VFL 2022 VFL R4 v GWS (Sat 16-Apr 2.05pm @ AIA Centre, Olympic Park) [Stream: AFL app & https://www.afl.com.au/vfl/matches/4189]

[dinderman]

Not if he doesn’t transform into a really strong, penetrating kick. No too-tier team can have poor kicks on the HBF. Turnovers exiting defence are disastrous.

Hence the developing part, happy to see how it plays out, god knows we need a few to come from the rafters or the next window will be the start of the next rebuild.

 

[ksardog]

Eight kicks and EIGHTEEN handballs???
Would be tempted to conclude that he’s not a very good kick….and knows it.


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we only need Adams to get the hint now

 

[ksardog]

I loved Schazz but once the speed was gone (not his fault) he wasn't going to play any other position, cruelled by fate, not by coach.

never saw the hype in him from day dot, always looked a yard slow and that height where he couldn’t play key back. Played very safe football, not attacking at all. Created zero rebound

 

[dinderman]

never saw the hype in him from day dot, always looked a yard slow and that height where he couldn’t play key back. Played very safe football, not attacking at all. Created zero rebound

Choko Williams said he was the best prospect he'd seen since Wayne Carey (no pressure) so he must have ripped it up as a kid.

 

[Finnishpie]

I loved Schazz but once the speed was gone (not his fault) he wasn't going to play any other position, cruelled by fate, not by coach.

Maybe, but we’ll never be sure because he was only ever played in one position.

 

[Finnishpie]

Choko Williams said he was the best prospect he'd seen since Wayne Carey (no pressure) so he must have ripped it up as a kid.

Everyone had him as a gun.

 

[jonbe54]

Everyone had him as a gun.

I think for some posters it's satisfying to take pot shots at highly touted players who didn't make it - even if they were plagued by injuries.

 

[35Daicos]

I think for some posters it's satisfying to take pot shots at highly touted players who didn't make it - even if they were plagued by injuries.

I remember having a keen Glenelg supporter (I live in that area) say to me how well we had done when we drafted him. He (and I) knew how highly he was regarded at the time, and it appeared we had a future superstar on our books. We were desperately unlucky with what happened with Matt Scharenberg, as he could have been a great player for us for a decade or so.

 

[Harry O]

Shaz would have been a premiership player in 2018 if he didn’t do his acl late in season

 

[dinderman]

Maybe, but we’ll never be sure because he was only ever played in one position.

Well we can't be sure the sun will rise tomorrow either but that's what the smart money is on.

 

[sr36]

never saw the hype in him from day dot, always looked a yard slow and that height where he couldn’t play key back. Played very safe football, not attacking at all. Created zero rebound

I was the same - just no intent with or without the ball. Started to slowly warm to him in 2018, when he played as a tall and was reading the ball flight exceptionally, but then he got injured again.

 

[Bianconeri]

I think for some posters it's satisfying to take pot shots at highly touted players who didn't make it - even if they were plagued by injuries.

But rich of you to talk about pot shots

 

[The Royal Sampler]

Shaz would have been a premiership player in 2018 if he didn’t do his acl late in season

We lost that game to Richmond, yeah?

I’m not sure we were the team we would become yet, and equally unsure that we would have done so with Scharenberg in the side.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Shaz would have been a premiership player in 2018 if he didn’t do his acl late in season

He wouldn’t have come close to being picked if Reid Moore and Dunn were also available for selection. Goldsack only just made it back into the team after a year long ACL and was underdone, and Treloar was also half fit after recovering from a double hammy.

There are lots of things that could have got Collingwood over the line in 2018 including an umpiring decision….Shaz is well down that list.

 

[jonbe54]

We lost that game to Richmond, yeah?

I’m not sure we were the team we would become yet, and equally unsure that we would have done so with Scharenberg in the side.

Completely agree regarding Shazza but the attitude of some here claiming he never was any good reeks of keyboard warriors.

A number of very good football judges rated him through the roof.

 

[Finnishpie]

Well we can't be sure the sun will rise tomorrow either but that's what the smart money is on.

The smart money was on Mayne‘s career being over a year into his tenure at the pies.

 

[Finnishpie]

He wouldn’t have come close to being picked if Reid Moore and Dunn were also available for selection. Goldsack only just made it back into the team after a year long ACL and was underdone, and Treloar was also half fit after recovering from a double hammy.

There are lots of things that could have got Collingwood over the line in 2018 including an umpiring decision….Shaz is well down that list.

Wells did that medial too didn’t he? Had he been fit….

 

[Finnishpie]

I remember having a keen Glenelg supporter (I live in that area) say to me how well we had done when we drafted him. He (and I) knew how highly he was regarded at the time, and it appeared we had a future superstar on our books. We were desperately unlucky with what happened with Matt Scharenberg, as he could have been a great player for us for a decade or so.

Sharenberg also the other young bloke who did That never ending hammy. Two top 10 picks who should be dominating right now.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Wells did that medial too didn’t he? Had he been fit….

True but the club knew he was high risk high reward although from memory Wells injury was from an unlucky contact incident rather than chronic repeat injuries

 

[The Royal Sampler]

Sharenberg also the other young bloke who did That never ending hammy. Two top 10 picks who should be dominating right now.

Freeman. Maybe, but I never rated him even at drafting.

 

[Finnishpie]

Freeman. Maybe, but I never rated him even at drafting.

Yeah, his kicking was always a bit dodgy. But he racked them up. A real Treloar type.

 

[The Royal Sampler]

Yeah, his kicking was always a bit dodgy. But he racked them up. A real Treloar type.

His kicking was mediocre, his vision was non-existent. Ran himself into trouble.

 

[Finnishpie]

True but the club knew he was high risk high reward although from memory Wells injury was from an unlucky contact incident rather than chronic repeat injuries

Yeah, and I think he was dominating that game -- or the one just before. 3 goals, lots of disposals, best kick our team had seen since Leon Davis.

 

[Finnishpie]

His kicking was mediocre, his vision was non-existent. Ran himself into trouble.

A real Treloar type! Lol.

 

[Jen2310]

Back on topic? lol