind him as at least he could back it up with the bat and he's a fierce competitor which you can't help but respect.
     
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    I'd rather have 2 spinner plus Maxwell personally. teams with more than 1 spinner are more successful. I'd like a leg spinners as the 2nd spinner but that probably isn't realistic.
     
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    His actual batsmanship is very Tendulkar like but he also seems to make more meaningful runs
     
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    our 3rd quick has made a habit recently of getting slogged, which is why 2 spinners makes more sense.
     

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    Tendulkar made plenty of meaningful runs too and plenty of runs in general but I get your point, Tendulkar was more of a relentless run making machine whereas Kohli is more the type of batsman who will rise to the occasion with a big score when it matters.
     
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    If we picked zampa and Agar, Finch would probably just bowl Maxwell less. It's been 10 years and international approach to t20
    Cricket hasn't changed.
     
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    Tendulkar has faced bowlers that will go down in history as some of the worlds greatest legends.

    Kohli may end his career without arguably facing any "legends" of the game.
     
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    You don’t rate Tye?
     
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    Short 18 matches, average of 32, hs 76, 4 50s
    Lynn 18 matches, average of 19, hs 44, 0 50s

    Yet Short has to go and Lynn needs more of a go? Right...
     
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    Dunno about that. SA’s pace battery that Kohli has faced and succeeded against is as good as any attack Tendulkar faced. Perhaps overall the sheer length of Tendulkar’s career is going to mean that he’s faced more ‘good’ bowlers but there’s not much wrong with what Kohli’s battled.
     
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    Yeah exactly. It wasn’t meant to denigrate Tendulkar, he didn’t go missing when things were tough or anything like that but even within his own team he was arguably the third best at actually producing the goods when it was needed most - behind Dravid and Laxman
     
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    I’m far from sold on Lynn. He’s another one of these blokes that think 20-25 is enough when it’s not.
     
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    Great post! Tendulkar's meaningful contributions get lost in the volume of innings. In the 90's he more or less carried the side.
     
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    About as much as they rate Marsh.
     
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    I think he had a lot more support than, say, Kumble did in the 90s.

    Dravid scored nearly 3000 runs at 50, Ganguly scored about 2600, also at around 50, Azharuddin scored over 4000 at 45, Sidhu scored 2600 at 41, even Vinod Kambli shone briefly, averaging 54 over his 17 tests.

    Undoubtedly he played numerous great knocks and often in difficult circumstances but often the ones where he didn’t have a lot of help came to naught.
     
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    Kohli is the most complete batsmen since Tendulkar and Lara. I'd argue he is greater than punter was at his peak. An absolute freak. If he has a long career he will smash records left right and centre imo. I can see him dominating us this summer and dragging the rest of the team with him
     
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    You also need to consider Lynn can't throw and can't dive so he is an absolute liability in the field. How he still has a stuffed shoulder 2 years later is beyond me.

    I think we need to stick with both of them TBH because its not like we have alot of guys sitting around who are better.
     
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    Laxman only produced against us really. Dravid was the anchor they built alot of their early 00's around.

    Tendulkar unfortunately stayed on too long makes his record look alot worse than it is. trim the last 25-30 tests out and he looks alot better
     
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